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live42day Jun 20th, 2010 11:26 AM

Is it Lao or Laos
 
There seems to be some controversy on how to pronounce Lao, with or with out the 's'

I know that the French changed it in 1893 to Laos from Lao, but what is the current and proper way for visitors to pronounce it, from those who have been there ?

dogster Jun 20th, 2010 11:47 AM

Spell it 'Laos'

pronounce it 'Lao' .. L'Owwww

live42day Jun 20th, 2010 11:57 AM

Okay, thanks Dogster, that is what I thought but then read that you pronounce is Louse, so thanks for clarifying.

MichaelBKK Jun 21st, 2010 06:16 AM

Laos is pronounced Laos. Lao is pronounced Lao. The Lao people live in Laos. Two different words, with different meanings in different contexts.

live42day Jun 21st, 2010 10:43 AM

okay, two different answers, back to the drawing board.......

Smeagol Jun 21st, 2010 10:59 AM

I actualy thought the same as Michael that it was Laos (pronounced Lowse) for the country and Lao (pronounced L'Owww) as per Dogster said for the people etc

Marija Jun 21st, 2010 11:07 AM

Are you speaking English or Lao?

dogster Jun 21st, 2010 12:44 PM

lol lol lol - I shoulda known better...

Hanuman Jun 21st, 2010 03:58 PM

The Thai language is similar to Lao and the Thai and Laotian can understand each other when speaking the native languages of each country. We call both the country Lao and the people Lao as well.

I could not find, from google, a sound file with the correct pronunciation but I did find this Laotian music video. Listen carefully around the 27 - 28 second counter and you can hear the proper way to say Lao from a Laotian.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QisiE...eature=related

Hanuman Jun 21st, 2010 04:00 PM

Or listen to the opening speech of the recent SEA game in Vientiane and that note of the way they say Lao: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYHWD...eature=related

live42day Jun 21st, 2010 08:17 PM

Now you see why I asked the question.

downunderjack Jun 21st, 2010 10:15 PM

Prima Donna is picky over who is seething and who isn't,typical

lcuy Jun 21st, 2010 10:33 PM

I understand the Lao people call both their country and themselves "Lao", and that they don't , say "Laos" because a) they have no final "s" sound in their language, and b) they feel Laos is a colonial hangover.

I just checked Wikipedia, and they say that the country was originally three Laotian kingdoms, so the French called it Laos as a plural.

Cicerone Jun 22nd, 2010 01:19 AM

I am guessing from the website for the Lao Embassy in the US at http://www.laoembassy.com/ that even they don’t know which they prefer, as both terms are used on the website. There seems to be a slight preference for “Lao” on the website, as it appears more often; but “Laos” also appears, esp. to describe the country geographically (i.e. ”Map of Laos” the “people of Laos”).

I also believe that whatever term we use in an English approximation of the actual Laotian language term, and so is not exact anyway.

In my experience, the Laotian people would not be offended by whatever term you use, and even if they were, would not dream of embarrassing you by correcting you. That would be a greater offense than whatever term you might use incorrectly.

live42day Jun 22nd, 2010 11:02 AM

THanks everyone.

live42day Jun 22nd, 2010 11:03 AM

Not sure what the comment made by downunderjack is all about?
Can you expand on that thought Jack?

melissa62 Dec 14th, 2015 12:16 AM

I asked the staff at the Ethnicity Museum in Luang Prabang about the correct pronunciation. I figured that if anyone knew, it would be them. They said that the country is Loas (with the 's') and the people are Lao.

PhiMeow Dec 14th, 2015 02:24 AM

@melissa62 - the Eth Museum staff is both right and wrong. In English, the country is spelled 'Laos' but the people in Laos call their own country 'Lao'

As Hanumans posted previously, the Lao people call their country Lao (mid tone).

If you want to hear how Lao is pronounced, go to http://laolanguage.vislao.com/basic_...l/personal.htm and play the sound snippets "How long have you been in Laos?" and "I have been in Lao for two months" and you can hear the word Lao, with no 's'.

khunwilko Dec 15th, 2015 05:08 PM

It really depends on what language you are speaking
e.g - French call themselves "Francais" - so have they got it wrong?

Some things about English...there are various versions and accompanying pronunciations and stresses.

E.G. British English and American English to name but two.
The next thing you need to bear in mind is that there is no GOVERNMENT CONTROL of English.....it comes from the people.

add to this that Laos is a small country that relatively few English speakers have ever herd of let alone needed to speak of, which leaves the pronunciation relatively open to variation.

I use "low" - to describe country, people and Language. I would spell the country "LAOS" and the other two LAO....however that still leaves LAOTIAN - i would say "low-shun". I have lived and worked in Laos and these pronunciations seem to communicate without any difficulty. In most Lao people I worked with don't seem to recognise the word "Laotian" at all.

It is worth remembering that in English we seldom use the names of any country, language and people in the same way their inhabitants do.

mareeS55 Dec 16th, 2015 08:58 PM

We're just home from Laos (correct spelling) two days ago. The pronunciation is "Lao" for the country, the Lao people, Beer Lao and the local moonshine, lao lao.


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