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chaz Jan 8th, 2003 01:31 PM

Thailand's National Parks-- Avoid Them!
 
I have spent a great deal of time in Thailand &amp; find the country and the Thai people to be amazing! However, there is one big drawback-- the national parks in Thailand cost foreigners 10 TIMES-- yes, that's right 10 TIMES the rate charged to Thai nationals! (Mind you, the fee is not that much for Americans-- but it's the principal of the thing: everyone should pay the same price!) The national parks are typically not really that spectacular-- so you're not missing that much-- but it is my suggestion that you forego the national parks. When the Thai government starts seeing lower numbers of foreigners &amp; less cash in the till, they'll get the message that this practice is unacceptable!<BR><BR>Enjoy the rest of Thailand-- it is spectacular-- just boycott the Thailand National Parks!

orgy7 Jan 8th, 2003 02:50 PM

UHHH... since you've spent a great deal in thailand and in asia. you should have realized that you almost always get quoted more then the locals on everything.. <BR><BR>that is one fact that does drive me nuts about thailand .. like you said it's the principal...

Mary Anne Cook Jan 8th, 2003 03:21 PM

Did you go to the National Park on Phuket? I plan to go in a few weeks. Please give your opinion on this one. Is it worth the visit? I have read there is a gibbon rehabilation center there which would interest me. True?

Kathie Jan 8th, 2003 04:59 PM

It's common practice to charge more to people who are not locals, who do not support the parks (or whatever) with their tax dollars. Thailand is one of many countries that does this. Personally, I don't mind paying more than the locals. It only seems fair.

surfergrrl Jan 8th, 2003 05:28 PM

I agree, Kathie - Of course we should pay more - isn't the Thai tax dollar that goes to maintain national parks? so in fact, they should charge us more -we don't pay taxes in Thailand. Think of it as Thai taxpayers getting a break. they've already paid for the parks, we haven't. if it's not paid for by Thai tax money, it still makes sense to charge us proportionately - I don't mind - I make a lot more money here in Canada than most Thais do.

notsonaive Jan 8th, 2003 08:57 PM

I've heard many Taiwanese and Malays get away with it, appears to be Caucasians who pay. <BR>In fact I reckon that all foreigners who are richer than the average American should pay extra to see the sights in the U.S, brilliant idea. I say let a poor family from Georgia go in free, middle class family from Illinois can pay say $5, but any rich Japanese or Swiss people should pay $50. Excellent idea!<BR><BR>How many Thai do you think pay any tax whatsoever?

Dan Jan 9th, 2003 08:03 AM

Please remember that Thailand is not a &quot;fair&quot; society with a democratic government. The country is ruled by a very powerful and corrupt king, and the government does not care a lick about fairness for you, in fact the Thai government ranks with the most corrupt in the world. Just don`t mention this while in the country, you could face severe penalties. As far as the parks, they are a very worthwhile visit, if you like parks. I was happy to pay the dues and felt we always got our money`s worth.

Brett Jan 9th, 2003 08:15 AM

Err.. Thailand is a Constitutional Monarchy like England. How can a king be corrupt? You think you can bribe a king Dan? <BR><BR>About the tax thing. All employed Thais earning above 7,500 baht per month pay taxes. Thais also have VAT(value added tax) and other form of taxation and some of the money does go to the national park service.

Bill Jan 9th, 2003 08:32 AM

<BR>For heaven's sake! It's ten times as much, but still not much? So you pay $3 instead of 30 cents? Or $5 instead of 50 cents?<BR>Whatever it is, the supply/demand forces are still at work.<BR><BR>That poor person from Georgia is going to spend 50+ hours and $900 to go to/from Thailand. There he is in Thailand, at the Bangkok Hilton, nursing a $3 bottle of Bud and whining &quot;No fair, I'm not going to pay an extra $2.70 for something that costs 30 cents!&quot; (or extra $4.50, or $9, or $18)<BR><BR>

Bill Jan 9th, 2003 08:38 AM

<BR>If a king has power, especially absolute power, then he can be corrupted. Absolutely.<BR>

jane Jan 9th, 2003 11:54 AM

What a cheap-skate. Pay the poor Thais for the privilege of seeing their parks. They have so little money, what is an extra $1 or so when you go on a trip like this.

Ingrid Jan 9th, 2003 02:03 PM

The parks are fantastic - they are landmarks..how can you skip those??<BR>It's like saying you are going to Paris, but not seeing the Louvre, etc.<BR>I think it's worth the $0.50 to enter the parks.<BR><BR>Ingrid :-)

darlene Jan 9th, 2003 03:34 PM

Ingrid,<BR>I've been meaning to post on here to ask about the parks. I am very interested in animal and bird viewing: in the parks, near Chiang Mai and Chaing Rei or other locations. I have been to Africa and the Park fee are much more there, but well worth it.

Tangata Jan 9th, 2003 05:28 PM

Just one comment for ignorant Dan. Don’t come to Thailand with that attitude. If you made a remark like that about His Majesty in Thailand you could end up dead very quickly indeed. He is loved and admired by all of his people and has devoted his life to Thailand.<BR><BR>If you want to take on the Government then that is fine.<BR><BR>Back to the original postings. It seems to depend on the individual involved, but if you can produce a Thai driving licence, implying tax-paying status, then some will charge you the 20 Baht local rate, rather than the 200 Baht ($5) foreign rate. <BR><BR>

Dee Jan 9th, 2003 06:57 PM

Universities in the U.S. charge foreign students for their tuition fees 3-4 times what the 'locals' pay. I guess it's by the same double standard. <BR><BR>Say what you want about the entrtance fee for Thai National Parks. We're just too glad ignoramuses are boycotting them.

BETH Jan 9th, 2003 07:26 PM

In the States, amusement parks often charge &quot;locals&quot; less than tourists. I know this is true of Disneyland. <BR><BR>

Pat Jan 10th, 2003 04:34 AM

Dan &amp; Bill<BR><BR>You've got no clue about Thailand and its people.<BR>The King is much loved and admired by Thai people because he is a great person who helps his country in every way he can. He devotes his life for Thailand and makes a lot of difference in his country.<BR>I'm not saying that the government is not corrupted, but definitely not the King.<BR>Again, with this kind of attitude, please just stay where you are and do not travel anywhere.

Nick Jan 10th, 2003 04:35 AM

Hotel accommodation in Hawaii for locals is less than for non-residents - not 10x, but Hawaiians are not so much poorer than other Americans.<BR>This at least used to be very common practice across Eastern Europe as well.

Heather Jan 10th, 2003 06:30 AM

My first experience with this practise (which is very common all over the world) was camping in American State Parks.

John Jan 10th, 2003 08:06 AM

Many countries levy surcharges on to non-locals. Even countries some counries in western Europe. It makes a great deal of sense. I don't know why the British don't do the same.


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