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Thailand; Cambodia; and Laos- Shots and Rainy Season?

Thailand; Cambodia; and Laos- Shots and Rainy Season?

Aug 27th, 2008, 08:11 AM
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Love dogster. He says on the forum what I only say to myself.
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Aug 28th, 2008, 12:30 AM
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Dogster...normally I travel on the whim...however I think you misinterpret some things here:

1- I start a brand new job the day I get back-- If i am sick...my career is in the proverbial crapper.

2- The way I would travel there is a bit different and would leave me susceptible-- I would be in the jungles of Laos and Cambodia eating whatever (bugs, brains, eyes...no matter to me)...and basically taking the off-track style trip.

I am hoping to get in for the shots tomorrow...I am on "standby."

And for the record-- I have probably done, eaten, and put myself in more nasty situations than you can imagine.

In fact, I am currently training for my first 8000m peak- Cho Oyu. When the permits come through...I will be up that bad boy next Summer. Following year-- Mt. Everest.

So I am not afraid of doing this...nor am I afraid of larks. I am, however, confident that some risk should not be taken at times.

If you are adventurous...please do join us for our trip. Sarcams...devoid in this post.
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Aug 28th, 2008, 01:43 AM
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If it were me, I'd be a tad bit concerned about starting a new job the day after getting home! Jetlag after a trip to S E Asia can be a real killer for a few days.

I'm in Bangkok right now, my 14th time here. I'm like dogster... no shots ever. But, I don't go out into the jungle to trek either. I'm pretty much vacationing right here in Bangkok and sometimes include a beach for a few days and/or a trip to Chiang Mai to the markets.

Hope you get to make your trip! S E Asia is magical, just as others have said. Get prepared for a feast for the senses!!! You'll be back!

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Aug 28th, 2008, 01:46 AM
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I meant to add that BUMRUNGRAD hospital in Bangkok is somewhere in the top 10 hospitals in the world. I'm registered there, so if something would happen (heaven forbid) that's where I would be taken. I've just been there today for a dental appointment and will return Sunday for follow-up. The care is really great. It is a very impressive hospital, for sure.

Hope to see you in Boston at the GTG. I'll be coming in from Illinois.

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Aug 28th, 2008, 02:08 AM
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The jet lag coming back to the US can last for a long time. It's much easier going to Asia than on the return. Leave yourself a few days before starting your job to recover.
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Aug 28th, 2008, 02:43 AM
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O.K. pmg:
You heard me - I hear you. Fair 'nuff.
You sound like my kinda guy/gal. If I wasn't nearly 150 years old I'd be with you.
Good luck my friend.
Now go, go, GO!

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Aug 28th, 2008, 04:54 AM
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We note that the Dogster is a very energetic 150 years old. Is that how long it takes to write that well?
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Aug 28th, 2008, 06:39 AM
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pmg, it sounds like it is coming together for you! Hooray!

Everyone is different, everyone has to assess the risks and benefits for themselves. It sounds like you've done a good job of considering the health issues for yourself.

In terms of jetlag, I appear to be the outlier here. I've often flown home from SE Asia many times, arriving in Seattle on a Sunday morning, and being at work at 7 am the next morning. I really have not had much problem with jetlag returning home, which is when most people report more difficulty. I do use melatonin for the first couple of nights back to reset my body clock. (This is why I used to be able to take one week trips to Asia, leaving on Friday morning, returning on Sunday morning.)

I expect you've traveled enough to know what you need in terms of adjustment time for jetlag. For many people it really is debilitating.
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Aug 28th, 2008, 10:58 PM
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First-- I want to thank EVERYONE in this thread for the help.

Second-- I sadly cannot make this trip happen. I mean with the clinic at MGH and they said they would absolutely not clear me for shots because I had a slight fever from a cold I am just finishing on.

I marched down to my regular doctor at Mass General...and she knows me well. She knows I cracked my head open two weeks ago, crazy glued the sucker, and finished another 4 hours worth of regatta racing with a Grade II concussion.

She has also been to SE Asia numerous times and absolutely said I should not go.

The first reason was the shots...especially since I live an adventurous eating/hiking lifestyle that she said would put me at risk. The second, as you all just mentioned, was the jet-lag. I have no say in the start-date and she said I would be wiped for a few days...something I do not want for the start of a new job.

So...this thread, and all of you, have been absolutely amazing. I plan on doing this trip either on the backend of the Himalaya trip next summer...or maybe sooner (Dec?) if i can get the time.

