Cricket, diving and NZ - how long to fit it all in?

Apr 17th, 2013, 07:16 PM
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Not your imagination. The mining boom has made hotels in Perth hideously expensive. Adding the increase in prices for a cricket invasion might put those prices right out to door and make Brissie more attractive.

Best test - Perth or Brisbane? I've not been to either.
The Perth test, in the middle of the series, may have more atmosphere than the Brisbane test, right at the start of the series - I don't really know.

The best tests are out of your travel period - Boxing Day in Melbourne, and Jane McGrath day in Sydney.

I should catch you in Sydney on your latest itinerary - at present I'm hoping to fly out 14/15 December.

Also consider a few days R&R around Margaret River after Perth. It may be your last chance to see the sun for a while!
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Apr 18th, 2013, 12:39 AM
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thanks, Margo. I'm tempted to book somewhere in Perth on a "free cancellation" basis for the relevant dates, just to have somewhere "in the bank".

From a cricket point of view Brisbane looks least attractive - traditionally England teams have started slowly and I reckon that we are likely to lose that one - and irrationally I think that if we are there, we're BOUND to lose it. That opening ball from Steve Harmison still haunts me, even though it is now 2 series ago.

I've passed the conundrum over to DH at the moment - I'm too busy at work to give it my full attention and as we're sharing the trip 50/50 i reckon we should bear the responsibility of planning it 50/50 too. [or 30/70 anyway].

nice to hear that you might be around when we're in Sydney - sorry to say that the itinerary may not stay like it is though. watch this space.
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Apr 18th, 2013, 04:44 AM
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Yep, definitely not your imagination. Perth accommodation (and everything else) is incredibly expensive even at quiet times, so I can only imagine what it'd be like during a big event. Book as early as you can and don't expect many options with free cancellation.
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Apr 22nd, 2013, 12:09 AM
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looking for ashes, england is in a mood
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Apr 22nd, 2013, 04:27 AM
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Hi hassel,

that's a bit "gnomic"; care to elucidate?
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Apr 28th, 2013, 12:28 PM
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Anne, I'd like to throw a curve ball -or at least a leg break into your plans.

Your seem to omit Melbourne. That is like visiting Italy and omitting Rome!

OK. Serious now. You should visit Melbourne and we would be delighted to accomodate you.

Google South Melbourne, corner of coventry and Montague Streets. That is where you might be staying. About 20 minutes walk from down town.

I'm not sure how this fits in with your NZ trips, but do consider it.

[email protected] will find us.
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Apr 28th, 2013, 12:33 PM
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And Australia will CRUCIFY England in the Ashes series.


Sorry, but that's how it goes.
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Apr 28th, 2013, 12:41 PM
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Peter - in your dreams!

such a generous offer - you aussies are such nice people.

Melbourne has not been in our plans up to now, [we planning to be home by the time the Melbourne test starts on 26th Dec] but I'll certainly give it some further thought!

DD went there on HER travels - she liked it a lot apart from the weather, which was far too much like home.
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May 18th, 2013, 03:53 PM
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Melbourne is interesting - but note that Peter is now hanging about in Venice for a bit!

I'm now flying out to torment the Germans, terrorize the Scots and say g'day to London, on 8th December. Home in time for the Sydney test.

How are your plans progressing?
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May 19th, 2013, 08:31 AM
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hi margo,

plans got put on hold for a while 'cos life intervened, but we're trying to finalise things at the moment.

how long are you going to be spending in europe? [you do know that it'll be cold and wet then, don't you? that's why we're going to the antipodes!]
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May 22nd, 2013, 01:09 PM
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Yes - I do know it'll be cold and wet - and I don't have any suitable clothes! Can you suggest a department store in Frankfurt that will sell me a cheap but suitable warm coat, for which I will have no further need after this trip - unless I'm silly enough to go again!

I'm still concerned about how the mangoes ripen!

