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Guenmai Aug 20th, 2008 09:18 AM

United charging for meals
 
Check out the European forum where there's talk of United starting to charge, Oct 01, for meals in Economy class depending on the number of hours of the flight. I know many of you go to Europe, too.
What next, pay toilets? I guess we'd better start saving up our quarters. LOL. Happy Travels!

rhkkmk Aug 20th, 2008 09:36 AM

you must have this wrong....they must be paying you to eat those meals...

november_moon Aug 20th, 2008 10:00 AM

I'm actually not too unhappy about this change - those meals are generally only partially edible anyway. I usually bring something to subsist on anyway in case the inflight meal isn't at all edible.

I wouldn't mind paying $5 or whatever it is for a snack box, which have pretty reasonably things in them.

Guenmai Aug 20th, 2008 10:25 AM

I've flown with United for decades and I want my hot, vegan meal no matter how bad it tastes.
The only snackbox that I buy on United is the one with the small can of tuna, hummus, Stacey's pita chips. I don't eat the cheese or the chocolate as those are two fatal food allergies for me. I will bend and eat fish...just no meat/poultry... for 32 years. I would not want to live off of snack boxes on a little less than 12-hour flight.
I don't want to have to hassle with packing food. Plus, my peanut butter was taken by TSA on an LAX-Bangkok flight. I used to always take peanut butter on European flights,too. Now, to get it through TSA, I have to remember to pack it in little, 1-ounce, glass jars and hope they'll let it in. TSA is not consistent. Happy Travels!

Jaya Aug 20th, 2008 10:40 AM

Vegans don't eat tuna - sorry.

Jen Aug 20th, 2008 10:42 AM

As far as I've heard, they're only testing this starting October 1 on the IAD-LHR route. Domestically, I'm not sure what the deal is...

Bella_Bluebell Aug 20th, 2008 10:50 AM

On many flights now out of london to europe, you have the choice of whether to pay for meals. If you opt not to pay for meals, you pay less. Food is available to purchase on the flight, if you want it. For us it is a much better choice given I would rarely eat an airline meal - the quality is so poor generally.

Guenmai Aug 20th, 2008 11:38 AM

Jaya..I'm quite aware that vegans don't eat fish. However, I never stated that I was a vegan. I stated that I wanted a vegan meal! As I'm allergic to dairy and a couple other items, that rules out a vegetarian meal which has dairy in it. And since I don't eat meat/poultry, then that rules out a regular meal.
In the 80s, I was macrobiotic for years which can include fish. So, when I got off a macro balance, I just kept the fish in along with non-dairy food choices (vegan). I eat what's best for me and my food system has worked quite well for over 3 decades. Happy Travels!

laurieco Aug 20th, 2008 03:01 PM

Guen, as you said, pay toilets next. After that, the airlines will probably charge for the air we breathe. This has gotten ridiculous. I understand that fuel has gotten expensive but what was the airlines' excuse when oil was $30 a barrel? They've been losing money for years and it wasn't due to the price of oil. Maybe they should look at their (poor) management.

Guenmai Aug 20th, 2008 04:23 PM

I agree Laurieco...I guess we'll soon have to bring our own air if we don't want to pay for that. And they wonder why folks dread flying? It's pretty pathetic to say the least. Happy Travels!

Craig Aug 20th, 2008 04:29 PM

Well, guys it's really about trying to keep prices artificially low for leisure travelers especially. If they would have just charged for the actual cost of service rather than just tried to fill seats all of these years, there wouldn't be so much sticker shock which they all seem to be trying to avoid by tacking on all of these moronic fees. I am waiting to see when a fee will be charged for overweight passengers rather than overweight luggage by the way (sorry Bob).

Jaya Aug 20th, 2008 04:47 PM

Guenmai,
Your second reply clarified the reason for vegan and makes sense. Sorry for getting sassy - I thought you were another one of those "I'm vegetarian/vegan, but I'll eat chicken, sushi, etc."

althom1122 Aug 20th, 2008 05:09 PM

I'm probably in a minority, but here's a different perspective: just because we've been accustomed to not paying for all the extras airlines used to offer, doesn't mean it's an outrage that they're now asking us to pay. People who buy tickets to a baseball game, don't expect free hotdogs, nachos, and drinks. And baseball tickets aren't cheap! Yet we do expect it of airlines, not because it's "right" or "decent" of them, but because it's been customary. The cost of oil HAS gone up dramatically - and it's obviously a major expense for airlines. I for one am glad that they're trying to keep ticket prices low rather than continue to offer extras "free of charge" to everyone, whether they want them or not. If I don't eat a meal or use a blanket, why should I have to share the cost with those who do?

degas Aug 21st, 2008 12:46 AM

I eat it all, and it shows!

Yikes, let's hope this doesn't cross to the Pacific routes. NW charged me $5 for a beer on a recent flight.

Craig Aug 21st, 2008 06:54 AM

According to today's Wall Street Journal, the following applies to certain domestic and international flights, including flights to Europe:

1. In October, snack prices will increase to $6 for shelf-stable items and $9 for fresh items.

2. On 3-class aircraft, business class passengers will continue to receive complimentary beverages but will pay for snack items.

Also, effective September 2nd, United will no longer provide free pretzels or cookies on flights of 2 to 3 hours but will expand the selection of snacks for purchase.

Guenmai Aug 21st, 2008 07:03 AM

People who buy tickets to a baseball game aren't at the baseball game for right under 12 hours. People need to have food on long flights.

And I find it interesting how whenever things are getting cut...due to whatever they claim...that it usually hits economy class folks the hardest.

First class folks are still eating...and were after meal service was suspended on shorter flights for other classes. I guess we can just ask the First Class folks to throw us their scraps. Happy Travels!

Guenmai Aug 21st, 2008 07:07 AM

Laurieco...As far as what the airlines' excuse was when oil was $30. a barrel...well it just sounds like years of mismanagement to me, but now it can all be blamed on fuel increases. Happy Travels!

DonTopaz Aug 21st, 2008 07:50 AM

The answer doesn't seem all that complicated to me: don't fly United, unless you believe that the perks you get for being a FF (for those who have status) outweigh the ever-increasing contempt that United displays toward its customers.

Guenmai Aug 21st, 2008 08:30 AM

Rizzuto...It's not only a United problem. It's an airline problem. Happy Travels!

althom1122 Aug 21st, 2008 11:04 AM

Guenamai - when we buy an airline ticket, we're paying for transportation - just as when we buy a baseball ticket, we're paying for a baseball game. I'm fine with them serving meals on flights (whatever the length of the flight - and yes, they should serve food on long flights), but why should those who DON'T eat the meals have to pay the same as those who DO? If I don't eat, I'm subsidizing those who do - and I'd prefer not to do that. Usually, I DO eat, by the way - and I'll gladly pay for it if I want it. My point is I'd rather they price the tickets separately from the meals. I'm less interested in an "all-inclusive flight" than the cheapest ticket possible. Personal preference. It's just my preference - I think it's more fair.
As for the mismanagement and all that... no argument from me there!


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