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Apr 19th, 2005, 01:15 PM
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Guenmai - My daughter and I just returned from Bangkok. Maybe we will try Singapore next trip. Thanks for the very helpful information. What is the shopping like??
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Apr 19th, 2005, 01:30 PM
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Shopping is better in BKK than Sing. I would say Hong Kong and Manila also are great for shopping- better than Sing.
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Apr 19th, 2005, 04:51 PM
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My son is 14 and bi-racial (I am white) and we have traveled to France, Italy, Switzerland, Mexico, Bahamas, Virgin Islands, Hawaii, and the U.S.. We are going to Hong Kong, China, and Japan in June. I always worry a little myself but have only encountered racism in a few places. Hawaii, by a hotel- Moana Surfrider- staff member.She kicked him out of the pool telling him he had to be a guest of the hotel. When he produced his room key she confiscated it and told him to leave the property via the beach. An 11 year old in the ocean by himself until I noticed from the veranda that he wasn't in the pool. And in Fla.and Mexico by other teenage guests who couldn't believe that a black kid took vacations. I'm looking forward to Asia and on the bright side, between his dark skin and my blonde hair we won't lose each other in a crowd.....MY BIGGEST FEAR!
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Apr 20th, 2005, 07:44 AM
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Guenmai, my fiance' and I are travelling to Bali in November 2005 for our Honeymoon. We are both African American in our early 30s. We are intriqued by the beauty of the island and can't wait to visit. Are there any restaurants or any other areas of the island that you would consider 'must see'? We will be in Bali for 9 days total and want to relax from the stress of wedding planning, but also want to explore the island and all the beauty that is within. We will be staying at the Bale' and the Legian. You seem to be so well travelled and I wanted your expert opinion as an African American who has visited Bali. Looking forward to your reply.
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Apr 20th, 2005, 10:41 AM
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To Tinlizzy...yes there are definetly racial problems out there in the world...the comment that someone made to you about not believing that Black kids took vacations...well...I've heard that one many times before, but it's usually the comment that Black Americans don't take vacations...someone in the loneyplanet.com made that comment last year because he has never come across any Black Americans at his $5-$10 a night hotels...well...that could be the reason...plus the fact that Black Americans could very well be vacationing in other locations like the Bahia region of Brazil and West Africa and other parts of Africa and the Carribean...along with other destinations in the world. So, I TOTALLY understand what you are talking about. Got to go. Happy Travels!
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Apr 20th, 2005, 01:06 PM
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To-Excited for PR-Congratulations on your upcoming honeymoon.You have chosen a great place to travel to. BAli is magical. As for restaurants, I didn't eat anywhere that was especially memorable as food was not that important to me on Bali...I'm a Thai food and Singaporean food fan. If I can get a hold of my best friend, I'll ask her. She goes to Bali regularly. As for being a Black American on Bali, I personally had no problems there. My best friend has been fine there too. So,you shouldn't worry about that and if anything does come up, just handle the situation firmly and swiftly and move on and don't let it ruin your honeymoon. I've been in some places with real obvious racial situations and vibes,and have lived to tell the stories, but Bali wasn't one of them...plus it's a place so into tourism until it's keep the tourists happy plus the Balinese are delightful people. So have a ball. I don't know how much you've traveled in the world, but for future trips I would definitely put the Bahia region of Brazil(the city of Salvador) and surrounding areas on your travel list-absolute paradise...gorgeous ocean, people,etc... and also Ghana, West Africa(English speaking). I was in Ghana in Dec 2003/Jan 2004 and Dec 2004/Jan 2005 and I love it. Last week, while at a luncheon of 40 given by my mom, a close family friend was at the luncheon and had just returned from a one-month cruise to several African countries and when I asked which one she'd return to, she answered,"Ghana". I know lots of folks who have been there and as far back as the 70s and from a Black American viewpoint all have loved it. Another friend just returned last month.I have also been in Tunisia and Morocco, but in the early 80s which was nice. I went alone to both Tunisia and Morocco and stayed a week in each...two different summers. But, my heart is in Ghana. If you have any travel questions, just page me here in the Asia forum. I'm here regularly. I'm seldom in the African forum as most travelers there seem to travel to expensive safari lodges in South Africa.I did, however, just finish helping a Canadian family plan a two-week trip to Ghana.We corresponded by private e-mail for over a five-month period (they had a lot of questions) and they e-mailed me several times from Ghana telling me of their experiences along the way.They are a very nice family. They got back last month. If you want to leave an e-mail address feel free.Happy Travels!
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Apr 20th, 2005, 01:06 PM
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OJudy...I will answer your Singapore shopping questions tomorrow. Happy Travels!
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Apr 20th, 2005, 01:29 PM
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Shopping on Orchard road - Designer shops some Japanese department stores. The touts will pester you to buy copy watches.
Hong Kong, Manila and BKK have far better shopping options all things considered.
