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virginiafish Nov 29th, 2012 01:04 PM

Trip report-Thailand and Singapore, Part I
 
First of all, I want to thank all my Fodorite buddies, without whom I could not have planned this trip and have it go so smoothly! Your information, encouragement and patience were superb. We met Bob and Karen in Bangkok and that was a pleasure.

Let me post our itinerary here and flesh out the details when we are more awake, as we just returned yesterday.

On Nov. 6th, we flew United to Bangkok and Thai Air to Chiang Mai. Even though we had a long layover in Bangkok, we decided to stay in the airport and it worked out well. We ate, had massages, napped some, etc. and the time flew by.

Chiang Mai-5 nights at Baan Orapin, a lovely location, excellent rooms, food and service.

Nov. 13th, we flew from Chiang Mai to Mae Hong Son and stayed at Fern Resort for 2 nights. What a beautiful resort. Could have spent more time there.

Met our guide, Mr. Charlie, driver and 11 seater van for the 4 of us. Could not have been better. Spent the next 6 days with him, then one day with another guide (would not recommend him) and 1 day with a great driver recommended by Mr. Charlie.

Nov. 15th, stayed at Soppong River Inn for one night.

Nov. 16th, stayed at Baan Rai Lanna Resort in Mae Taeng for one night-gorgeous.

Nov. 17th, stayed at Little Home in Mae Salong for one night. Too noisy, but great location.

Nov. 18th-Baan Soontree in Chiang Rai for 3 nights - great.

Nov. 21st-flew from Chiang Rai to Bangkok and stayed at Evergreen Place-mostly good. Had Ratt as our driver for 2 of the days.

Nov. 24th-flew to Singapore and stayed at the Marriott for 3 nights. Lovely, good location, very expensive (but had points for two nights).

More to follow soon!

Hanuman Nov 29th, 2012 04:01 PM

Glad you had a good trip Virginia!

Kathie Nov 29th, 2012 07:25 PM

I'm glad it all worked out for you. I look forward to reading more.

filmwill Nov 29th, 2012 07:52 PM

Baan Rai Lanna...now *there* is a place I haven't heard mentioned in a LONG time!

We stayed there on our very first trip to Asia in 2006, shortly after an expat Brit named Scott had opened it. It was amazing then--but it switched owners later on and subsequently I heard it had gone downhill. But, looking at more recent TripAdvisor reviews--and from your description--it seems that things have gotten much better.

So happy to hear you liked it! Can't wait to hear more about your trip.

virginiafish Dec 1st, 2012 12:29 AM

Thanks!
filmwill- BRL was a wonderful surprise. It was a last minute decision and a shot in the dark, based solely on how far we wanted to drive that day. It was updated, peaceful, clean and had a lovely setting with an infinity pool so inviting we delayed our morning departure to enjoy it. Breakfast was included, but non-descript. Staff was lovely, too.

rhkkmk Dec 1st, 2012 05:31 AM

we enjoyed meeting you for that brief breakfast (BTW, no cost to me, as we encountered problems there and they eliminated all food charges).

anxious to read your detailed report
bob

virginiafish Dec 1st, 2012 04:52 PM

Chapter I-Chiang Mai: our pick-up from the airport by Baan Orapin went smoothly with the exception of confusion that we were arriving domestic, not international. Taken to Baan Orapin and oriented. We went for lunch down the street at The Gallery-great setting on the river with good food. Took a nap, went to the pool and then, to friend's for dinner. Day 2, we walked around the old city, visiting a few wats and took a songthaew to Doi Suthep. We met up with relatives, also in Thailand on vacation, at River Market Restaurant for a glorious meal. Day 3 was spent at Siam Rice Thai Cookery School in a day of cooking with a great, small group, delicious food and good instruction. Day 4 was spent at Thai Elephant Home (small, well organized day of bareback riding, mud baths and swimming with the elephants) and Duke's for dinner. Day 5 was an "easy" day recovering from our elephant experience and shopping around at The Healing Arts Center, Sop Moi Arts, and to the Northern School for the Blind for massages. For lunch, we took a taxi to Talat Thanim Market (pg. 268 Lonely Planet). The early evening was spent at Monk Chat at Wat Suan Dok and meeting friends at Ginger for dinner-we were under-whlemed with the service.

virginiafish Dec 5th, 2012 05:05 AM

Chapter IIa: The North: Day 1-Flew to Mae Hong Son via Kan Air in a small plane with great mountain views and a dramatic landing. We were met by our guide, Charlie [email protected], and the 11 seater van and driver. What a lovely way to go! We checked into Fern Resort (beautiful) with great accommodations right along the water on one side with rice fields on the other. We met about our itinerary and off we went. Starting off with a delicious lunch at Fern Restaurant, we visited the temples in Mae Hong Son near the lake, visited a mud "spa" and did a facial and went into the mineral waters (great views), ate dinner at the night stalls and bought a lantern and sent it off near the lake and the night market. The next day, we went to Mae Surin waterfall, to see the Mexican sunflowers in bloom in the surrounding mountains and to the newly rebuilt WWII museum-Khun Yuam Near Mae Hong Son. It had not "officially" reopened, and was pristine and well organized, with English info and a good video. We then returned to MHS and regret that we didn't just go back to Fern Resort and have a relaxing dinner there and maybe a swim. We went back to the market for dinner and walked around a little, but were tired.

