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Is $199 US fair price Bangkok-Phuket-Bangkok?

Is $199 US fair price Bangkok-Phuket-Bangkok?

Old Mar 14th, 2007, 03:23 PM
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Is $199 US fair price Bangkok-Phuket-Bangkok?

This is a Thai flight in early December. Unfortunately, our luggage (for a 4 week trip with lots of camera gear) makes it impossible to use the discount carriers but I still would like to get the most favorable price.
Any trustworthy discount websites for Thai flights?
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Old Mar 14th, 2007, 03:37 PM
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you could try eddie at sea tours in bkk, but usually his in country flights are not cheaper:

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tell him about the luggage situation...
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Old Mar 14th, 2007, 03:59 PM
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That sounds like full fare price. If you have another flight to take within Thailand, then there is a Discover Thailand pass that covers 3 domestic flights for $169.00 plus tax for that, and if you add other flights within Thailand they are $59.00 each plus tax.

Otherwise, Thai Air does offer discounts, but not usually this far out from travel dates. Their luggage limits are outlined here http://www.thaiair.com/Travel_Destin...%20to%20check? Note that if you fly economy class and do not have any elite status, you are limited to 20 kg per passenger, or 30 kg per passenger if you fly Royal Orchid Executive Class.

You might look at Nok Air and flying Nok Plus, which allows 30 kg per person of luggage and is less expensive than economy on Thai. Bangkok Airways also allows 20 kg of luggage.

Round Trip prices for 2 adults including tax and surcharges:
Thai Air economy with 20 kg luggage allowance per person THB 16320
Thai Air Executive with 30 kg luggage allowance per person THB 18320
Nok Plus with 30 kg luggage allowance per person THB 7422
Bangkok air with 20 kg allowance per person THB 12000

Nok Air seems best to me...you won't be able to book for December on Nok Air for a while yet...bookings are available until September right now. In a few months you should be able to book for December. I wouldn't worry about price/availability on the others as the prices you are getting now are full fare and should be available in a few months time as well.
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Old Mar 14th, 2007, 04:05 PM
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You could fly Nok Air (Thai Airline owned) and if you take the nok plus category the baggage allowance is 30kg. Cost would be 3706 baht (105us) net return. Thai airlines baggage allowance is 20kgs I think.
The only problem is that they will be flying out of the old airport.
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Old Mar 15th, 2007, 06:42 AM
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For a few dollars more than that price, you can get business class on Thai. That gives you extra luggage allowance as well as the other perks associated with business class.

Eddies usually books my intra-Asia tickets. I let him know exactly what I want (fully refundable and changeable or the cheapest available).
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Old Mar 15th, 2007, 07:22 AM
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Thai Business Class and Nok Air borth give you 30 kgs per person, when you say a lot of baggage how much are you talking about ?
For 2 of you that's 60 kgs ( I guess roughly something like 120-130 pounds, sothething like that ), excess very roughly USD 1.4 a kg, although Nok Air would no doubt be strict on the 60 kgs Thai would be more flexible and they probably will not mention anything up to 35 kgs per person or a little more, so you only need to think about this if you really have more than that.
The Nok Air Plus is only about B 535 ( about USD 15 ) per sector per person extra so is a bargain for a budget flight, 737s with 2x2 seating, ( they use ex Thai 737s and kept the Business Class seating ) about 38 ins pitch, so that's a good deal.

http://www.nokair.com/s1000_obj/fron...content_id=142
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Old Mar 16th, 2007, 05:26 AM
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As the others have said, Thai Airways charges alot for the BKK-HKT sector for extra baggage which will probably happen to us..unless we buy a business ticket.
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Old Mar 16th, 2007, 06:01 AM
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The price I was quoting was from Eddie at Seatours on Thai economy (and this is the only domestic flight we'll take in Thailand). It seemed high to me, hence my question.
Nok Business class from your posts seems a better option if they are reliable. Are they??? What if you need to make a change or miss your connection due to massive delays?
I also had heard Nok Air is more prone to cancellations. (I once had a bad experience with EasyJet, they cancelled a flight and rebooked me at a time that would cause me to miss my on ward connection and the internet site would not allow me to rebook on the flight I could use. So I cancelled the flight they reassigned to me and noted their claim that I could cancel their rebooking and get refund; I cancelled, made a new booking on the flight I wanted and spent a year trying to get a refund, to no avail. I did learn I should charge internet tickets on AE). Sorry, for the long digression.
So, we arrive in Bangkok from USA at 6:40 am and hope to take a 10 or 10:30 am flight on to Phuket (staying at MomTri's thanks to you all), Eddie thougth that was ample time. Yes?
Your posts are making me think more carefully/realistically about our luggage. You're right, we won't exceed 44 lbs each. What I was remembering was the lack of cabin space for my camera gear and personal items on the domestic Vietnam flights last year. The overlead space and under seat space were very small and I had to beg attendants to store my camera backpack in the rear of the cabin rather than throw it in to the cargo hold.
So I should wait until June or July to book? Any additional thoughts?

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Old Mar 16th, 2007, 07:02 AM
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Nok is owned by Thai air and is a fairly reliable discount airline. You can change flights for about a $1 but like any discount airline it takes time to get a refund if you cancel.

Note that nok will be operating out of the old airport so you will have to get there by taxi. It should take about an hour or slightly more and will cost around 350-400 baht plus expressway tolls of 100 baht.

Nok has a flight out at 9.55 which could be made if everything went smoothly and on time. The next flight is at 13.25
From the new airport Thai has a flight at 14.05 and from the old at 10.05 and 11.40. Thai is transferring most of their domestic flights back to the old airport and only keeping those that will tie directly in with their international flights.

