Thailand for the holidays

Dec 21st, 2008, 10:06 AM
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Hi Kathie,
You probably don't want to hear that we dined outside once again tonight! The weather is absolutely perfect! Maeng cooked for DH and me. The Pickled Liver has outside dining (just started since after I was here in Aug/Sept, so we took advantage of it. We met an interesting couple... he's Scottish, living in Bangkok for the last 8 years or so; she is Thai. They have been married for just over a year. He works in the oil industry and makes really good money, so they can afford to travel to neat places. Loved conversing with them at Maengs. They had the next table.

DH and DS played pool today, as I mentioned before. They both got beat, but they had a good time. DH was playing exceptionally well tonight, but not good enough to beat the French National Champion...

More tomorrow... (sorry about all the snow back in the US)

Carol
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Dec 21st, 2008, 10:09 AM
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Actually, Carol, I DO want to hear that you dined outside last night! I took a photo of our backyard dining area this morning with more than 8 inches of snow atop the table and chairs. I'm trying to keep warm by dreaming of Thailand!
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Dec 21st, 2008, 10:47 AM
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We got 10-12 inches of snow on Friday and another 6 today. Glad to hear you're eating outside. We'll be at the shelter in a week.
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Dec 21st, 2008, 11:07 AM
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Hi Carol
Writing from Horrible Chicago. It would be hard for it to be much worse here, howling winds and the temp is minus 4 degrees. We will be leaving OHare in 9 days for BKK and though we will enjoy having our grown "kids" home for Christmas, can't wait to leave all this behind. Do keep your new restaurant finds coming, I'll be taking notes and adding to Bob's wonderful BKK list of eateries.
Do you know if the Adelphi Suites have been seeing cancelations for near the end of January? Have you heard of anywhere offering great deals? We are all set through Jan 25th and have a tentative booking with the Milennium Hilton, on HH Points (upgraded) 25-30th Jan however, if something else really decent comes up would consider it.

Make the most of the wonderful weather you are experiencing, I promise you, you chose an ideal time to leave Chicago,
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Dec 21st, 2008, 11:54 AM
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We are looking out at 20 inches of snow and it's still snowing - never seen this much snow before Christmas. And we're not going to Asia until April - well at least we need not worry about our flights getting canceled due to snow...

OK - now let's get to the good stuff: if you had one new restaurant to choose, would it be Kinnaree or Long Table?

On a sad note, my grandfather passed away yesterday, he made it to 104 years but not to Christmas. I mention it only because you acknowledged him in a previous post. We were glad we had the opportunity to take him out to lunch after the Boston GTG. Although we saw him a couple of times after that, it was the last time we saw him outside of the hospital or rehab.
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Dec 21st, 2008, 12:14 PM
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Craig, my condolences on the death of your grandfather.

Both coasts and the middle of the country are getting walloped with snow and ice. It continues to snow here. Nothing is moving. While there are technically some snowplows in the Puget Sound region, I don't think I've ever seen one plowing a street. It's still snowing here, too. I think this is the most snow I've ever seen in Seattle.
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Dec 21st, 2008, 12:34 PM
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Craig- My condolences to you as well. So hard to lose loved ones near the holidays.

But wow, 104! I bet your grandfather had some great stories. And how nice that he could have gone out with you at his age.


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Dec 21st, 2008, 05:18 PM
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Craig, I just want to add to the others, regarding the loss of your grandfather. I recall you talking about him in Boston. I'm sure he had an amazing long life and it is good that you could see him before his passing. You and Jeanne have my sympathies.

Long Table or Kinnaree??? Tough question. You are asking me to compare apples and oranges. If I want a view, I'd go to Long Table waaaay before I'd spend the big bucks to dine at, say, the top of State Tower again. Don't get me wrong, I'd probably return to Sky Bar for cocktails. I'd dine AND have cocktails at Long Table again in a heartbeat.

Kinnaree has a more traditional Thai atmosphere. The setting is a Thai style house, not a very modern hip place on the 25th floor of a skyscraper. The food at Kinnaree is much more traditional Thai. Many more options on the menu for those of us with allergies or foods that we do/don't care for. DH wants to return to Kinnaree, so I'm sure we'll be going there soon. Oh, and it's much quieter as well. No DJ playing electronic music like they do at Long Table (but I like listening to it).

Sue.... sounds like you will arrive in BKK when I'm still here! Any chance we can meet up? I'm staying at Adelphi, which isn't close to the Hilton on the river. But I don't mind traveling... haha! I'm here until January 7. Do you think you could arrange for OHare to be open and cleared off by then??? I will try to put in a good word for you as far as keeping Bangkok weather as glorious as it has been so far!

As far as deals, I think if you walked into one of the 5* hotels right now, you could get pretty much whatever you want, and just offer them whatever you want to. Many are at 10% occupancy right now. But, that said, many are looking quite hopeful for the return of the tourists in January. So, you probably should keep your Hilton room and not trust your luck to finding a great deal somewhere else. The best way to find out about the Adelphi is to look on line for availability. We still really like this place (and no, it's not 5* lux) because it's near friends and shopping and dining. And it's so easy to walk around here at night and not feel the least bit fearful, even if I'm out walking alone at 2am.

