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Old Apr 21st, 2007, 07:36 AM
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Getting Around Hong Kong

Hello everyone! I'm working on my family's itinerary for November and would appreciate some help on questions I have on getting around HK.
1. How long does the bus ride to Ocean Park take?
2. How do I get to Stanley from Ocean Park?
3. Does Bus No.6 from Central to Stanley take the same route from Stanley back to Central?
4. What is the schedule of Bus No. 6 from Stanley back to Central?
5. If I were on the Midlevel Escalators, where do I get off if I wanted to go to Victoria Peak?
6. Is there anywhere I can buy fruits near Cannon Road at Causeway Bay?

Hope to hear from you soon!
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1. How long does the bus ride to Ocean Park take?

Well that depends on where you are starting from, but if you start in Central probably half an hour, more or less depending on the time of the day.

2. How do I get to Stanley from Ocean Park?

Buses running along the south side of the Island are comparatively rare; you will probably have to change buses somewhere, possibly near the Aberdeen tunnel.

3. Does Bus No.6 from Central to Stanley take the same route from Stanley back to Central?

Almost certainly, except in the central area where it may be affected by one way streets

5. If I were on the Midlevel Escalators, where do I get off if I wanted to go to Victoria Peak?

As the Irish would say, “if I wanted to go to Victoria Peak” I wouldn’t start from there. But you could get a taxi from anywhere.
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Old Apr 21st, 2007, 08:57 AM
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1. Bus 629 from Admiralty MTR. Every 10-15 minutes, takes 25 minutes. Or green public light bus #6 from Central Pier.

2. There's no direct public transportation between Ocean Park and Stanley. You have to walk from the main entrance of Ocean Park to the bus stop on Wang Chuk Hang Road, then take 6A, 6X or 260.

3. Yes. 6 goes over Wong Nai Chung Gap. 6A, 6X and 260 takes the tunnel and go past Ocean Park and Deep Water Bay. Those are the two different routes.

4. 6 runs every 15 minutes, and takes about 55 minutes. www.citybus.com.hk

5. Do you mean you want to hike up to the Peak? First keep in mind that it runs downhill from 6-10am, and uphill 10:30am till midnight. Don't go too early.

If you want to then hike up to the Peak, ride the escalators all the way to the top, which drops you off on Conduit Road (where I used to live). Go east (flat) on Conduit Road, then take Hornsey Road (flat) at the end Conduit Road. Hornsey Road ends at Old Peak Road, which is then all very steep uphill to the Peak.

6. Can't tell you where exactly, but you should find plenty of small fruit stores all around town. Or you can go to one of the two major supermarket chains - Wellcome and Park'n Shop. Wellcome has a superstore on Great George St, which is just to the east of Cannon St in the heart of Causeway Bay.
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Old Apr 21st, 2007, 09:03 AM
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Oh, if you don't want to walk up to the Peak on Old Peak Road, here's another way:

At the end of Hornsey Road, walk up Old Peak Road for about 50 yards. You'll go under an old overpass - which is May Road. Take May Road going east, and you'll come to the Peak Tram path.

<b>Caution!!!</b> The Peak Tram hits its highest gradient at May Road, at around 48%. It's <b>not easy</b> to get on and off there because of the angle, and also because the cars are not entirely still. If you have mobility problem, do not try this.
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Old Apr 21st, 2007, 09:13 PM
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Thanks guys. I wanted to hit two birds with one stone and I thought of pairing-off Ocean Park and Stanley since they're both at the South side, and the midlevels and Victoria Peak as I thought they were somewhat in the same vicinity. I think we can work out Ocean Park in the morning and Stanley at around 4pm as we're just after the Bus No. 6 ride since I read it's an experience in itself. As for the midlevels and Victoria Peak, I don't know what to do after the 20minute climb up the escalators so I thought of going to Victoria Peak afterwards. Looks like we will just have to take the taxi to take us to the start of the Peak Tram. On the other hand, might there be other interesting things to do in the vicinity of the escalators?
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By the way, I will be moving around with my husband and 3 kids ages 5, 8 and 11 so any side trips would hopefully be something the young ones will also find enjoyable. That's why as much as I would like the challenge of the steep climb up the Peak on foot (used to do a lot of hiking during my younger days), the kids might all want to ride piggyback so I'll just have to take the easiest option. Thanks in advance for any suggestions you may have for my November family escapade in HK.
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The upper half of the escalators is all residential area. The interesting part is the lower half. It transects some of the older part of Central. Hollywood Road is famous for its antique stores and also the Man Mo Temple. Just above it is SoHo (South of Hollywood) with interesting restaurants.