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Old Mar 16th, 2007, 08:04 AM
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You are going to LOVE Mom Tri..we did!!
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Old Mar 16th, 2007, 08:27 AM
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The difference in baggage allowance on Thai between Coach/Economy and Business Class is 10 kgs, so it is not worth getting a business class tovcket for that, the excess baggage charge on 10kgs is cewrtanlt welless than the difference between Economy/coach and business fare.

Currently flights from BKK to Phuket on Thai would be 747-400, 777 or A 300/330 which are all wide bodied aircraft so you should be ok, depends just how big this camera equipment is (?)

Try this, it should not cost you a cent to book Thai domestic flights now, you should not have to confirm or pay for them until well thru the year, so why not book a convenient, say 0900/1000, hold those seats and decide later.

Which airline are you arriving into Bangkok on ? certain airlines can thru baggage/check you onto Thai to Phuket.
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Old Mar 16th, 2007, 05:35 PM
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We are flying Thai from LAX to BKK, Business Class (hoorah for ff miles!) so perhaps we could get the luggage checked all the way to Phuket IF we are certain we wil leave from the new international airport for the Phuket flight.
I will go ahead and book a flight on Thai (thanks for the idea) since there's no reason not to.
Camera gear is one digital Minolta 35mm camera (+ extra batteries, charger, mem cards), 2 lenses (24-80 & 70-300), a 35mm SLR that uses the same lenses, usually about 30-36 rolls of slide film, lots of batteries and cleaning stuff. I'm a serious amateur photographer who uses the digital for snapshots and slides for candid portraits.
As far as the discovery pass, when I checked on it a while back, I believe it is not available in peak season.
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Old Mar 16th, 2007, 06:05 PM
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Discover Thailand Pass is available all the time, but only through the 2007 calendar year...there is a new price every year. H booking class seats must be available to use the pass. It is only for economy class.
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Old Mar 16th, 2007, 09:15 PM
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If you are flying Thai from LAX they can check you thru to Phuket ( unless something changes ), the 0900 BKK-Phuket is a 'prime' connecting flight from inbounds, Thai plan to ( although still somewhat confusing ) certain flights from Suvarnabhumi and it could all be from there come december, who knows! Anyway that 0900 is a main connection flight and I think it's a 747-400, you probably have a 'very' high chance of being upgraded as you are coming from LAX, they might not upgrade at LAX but once they sort out seating in BKK I should think Business class transit pasaengers should put you in a good position to find yourself in Business Class.
For ewhat it's worth, longhaul from LAX, flying Business, hey, I would just book with Thai in LAX and not have the hassle of connecting to a budget carrier or worrying about changing airports whatever, I honestly would just pay the Thai fare, you don't need a return with them but again, if you are connecting out of bangkok I would go with Thai, you won't have any worries with your camera stuff, good chance of upgrade anyway.
Get yourself enrolled in Royal orchid program 'now', doesn't matter if you won't pick up milage using ff for your flight from LAX, enrol anyway so that you can add that number to your LAX-BKK-HKT ( Phuket ) routing and that will show up on their screens also adding to upgrade chance BKK-HKT.
Call Thai in LAX id that is your nearest, aslo ask them about 'M' fare class on BKK-HKT, I don't know if they are still using that from your side but that was a 3 month return as opposed to Y which was longer, anyway call them and ask and get that Phuket sector added into your total booking, then you can just relax.......
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Old Mar 16th, 2007, 09:25 PM
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That is a whole load of slide film, I haven't bought it here, maybe someone else has, as a guideline though a standard 35mm x 36 exp films is about USD 3.60 Kodak ( usually Australia manufactured ) /Fuji ( Japan manufactured ), so considor that before bringing a whole load with you, I can't even comment on slide film availability but there are some good camera shops in Patong ( Phuket )who certainly 'should' stock, I will try and check local price when out next or you could do a thread here and ask if anyone has bought slide film recently.

You might also want to check on the ff for mileage needed LAX-HKT as opposed to what you have LAX-BKK, had you thought about using miles for the Phuket sector, it is certainly at least worth the time on a toll free call to ask Thai, you never know your luck !
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Old Mar 18th, 2007, 09:34 PM
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Thanks for your ideas Kim and James. I will check with Thai. United told me they would only book to Bkk but I'll call again; different reps have different answers.
As for slide film, I'm running low on Velvia 50 and would like whatever film is closest in character to V 50. If you can get any info on that James, that would be great. The idea of not carrying all that film (and having it hand checked at each airport) is exciting!
I' now thinkging that flying Thai to Phuket will be the smoothest and Thai may take more responsibility for my connections.
And docgirl, I can hardly wait to get to Mom Tri's.
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Old Mar 19th, 2007, 02:11 AM
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What would be a Kodak equivelent to V50 ( sorry that doesn't register with me ), we are don the coast at the moment so not near any ophoto places.
Why not do a short seperate post and title 'Cost slide film Thailand' and maybe someone else who has bought slide film will know.
I am no ff expert, but you could always call Thai and ask them how many miles for a BKK-HKT !
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Old Mar 20th, 2007, 10:36 AM
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I took James's advise and booked a reservation with Thai (economy ticekt $216rt!). You must fly 3 legs to buy the Discovery Thailand pass so that didn't work.
I got my ff miles to fly Thai air from United. They charge $100 fee to change and am awaiting an answer if they will reticket me. I'll keep you posted.
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Old Mar 25th, 2007, 07:52 AM
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im not surpirsed you got a very high price from seatours as I've been trying to argue for years on this site. seatours is not a good place to get cheap ticks, for one thing they are specialists in SEA tours, as in cruises. not airfares.

olavi seems to specialize in discount airfare.
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Old Mar 25th, 2007, 07:20 PM
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orgy...where have you been??
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