I'm back in time for the Sydney test.
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Jul 27th, 2013, 06:16 AM
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And Australia will CRUCIFY England in the Ashes series.>>

mmmm - care to revise that statement, Peter?

anyway, I've come back here in order to report that we now have tickets for the 2nd and 3rd Days of the Brisbane test. Hurray. We were umming and erring about which days if any to book for ages, and while we vacillated the opening day for public booking - 17th July - came and went, so Day 1 was already sold out by the time we made our decision.

not sure about Day 4 - we're going to think about that a bit more, and there appear to be lots of tickets available for that day. [if it takes us that long to beat you!]

right then - now to try to nail down NZ.
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Jul 28th, 2013, 03:51 PM
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<<<< "And Australia will CRUCIFY England in the Ashes series.">>>>>

You'll have to excuse me, and you might recognise me in my garb of sack cloth and ashes (which sadly look like being retained by England).

I'm just ducking out for a piece of humble pie, with a side serve of humiliation.

I think that day three of a test match can be great - by then, the match has some sort of shape to it, maybe there's a run chase starting to happen, the pitch might be breaking up a bit, the choice of playing for a win or a draw may be becoming evident.

Ann, I do hope that you get to see a good match.
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Jul 29th, 2013, 05:05 AM
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Peter - how gracious. pity your team's captain couldn't manage something similar in his recent interview, where he said that they are expecting to win the next three matches and to take the series!

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What you and i think constitutes a good match may be two different things of course!
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Aug 5th, 2013, 03:48 PM
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Please make that a double serve of humble pie.

Pride goeth before a fall - where's that damn parachute.

Congratulations to England for retaining the ashes. Now for Summer in Aus ...
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Aug 6th, 2013, 07:24 AM
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Nicely said, Peter.

I think that it can be said that your team acquitted itself rather better in this last match, and had it not been for the rain, it could have been a close run thing. [where's Monty when you need him?]

but overall, your batsmen have not been up to scratch, with just one making over 100 as against our 4. your bowling has been better than expected [or is that how they appear against our rather fragile batsmen?] and Clark's decision not to bowl Siddell when England was trying to avoid the follow-on was extraordinary.

shame that the Ashes had to be retained with such an anti-climax but we've still got two more matches to re-enforce our supremacy - roll on the summer indeed!
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Hi Annhig--dropping in from the Europe forum. I just don't know enough about driving times to be much use to you. Part of me agrees with anyone who said to concentrate your efforts on Australia itself.

All I can do is share what we did in the 15 days we had in NZ.

Our itinerary when we went to NZ was based mostly on cycle times with van shuttles.
--We landed in Auckland, spent the day exploring the city, and flew out to Christchuch the next morning.
--We spent day exploring Christchurch.
--We left the next day to take the TranzAlpine rail to Moana, and we then cycled out to Rapahoe and shuttled down to Punakaiki.
--From Punakaiki, we cycled down Route 6 to Hokitika where we stayed the night.
--We then cycled from Hokitika to the Franz Joseph Glacier Valley. We would like to have taken a helicopter ride from there, but we were fogged in.
--Next, we cycled over the Fox Hills to Wilderness Lodge Lake Moeraki, where we spent two fascinating nights. Lots of glow worms in the trees and rock niches by the side of the road; total darkness at night for fabulous star gazing.
--We cycled over the Haast Pass to Lake Wanaka area, which all of us loved, and we took advantage of seeing area wineries.
--From there, we booked a plane to take us down to Milford Sound for the day. Superb.
--We then cycled just a bit more in the area and shuttled to Queenstown, where my daughter got to bungee (it's actually bungy there) at the original first commercial bungee site, Kawarau Gorge.

Others in a party went on to zipline and canyon swing the in following days. We, however, flew back to Auckland, rented a car, and headed up to Bay of Islands for a couple of days of R&R. I had booked golf dates for my husband around there, and I spent my time chilling out looking at birds.