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Apr 21st, 2005, 08:02 AM
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OJudy...As for the shopping in Singapore...It all depends on what you want to buy. I shop and I go to Singapore to buy certain things...and I'm not on Orchard Road. That's not the only place to shop.I've spent a lot of time in Singapore to find out where the merchandise that I'm interested in is. First, I'm into buying Indonesian batik...either the machine print...100% cotton type or the hand painted on silk type. For that, Bangkok is not a good place to buy it.I saw a piece of handpainted,Indonesian batik at River City Shopping Center in Bangkok and the owner wanted over $300 for it. I can get the same type of textile in Singapore for about $100 or a little more.I laughed and left the shop. I always find what I want in Singapore. Go to Arab Street and shop the small stores there. One excellent store is Toko Aljunied House of Batik at 95 Arab Street Tel..6294.6897. I bought an incredible piece of Indonesian, handpainted, sarong textile...2 meters for the sarong on Thai silk and the matching shawl...handpainted on Chinese silk. Thai silk holds up better for a sarong since it's stiffer. Chinese silk flows better as a shawl. These are things I can't find at home although I live in a big city. I like to buy different things. The store has it's own workshop in a villiage on Java in Indonesia and a big groups of villagers to do the handwork and the artist is commissioned...each piece taking up to 6 months to produce.The owners of this store are delightful to chat with as their family arrived to Singapore before Raffles so they know the history frontwards and backwards. I met the extended family.They also have very nice cotton batik that's made up into clothing or you can buy it buy the piece. I also like to buy alligator/crocodile items which cost a good 3-5 times more in the US than they do in Singapore. If you're into these items then take a taxi to Kaiyo Reptile Products at 14/16 Chang Charn Road tel.4190909. It's near Hoifhat Road. When you get there just tell them that you knew about the place so that the driver doesn't try to demand a commission. This is a huge crocodile/alligator warehouse with tons of items...handbags,wallets,etc...They also have leather and ostrich...I think it was.When you walk in, there are huge alligator/crocodile skins hanging on the wall so that you can see the different types. The more you buy the better the deal. Whatever price they quote you, just get out your calculator and knock off 30%. It's all in the bargaining technique.I've always gotten my price.In Singapore all items are stamped crocodile products. But there are three categories of crocodile...1)caiman 2)crocodile 3)alligator I prefer Mississippi Alligator. That's the gorgeous stuff. Caiman is an inexpensive crocodile product which is fine in wallets and small products...although I do have one handbag in it.The other place I love to shop at is Naga Arts and Antiques at 19 Tanglin Road #01-34 in the Tanglin Shopping Centre. Rose is the owner and gets lots of old pieces of handpainted,cotton batik out of small villages in Indonesia. Plus she has an eye for the Chinese-Indonesian pieces which I have never come across in Bangkok.They are very special. She has other great items,too. Plus the whole shopping center is great for Southeast Asian items. Also there's the Park Mall which is a center for interior design. It's directly behind the Dhoby Gaut MRT(Subway) station and next to the YMCA. If you are facing the mall, the store to your far left, on the end, has beautiful, handwoven Loatian textiles. I've got to go...Out of time...will continue later.....Happy Travels!
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Apr 21st, 2005, 08:39 AM
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Your daughter may like the maall at Bugis Junction, lots of fashionable clothers, just take the MRT there, across the road the old Bugis Street with night market. There are a lot of mall areas and we found the prices a lot lot cheaper than those around Orchard Road, though Robinsons opposite the Phoenix Hotel towards north end of Orchard Road had lots of Bargain area/special sale promotions etc.
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Apr 21st, 2005, 10:46 AM
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I agree with James A...I was just coming back to write about Bugis Junction...there are lots of stores for young people there and they have a very nice Kipling store with some items that we can't get in the US although we have Kipling stores here. Bugis Junction has an MRT(subway)station and a food mart in the basement plus it's only a 300 meter walk to Arab Street from there. And yes, Robinsons Department store is very good. It's at the Raffles City shopping center at the City Hall MRT(subway) stop and directly across from the Raffles Hotel...stop in at the Long Bar and have your Singapore sling and it's also across from the Chjimes complex where Lei Garden Chinese restaurant is and there's a very nice Vietnamese restuarant in there that has great fried bananas and drinks although the other food is so-so. I go for the fried bananas. Plus the other store that is quite good is Peter Hoe Evolution which is also in the Chjimes complex. I bought beautiful, inexpensive Cambodian scarves that I used as table runners...they are the same ones on the tables at the Vietnamese restaurant in Chjimes.I also bought them for friends and they loved them. Peter Hoe has a variety of items that can be creatively used.Also in the Chjimes complex is a very good money exchanger run by an Indian family that's been there for years...good rates and great service. It's at the entrance to Chjimes that's caddy-corner to the back side of Raffles and across from Robinsons Dept.store. And then there is my favorite...British India clothing store in Raffles City Shopping Center along with other locations around town. It looks like a Banana Republic when you walk in, but the similarity stops there. It's beautiful,colonial and Indian inspired clothes in linen and cottons with that Catherine De Neuve look in the movie Indochine. They are also in Bangkok, but a VERY small selection and hidden in a small department within the big department stores. Singapore has big,free-standing British India stores. The Raffles City Shopping Center has another part to it which is called City Link and is built underground. When you come out of the MRT station go up the escalator to enter the mall and then back down the escalator if you want to go to the City Link section which is very nice,too.Well, that's all that I can think of now. Hope this has helped the... to Singapore shoppers. If I think of more, I'll post. Happy Travels!
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Apr 21st, 2005, 10:52 AM
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There is another Mall and I just cannot remember the name of the MRT, maybe someone knows it, it is at the MRT which you use to near to the place where you get the shuttle bus to Sentosa, they had masses of bargain but also good stuff which we found reasonable, but Bugis Junction is a nice area and easy to get to.
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Apr 21st, 2005, 12:46 PM
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James A...It doesn't ring a bell in my mind yet. But maybe it'll hit me. Happy Travels!
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