But yes, you can take a taxi from Conduit Road or Robinson Road (2nd from top) to the Peak Tram station. 5 minute ride.

Or, get off at Robinson Road, walk east, and then walk through the Zoological and Botanical Gardens (which do have some animals and lots of birds), then get on the Peak Tram at the Macdonnell Road or Kennedy Road stops. Those are also intermediate stops - not easy to get on, but easier than at May Road. Or just walk down to the terminus.
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Old Apr 22nd, 2007, 05:19 AM
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One more thing rkkwan, the pictures you shared of the Chi Lin Nunnery at Diamond Hill made me want to include that in our itinerary. Around how long will the MTR ride from Causeway bay to Diamond Hill take?
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25 minutes, or a little more, with two cross-platform switches at North Point and Yau Tong.

You can find MTR/AE fare, schedule and station information on www.mtr.com.hk
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Old Apr 22nd, 2007, 06:43 AM
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I checked out the citibus website and am amazed at how well organized HK's transpo system is. Thanks!
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Old Apr 22nd, 2007, 07:09 AM
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note that the escalator only goes in one direction....at certain times of day it goes up and at other times it goes down....but never in both directions...
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Some random thoughts on things to do (and not do) with kids:

1. If you can, try NOT to go to Ocean Park on a Sunday, it will be far less crowded on a weekday and even a Saturday is less crowded. Stanley buses are also much less crowded on weekdays. (If you are here on a pubic holiday, then try to avoid Ocean Park and the Stanley bus on those days as well.) A pair of pandas were just given to Ocean Park by the PRC as part of the celebration of the 10th anniversary of Hong Kong’s reunification with the PRC, so the park is extra popular at the moment, another reason to avoid on Sunday if you can. Although Stanley and Ocean Park can easily be done together, Ocean Park is also quite close to the Aberdeen harbor area, where you could go to take a sampan ride around the little harbour and see people living on their boats.

2. Before or after you go on to the escalator, you might want to walk the narrow pedestrian street markets in the Graham Street and Peel Street which run uphill starting at Queens Road East. This are full of vegetable, fruit and meat stalls, incense sellers etc. There are shops which sells kites and some toys as well as paper offerings for funerals which might interest the kids. Lots of local life and color. Fast-disappearing in Hong Kong. Pottinger Street has lots of tiny stalls selling wigs, Halloween costumes, leather strings, hair clips and costume jewelry, this tiny ladder-like street might interest your kids as it is fun of colorful and there is stuff they could buy. You can also walk up these streets to a cross street like Hollywood Road and then get on the escalator.

3. Get off the escalator at Hollywood Road and walk down to the Man Mo temple and go inside, it is full of incense and atmosphere. Across the street and down the stairs is the Cat Street and Ladder Street “antique” market, again this has lots of inexpensive stuff which might interest your kids (little red Mao books, Chinese coins, “jade” jewelry, just lots of stuff). In the opposite direction down Hollywood you can walk to the old Governor’s mansion (closed to visitors but still an interesting building) and above that there is a small park with a small zoo. (The latter is not really a detour from the escalator, as it’s a bit of a walk from it; I would do this when you are done with the escalator trip.)