We booked a helicopter while we were up there to check out all the islands.

If I went back, I'd stay a minimum of three weeks in NZ with the supposition that I still would not see enough. I find driving times there to be akin to driving in Ireland--it takes longer than you think.

I'm sorry I cannot be of any more help! Good luck with travel planning.
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Aug 25th, 2013, 05:38 AM
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AZ - that's really helpful, thank you, albeit you were doing it on 2 wheels and we will [mostly] have 4.

you may be right about it being better to concentrate on Oz, but DH has always wanted to see NZ so it seemed obvious to combine the two, though i appreciate that we may well be falling within 2 stools.

we have 17 nights in NZ overall and i suspect that if we had 27 or even 37 we would still be saying it's not long enough. but we have decided to concentrate on the SI and only spend 3 nights on NI before getting the ferry over.

ideally I'd have liked to go to the Bay of Islands but it's in completely the wrong direction of course and we'd like to see something of the rest of NI while we're there so the plan is to go south, but whether straight south towards Taupo, or south-east towards the coast and Napier, has yet to be decided.

that's the trouble - if I were doing this for someone else, I'm sure that I would be able to look at it and see immediately what we ought to do. trying to work it out for myself, I'm like a rabbit in headlights, not knowing which way to jump!
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Aug 25th, 2013, 06:09 AM
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I agree to head to the South Islands. I'm sure people will be upset when I say that we did not need much time in Auckland. We enjoyed it, we walked forever, we did museums, you name it, but with so many astounding sights to see in NZ, our short time there was about right.

The Bay of Islands served our purposes beautifully--R&R, golf, my birdwatching, plus I am a Captain Cook history fanatic--but if you have been to Pacific Islands, that "feel" is the same. The South Island is something ENTIRELY different. The best way I've tried to explain it to others is that it is like combining the scenery of Ireland, Switzerland, the Pacific Northwest, and Norway, and then putting the combination on steroids.

What we did in NZ that we never do in other locations was make use of helicopters and planes. For example, it is so possible to drive to and descend into the Grand Canyon that I could not fathom hiring a scenic plane or helicopter there.

However, in NZ, so many of the truly outstanding sights are far away and almost inaccessible. Planes and helicopter usage, no matter how expensive, makes sense.

I cannot believe that weather conditions almost made us miss Milford Sound. And I can't believe that for one millisecond, I was thinking of my pocketbook and almost missed doing it.

I wish you dryer weather than what we had. Australia suffered terrible flooding the January we were there, and the West Coast of South Island received much of the same. My fingers were permanently pruned on the bike (and I STILL loved our trip). The rain was so bad that during part of our Franz Josef stay, about eight of us played hooky and said, "Nope, we're going to hang at the hotel and play boardgames." Our hotel was really nice--perfectly suited for a group with a huge living area--so it was not a hardship.

The rain did lead to excitement for me. The guides dropped us in town for a bit because of the downpour, and bird watcher that I am, I headed straight for the West Coast Wildlife Centre. There is a darkened exhibit, and your eyes have to adjust to see the Rowi and Haast tokoeka kiwi. You of course do not touch, but a little kiwi poked his bill through the fencing and touched ME! I kept pointing to my knee afterwards and saying to our traveling groups--"Kissed by a kiwi here. Kissed by a kiwi here."
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Aug 25th, 2013, 06:17 AM
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AZ - thanks for re-enforcing what we've heard so far about SI; everyone has said that we are right to prioritise it. We definitely have Milford sound on our agenda, and a helicopter trip onto the glaciers, weather permitting. hopefully December will bring good weather - otherwise we too will be in the hotel playing monopoly.

BTW, where did you stay in Franz Joseph? i having difficulty finding the right place to stay there.

we are hoping to go to the West coast wild-life centre to see the kiwis - they do nocturnal visits that look interesting. Though we like birds, I can't promise to get THAT excited about one though!
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