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khunwilko Jun 15th, 2020 07:00 PM

Travel bubbles for Thailand.
 
"Tourists won't be able to roam freely -- they can only go to places which have high disease-control capabilities. This is the guideline for the reception of foreign tourists... I think it's safer and better than liberalised tourism," the prime minister said." Bkk post

Visitors will undergo stricken screening g and will need health certificates.
it seems unlikely that countries like USA or UK will be included yet...... China and Australia are likely to be favoured along with Si galore, New Zealand and south Kirea.

It really doesnt look like much will happen before August.

khunwilko Jun 20th, 2020 01:23 AM

No tourists in the first bubbles say Anutin, health minister.
it looks like the first people allowed back are going g to be business people, those with work permits and students and teachers. It also seems new teachers without work permits in place will not be allowed. So all recruitment in education a d other areas will have to be with people already in the country.
The Thai aviation authority said flights wont be back until September. Presumably when tourists are allowed in in bubbles.

None of this bodes well for anyone from the UK or USA as the bubbles are for countries deemed as low risk by Thailand.


https://www.nationthailand.com/news/...ernal_referral

khunwilko Jun 27th, 2020 08:00 PM

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fod...1eeefe9cdf.png



This was released by the Thai foreign office.
"The Ministry of Public Health is preparing related information before the plan is submitted to the Center for COVID-19 Situation Administration (CCSA), chaired by Prime Minister General Prayut Chan-o-cha, for consideration on 29 June 2020.

Apart from Thai nationals, travelers to be allowed to enter Thailand include members of diplomatic corps and international organizations and foreigners who intend to visit Thailand for economic and social reasons.

The relaxation of travel restrictions for foreigners who visit Thailand for economic and social reasons will be divided into three phases.

The first phase involves short- and long-term arrivals, such as guests of the Thai government, businessmen, investors, skilled workers, experts, people with Thai families, teachers, and students.

The second phase involves patients seeking Thai health services, and the third phase involves tourists and migrant workers.

In the plan on the monitoring system to prevent and control COVID-19 infection, the foreigners have to follow the regulations and measures of the Department of Diseases Control, such as the presentation of a fit-to-fly health certificate and insurance that covers COVID-19 medical examination and treatment. They will also be required to accept 14-day quarantine, if necessary, while in Thailand."

It looks like countries handling Covid badly or in a way Thailand doesn't regard a safe will have to wait.
Again that looks like USAand UK will have to wait, unless individual states can make exceptions???

FromDC Jun 28th, 2020 02:51 AM

Any idea about when businesswomen will be allowed in?

khunwilko Jun 28th, 2020 03:44 AM


Originally Posted by FromDC (Post 17121960)
Any idea about when businesswomen will be allowed in?


although the site said "businessmen" when translated to English, I doubt if even Thailand will be discriminating by gender on this issue.
the original Thai does not actually specify gender and would do so only by specifying "woman" after, otherwise it would be non-gendered.

FromDC Jun 28th, 2020 04:06 AM

Still....someone in the Foreign Office must review the translation before disseminating. Easy enough to substitute something else.

khunwilko Jun 28th, 2020 05:25 AM


Originally Posted by FromDC (Post 17121975)
Still....someone in the Foreign Office must review the translation before disseminating. Easy enough to substitute something else.

I think you don't really have an insight as to how these things pan out in Thailand. the is virtually no chance anyone will check/edit/copywrite anything that is realised to more than a cursory extent. This may even be a ran station my a media outlet or private law firm.
As the language itself doesn't discriminate overtly it is quite likely that any gender bias would be [icked up on...exsecially as Thailand has little or no legislation to address discrimination odf any kind.

janisj Jun 28th, 2020 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by FromDC (Post 17121975)
Still....someone in the Foreign Office must review the translation before disseminating. Easy enough to substitute something else.


Really?? You pick nits like that? Have you ever sent back an electronic gizmo because the owners manual/directions was translated weirdly. That fight would be OK in the Lounge . . .

jacketwatch Jun 28th, 2020 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by janisj (Post 17122071)
Really?? You pick nits like that? Have you ever sent back an electronic gizmo because the owners manual/directions was translated weirdly. That fight would be OK in the Lounge . . .