I'm really sorry to hear about all the snow and ice in the US. But it makes my outside dining just that much sweeter (sorry)... "My bad.."

I'm going to the office with Brad today. Seems the proofing work I did yesterday has resulted in some necessary revisions. Still hoping to be "ready" to print before we go home in January though. Hope the author doesn't mind spending Christmas at his computer... haha

I'll check in later! Have a snuggly warm day, where ever you are spending it. Bill and David should be arriving home in LA by now, I think. Hope they enjoyed their trip in Bus class on Thai.

Carol



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Dec 21st, 2008, 05:31 PM
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Craig:

I am very sorry to read of the loss of your Grandfather. Condolences to you and your family. I am also impressed that you had a grandparent until this stage of life. How extraordinary! May you be blessed with such long life.
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Dec 22nd, 2008, 05:21 AM
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Thought I better put my 2 satang in about the GTG:

It certainly was nice to put faces on a couple more names. Of course, now that I've met the "infamous" Filmwill, it's even harder to figure out what he could have said to get banned (or rather, temporarily suspended).

The food at the Millennium was certain good, and there was a lot of it. I scoped out the place on a weekday, and they easily had at least double the food out for lunch. However, I think I'd still rate the Sukhothai as the best lunch buffet I've had.

As to deals, as I told the GTG, hotels in Bangkok have basically written off December. Most of them are under 30% occupancy. Some are trying to salvage the new year business - a lot of which is local anyway. In something of a switch, Shangri-La is giving away a room if you buy their gala new years eve dinner at Sala Thai (though at 8,500 Baht for the dinner, it's not the bargain it might seem).

I expect that the business class hotels (Hyatt, JW, Sheraton Grande) will be the ones who will really be hurting long term. A lot of meetings and conventions have already been canceled - the US Embassy, which being the largest in Asia hosts a lot of regional staff meetings, has canceled or moved all of the meetings they had schedule in Bangkok through September 2009. I expect they'll be the ones offering deep discounts, but there's no sign of them yet.
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Dec 22nd, 2008, 01:41 PM
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I'm up very early this morning, at 5am, to meet Maeng and Brad in the lobby about 6:15. Today the three of us are flying up to Chiang Mai for the day. We opted for Thai business class (747s both ways) instead of the less expensive Bangkok Airways. If I understand the travel agent correctly, we fly OUT of BKK but back INTO the old Don Muang airport. Interesting...

Michael, thanks for putting in your 2 satang about the GTG. Yes, hard to believe that Bill got suspended from the boards.

Thanks for the info about deals on hotels. I agree that December is written off, but did hear that some places are more optimistic for January.

Weather is still wonderful, although just a tad warmer yesterday. I understand that Chiang Mai will be just downright chilly (in the 60s, low 70s??). Now to me chilly is maybe 40ish. Anyway, I'm wearing a sweater.

We'll chat more later. Have a great evening.

Oh, and good news for our author. He doesn't need to work on Christmas Day. We have resolved almost all of the issues with his manuscript!! Yippeeee)

Carol

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Dec 22nd, 2008, 02:11 PM
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Oh to be wearing only one sweater...

In case it reinforces your delight even further, I am reporting that in Boston at present the wind chill makes it "feel like 8 degrees" F according to our local radio station. When you do go out, there are public transit delays and both walking and parking are compromised by the foot and a half of snow on the ground.

Enjoy...
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Dec 22nd, 2008, 02:57 PM
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Hi Carol,

Welcome back to Thailand. I just got back from Luang Prabang last night and just read up on your post today. Sorry I missed the GTG and it sounded like you guys had a lot of fun!

Have fun in Chiang Mai!
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Dec 22nd, 2008, 04:20 PM
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Yes Carol,
We will be there for our first BKK break from Jan 3-11. We will be at the Riverside Marriott during that period.(then we go to the Marriott Beach Club Phuket) Later from 25 Jan-30th, back in BKK.
How would we connect? and how about say the 5th or 6th Jan?, and, any chance that some other well known Asia Board personnel might be interested in another mini BKK get together?? If so, someone, name the place and time - 5th or 6th Jan and we'll be there.

We would love to get together with you and, as you will shortly be returning to this G.. Awful weather and we can gloat a bit at your impending return to the Chicago environs!!! - sorry, just HAD to do that.
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Dec 22nd, 2008, 04:50 PM
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Damn, Carol, you're in Bkk again? Lol, weren't you there 3 mos ago?
You people make me sick! (j/k)

I'll be freezing my @ss off in Toronto!! Quite paradoxically, I will also be eating Chinese food (Dim Sum) in Xmas day, lol. Talk about reversals. Be safe!

Kurt

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Dec 23rd, 2008, 07:21 AM
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hi carol, you must be the queen of timing. getting into bangkok just after the chaos at the airport, and fleeing il during the terrible winter weather. lol. hi maeng.

craig, my condolences for the passing of your grandfather. 104, wow! he must have had alot of interesting stories. keep warm.

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Dec 23rd, 2008, 08:40 AM
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Thanks all for your kind thoughts.
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Dec 23rd, 2008, 08:51 AM
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We will be having Peking Duck on Christmass day.
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Dec 23rd, 2008, 08:57 AM
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At the China House at the Oriental?
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bill, will it be stuffed with adobo baboy?
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