More soon-sorry this is taking so long, but through jet lag, we returned back to work...

rhkkmk Dec 5th, 2012 05:25 AM

take your time, we love the story

virginiafish Jan 2nd, 2013 03:34 PM

Chapter IIb: The North Day 3, 4, 5: Mae Hong Son to Mae Salong: We visited Pha Sua Waterfall and the Tham Pla Fish Cave. We fed the fish at both places and hiked around Tham Pla--nice hike, but watch your step. The Coffin Caves were then reached by a hike up a long ladder and then, some more rock climbing. The coffin remains are remarkable--about 2,500 years old. We checked into Soppong River Inn, which is very dimly lit at night. It's beautiful and the rooms were nice, but small. The walkways were slick. Soppong closes up early, so an early dinner is necessary. We had a good dinner at Soppong River Inn. Next day, we went to Mae La Na to the diamond cave. On the way, we saw Shan children in traditional clothing (every Friday) working in the fields at their school. Our guide was required to hire a local guide to take us to that cave. Tham Lod caving was done in a bamboo raft, again separately guided, with optional hikes. Passed through Pai, eating at Na's Kitchen (very reasonable and good) with some falafel from the kabob place across the street. We traveled, evening time, in the dark, through twisted roads to Mae Taeng and stayed at Baan Rai Lanna Resort-lovely bungalows with infinity pool. After a relaxing morning in the pool, we went to Chiang Dao, the cave with lots of buddhas and a easy path. At Tha Thom, we drove up to the Temple, which is new at 9 years old, with lovely viewpoints. Then, on to Mae Salong, checking into Little Home Guesthouse (small, clean rooms, well-located for the early morning market, but noisy). Dinner was at a Chinese restaurant.

rhkkmk Jan 2nd, 2013 07:39 PM

sounds very backwater, but interesting... lots of bug problems?

virginiafish Jan 3rd, 2013 07:19 AM

"Backwater"? Please explain. No bug problems, but our clothes were treated & we were conscientious with repellent. Also, used mosquito netting as provided.

rhkkmk Jan 3rd, 2013 09:49 AM

backwater=less travelled

virginiafish Jan 3rd, 2013 03:03 PM

ahhh... Yes, we were on the roads less traveled, but not heavily trekking, per se. It was excellent to have our guide and driver and local ones, as needed. Charlie was great, showing us hilltribe villages where he had family that were not on the tourist path and restaurants where locals ate, etc.

rhkkmk Jan 4th, 2013 09:19 AM

i'll continue to enjoy 4-5* and travel with you thru fodors, etc.

virginiafish Mar 16th, 2013 04:26 PM

Well, in an effort to make this the best trip report, it has not gotten done. So, I am going to quickly finished and will happily fill in details as needed.
North Day 6: Little Home Guesthouse was clean and very basic. Unfortunately, it was noisy, so sleep. The restaurant, though, looked as though it would be good. It was conveniently located for one to hop out of bed and go down to the market at 6AM (it only goes to 8) and enjoy some warm goat's milk and fried "donuts"--delicious, enjoying sunrise. There were tribespeople from surrounding districts and a colorful market display, including pig's heads, etc. Later in the day, we stopped at a market in the southern end of town that goes all day. Afterwards, we walked to a fuller breakfast. Charlie then took us to hike up 718 steps to Wat Santikhiri for great views. Then we visited a tea salon and the fields of tea were a lovely sight. We had tea buns, etc., and tasted a variety of teas.

virginiafish Mar 17th, 2013 05:55 PM

Prior to the tea plantation, Charlie took us to a quiet village where we saw rice being dried and shafted and peanuts drying, etc., with grandmothers holding swaddled babies. We also stopped at a agricultural residential high school, saw children fishing in the stream and had lunch at their cafe with food locally produced. We helped plant some seedlings.

PaganiPilot Mar 17th, 2013 07:14 PM

Wanna cry..

virginiafish Mar 18th, 2013 05:17 AM

?!? PaganiPilot. I think I will ignore your comment and move forward.

PaganiPilot Mar 18th, 2013 02:31 PM

Sorry that wasnt intended for ur post


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