Please dont think your efforts went to waste; in fact, they got me inspired to do this ASAP.

My secondary trip (Croatia/Italy) is on. I leave Tuesday morning. It is not as exciting...and I still kick myself for S.E.Asia deal falling through. However, I have never been to Croatia and would like to do so before it is completely overrun with tourists. As for Italy, it is the land of my grandparents...and no one in my family has gone back since the first arrival to the US in 1917. So...in the end...it will be interesting.

I may also try to get in a few days in either Bosnia or Montenegro and raft the Tara River.
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Aug 29th, 2008, 12:04 AM
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... so glad all has worked out for you ... cracked skull and all - and still, four hours of Regatta, with a Grade II ... 'we salute you' ... (thank you, ac/dc) ...

... and, by the way: you mentioned attempting Cho Oyu ... all the best to you ... some guys - and two very tough "gals" - and I went up and down that peak back in the nineties ... sans "bottled Os" for some - the only way to fly ... (well, along with those sensational Singapore Girls) ... (and just between us: would suggest that peak can be a bit of a "commercial" mountain these days ... (but will always fondly remember the "dancing girls" at a rather unique "disco" near the Nepalese/Tibetan border ... (pre-mrs. m era, to be sure) ...

... finally, will always love MA, and a certain 02138 neighbourhood ... one of the last places I ever studied, and courted a caucasian woman ...

... all the best to you, and with future travel, do kindly consider: SQ ...

macintosh (robert)

... "thank you" ...

(Hotel Yak & Yeti, Massage Centre, Kathmandu, 199_)

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Aug 29th, 2008, 01:33 AM
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croatia is lovely - definitely a place to go now as the package tours are starting...we loved montenegro also
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Aug 29th, 2008, 03:08 AM
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AO-The pandas are kept in 02140. It's a private enclosure with all the amenities.
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Aug 29th, 2008, 06:48 AM
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If you want to go trekking in the future, nobody has mentioned Luang nam tha in Northern Laos. I did a two day trek there in the wet season and loved it. Yes I got saturated, yes I got attacked by leaches, yes it was slippery and muddy but so what! It was great.

I did the Nam Ha Valley trek with Green Discovery and stayed in a Lanten village. Very basic - however the people were not really friendly, I suspect because they have their own language and speak very basic Lao - an obviously no English. My guide spoke very basic Lanten. The Akkha people on the other hand seem a lot more outgoing. (different tour - same company). However the scenery was beautiful and my guide was friendly, albeit with limited English.

I stayed at the Boat Landing Guesthouse which I would also recommend except that it is a bit out of town and there are not many tuk tuks around.
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Aug 29th, 2008, 07:27 AM
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I'm sorry SE Asia didn't work out this time. We'll all be glad to help plan when you are ready to go!

Enjoy Croatia!
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Aug 29th, 2008, 11:18 AM
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Exactly where in Asia is Croatia located?

PMG-we expect to see you at the Boston GTG in October.
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Aug 29th, 2008, 03:11 PM
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This post was informative...and has turned hillarious. I love it.

Yes all, I want to really start picking brains for the trip to SE Asia. I spoke to my best friend last night...and he told me that I should do Thailand for 3 weeks...and Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, on a seperate three week trip. He said I should get a nice feel for things.

He also literally punched me in the head and said "bah...shots and wet season?...how am I supposed to take you to Everest." He was kidding of course...well partially.

GPANDA- Croatia is a funny little plot of land in S.S.S.S.E Asia

TO AO: As for Cho Oyu...yes..it is commercial, however we plan on snowboarding/skiing down it...and it will also serve as a test for some of us. A few of us (including myself; I have an unhealed fracture in the sinus cavity) have medical issues so we are using it as a test case for our attempt on Everest.

For the adventurous here, if you remember the IMAX Nile movie...or the blind hiker that climbed Everest a few years back..., our friend was the main person of the movie...and the hiker's guide. His name is PV Scaturro. His latest trip to Ethiopia was chronicled two issues back in Outside. He will be guiding us up both. So...he prefers we do Cho Oyu prior to an attempt on Everest to see if medically we will have any issues that are above and beyond those found at Everest already. The beauty is...both trips are costing nothing because we would be filming an IMAX clip for both.

And yes...as of NOW...I plan on attending the Boston outing. It all depends if I am racing sailboats that weekend!

Thanks again all!
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