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FirstTimeToAsia Jul 6th, 2009 08:36 PM

Thai pronunciation assistance
 
How should I pronounce Ko(h) Samui and Chao Phraya? Are there any websites that include audio with the proper pronunciations?

Bushranger Jul 6th, 2009 10:01 PM

Drop the h for Koh whatever you use for Chao Phraya the Thais will not laugh - very polite people!
But something like Chow Praya [dropping h again ] will be close.

Don't know about web sites but Lonely Planet have handy little pocket size language books.

Bushranger Jul 6th, 2009 10:02 PM

Should have been 'Koh and whatever' and Samui just as it looks in english will do.

MichaelBKK Jul 6th, 2009 10:38 PM

The main thing is that 'ph' is NEVER pronounced 'f'. Most transliteration systems use 'ph' for a soft 'p' sound, and plain 'p' for a hard one. I sometimes think someone must have had a bad sense of humor when they decided to spell the other island's name 'Phuket' since the more 'correct' transliteration would be Bhuket, and the actual pronunciation is 'boo-ket'.

Check out Catherine Wentworth's Women Learn Thai web site for some useful resources and honest reviews of the books, etc. available:
http://womenlearnthai.com/

crellston Jul 6th, 2009 10:51 PM

Another good website http://www.thai-language.com/

khunwilko Jul 7th, 2009 07:39 AM

There are several western alphabetical interpretations of Thai letters - the basic problem is the west doesn't actually have the sounds in the first place.
"KH" is usually used to denote a "K" sound - Khao ("cow" sound in English)
"K" on its own tends to represent more of a "G" sound - island is spelt with "gaw - gai" symbol so should be pronounced "GO".

"CH" ends up somewhere between "CH" and "SH"

khunwilko Jul 7th, 2009 07:40 AM

BTW - the "O" in "GO" is short flat as in "orange"

MichaelBKK Jul 7th, 2009 10:12 PM

As Hanuman rightly says, you'll get all sorts of advice here & elsewhere that may not produce the desired result - the best we can do here is tell you how words sound to us - based on the alphabet we learned and the sounds we're used to. Best to hear from a native speaker, if you can.

Of course, Thais have accents too. I passed a couple of stock boys in Emporium yesterday who were chatting away, and I couldn't catch a single word they were saying (granted, they could have been Burmese or Khmer).

FirstTimeToAsia Jul 12th, 2009 06:50 PM

Not sure what happened at the end--but I appreciate the information and will check out the websites. It is good to hear the Thai people are forgiving when it comes to their language. I leave in less than a month! I am so excited!

crellston Jul 12th, 2009 11:25 PM

Firsttime - Forgot to mention that IMHO one of th ebest books available for learning the basics is Teach Yourself Thai by David Gray. It also comes with a couple of audio CDs and focuses upon the basics of conversation. It was the course book on my first year of Thai evening classes. I still have the audio on my iPod and always use it to revise on the flight into Thailand.

WLearningThai Jul 14th, 2009 08:36 PM

MichaelBKK, thanks for the mention.

Note: I've compiled a page of free resources for learning Thai...

http://womenlearnthai.com/index.php/...learning-thai/

There is enough there to keep anyone busy for a long, long time.


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