I agree. The OP is providing helpful information which by using common sense anyone can understand.

khunwilko Jun 28th, 2020 10:06 PM

The CCSA has now extended the state of emergency until the 31 July.
So ruling by decree.
Changwats ( Provinces) will still have some control over their own lockdown and who comes in ot out.

Pubs bars karaoke can reopen but must close at midnight.

No decision yet on who will be allowed on incoming flights and their restrictions. Coming soon!

khunwilko Jun 29th, 2020 11:41 PM

5 islands to be opened
 
A month earlier than expected, 5 islands will be opened for tourist in August if the locals agree.
Phuket, Koh Phi-phi, Koh Samui, Koh Pha Ngan and Koh Tao.
Tourists will not be allowed off the islands or to stop over in places like Bkk.

"To start with, we will limit the number of tourists depending on each area’s capability to effectively screen visitors for Covid-19,” Tourism ministry official said

"we will limit the number of tourists depending on each area’s capability to effectively screen visitors for Covid-19" z Tourist spokesperson.

They haven't said which countries will be "invited".

https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30390528?utm_source=homepage&utm_medium=internal_r eferral



khunwilko Jul 5th, 2020 08:18 PM

As UK has decided to quarantine all visitors from Thailand, I doubt if Thailand will be opening up to UK visitors any day in the near future.

khunwilko Jul 8th, 2020 01:08 AM

So now the travel bubble scheme has collapsed till further notice as infections have occurred Ibn the countries targeted.

they now say they will concentrate on the domestic tourism market....that sure has hell ain't gonna replace 20 million Chinese!

It would seem that Thailand has set itself impossible goals of "no Covid" rather than attempting to learn how to cope with it.

it is unlikely that the world will ever be covid free - -we still are free of the bubonic plague - and that's a bacteria!

jobin Jul 8th, 2020 07:52 PM

May i correct? 'still NOT free of bubonic plague'
As per yesterday
https://edition.cnn.com/travel/artic...cli/index.html

khunwilko Jul 9th, 2020 02:03 AM


Originally Posted by jobin (Post 17126472)
May i correct? 'still NOT free of bubonic plague'
As per yesterday
https://edition.cnn.com/travel/artic...cli/index.html


Yes! Sorry I missed out the word "not" (typo) as in "we still are NOT free of the bubonic plague - and that's a bacteria!"

USA even has a dozen or so cases every year!

SirHalberd Jul 14th, 2020 04:50 PM

Another possible setback for allowing a more "normal" flow of tourist visits into Thailand with restrictions relaxed.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKCN24F0ZU

Like the previous post hints at, this Coronavirus problem may be something to deal with each year. Kind of like the common flu that kills well over a hundred thousand people each year. With the flu life goes on with acceptable risk. My opinion, we may have to take more risks with opening businesses up and people going to work again.
https://www.medicinenet.com/script/m...iclekey=208914

With the whole world working on a vaccine I am hopeful that something will be available before the end of the year.

Hoping for the best!







SirHalberd Jul 20th, 2020 12:46 AM

Recent story for Thailand tourism.

Years before Thailand sees 40mn tourists again: BoT


https://www.thephuketnews.com/years-...-bot-76736.php


khunwilko Jul 20th, 2020 10:51 PM

There is no guarantee a vaccine will end Covid. Even how much it will reduce the spread is not a given....
The precautions against Covid could remain in place in some form indeterminately
The effect on Thailand's economy may already have been devastating.
Future visitors should be prepared to face a new layer of bureaucratic requirements ...... medical certificates, medical insurance and even restrictions of movement.
The governments draconian powers may have helped control the spread of the virus but now they have to co sider the economic ramifications.

It looks like foreigners within the country may get a further extension of there visa amnesty. Maybe they will review their restrictive visa policies after this too?

khunwilko Jul 22nd, 2020 08:05 PM

Visa amnesty extension till 26th September.

There is still a state of emergency in force

No sign of a general admission of foreign tourists. Could be months.
Thailand is very fearful of a second wave being triggered.

khunwilko Jul 22nd, 2020 08:05 PM

Visa amnesty extension till 26th September.

There is still a state of emergency in force

No sign of a general admission of foreign tourists. Could be months.
Thailand is very fearful of a second wave being triggered.


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