4. There are many places to get off the escalator and stop for a coffee and juice, there are restaurants along the escalator and several dozen in the Elgin Street and Staunton Street area. These streets also have lots of little boutiques; may not interest your kids as much as you; at the intersection of Staunton and Peel (on the right as you walk down Staunton from the escalator), is a tiny temple built into the stairs with the incense coils and lots of charm IMO).

5. Hong Kong Park in Pacific Place has a very nice outdoor aviary and is a nice green space. This is at the base of the Peak Tram station in Central, so is convenient before or after a tram ride. There is also a small Teaware museum here, not sure if that would interest the kids but it may.

6. While a walk up to Victoria Peak is challenging, especially for kids, IMO, a walk DOWN may not be so bad, especially in the great November weather. This is not really combinable with a journey up the escalator trip obviously. I can post some instructions if you are interested in walking down from the Peak Tram area to Central. (You could even walk to the Aberdeen floating restaurant area, or to quite close and then taxi to the restaurants.) Note that the Peak Tram goes to Victoria Gap, not the actual Peak, if you want a walk, once you take the Tram to Victoria Gap, there is a good flat walk around Lugard Road/Harlech Road which takes about an hour and which offers good views; you can also walk up to the actual Peak itself via Mt Austin Road in about 20-30 minutes (a stiff but not too difficult walk). There are also several excellent walks around the Peak area, check my posts called “Cicerone’s Reccos for What the Locals Do for Fun in Hong Kong (Hint: We DON’T Go to those Awful Night Markets....)” and “Cicerone’s Favourite Hong Kong Walks II: Paradise Found! From Happy Valley to Stanley in High Heels! (Almost) The Tsz Lo Lan Shan Path”. The boat trip out to see pink dolphins, which I think I mention in one of those posts, would be something I think your children would enjoy.



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Those are very useful pointers, especially the details about what the kids might find appealing. Also, I WAS planning to go to Ocean Park on Sunday! I was thinking since the day after Sunday is a working day, more people might like to go on a Saturday rather than on Sunday. But now, I'm thinking of going on Monday instead! Our flight is at 7:45pm on Monday. You think Ocean Park Monday morning will be ok then? There would definitely be less people on Monday than on the weekend so we will be able to make the most of our time there and probably be able to leave by 3:30, make it back to Causeway bay by 4:30 to get our lugguage, take AE and arrive at the airport by 5:30. How's that?
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Ok so here's the plan (revised for the Nth time):
Day 1 (Fri)
ETA HK 10am, probably be at Alisan guesthouse at Causeway Bay by 12nn.
Around 1pm, off to Repulse Bay and Stanley. At Victoria Peak tram station by 4:30 to have about 1 hour of daylight for walking around before having dinner there. IUO, will 3.5 hours roundtrip from Causeway Bay travel time and strolling included be enough? We don't intend to shop and just want the view from the bus, some pics w/ Kwun Yum and Tin Hau, and snacks at the Murray House. We'll just take the taxi back in order to hasten our pace back.

Day 3 (Sat)
8:30 - 10:30am Tram around town
10:30am Midlevel escalators and surrounding areas, lunch around vicinity
2pm - 4pm Botanical &amp; Zoological Gardens, Hong Kong Park
4pm Onwards - windowshopping


Day 3 (Sun)
Head-off via ferry to Lantau Island for Ngong Ping 360 (What's the best time to board ferry if we want to take the first trip of Ngong Ping 360?) Take Tung Chung MTR, at TST by 2pm to visit Science and Space museum. Have dinner somewhere at Kowloon.

Day 4 (Monday)
9am - Leave Causeway Bay for Ocean Park
10am-4pm Ocean Park!
4-5 Trip back to Guesthouse, pick-up lugguage
6pm At airport
7:45pm Bye!

How's that?
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The only place worse than Ocean Park on a Sunday is going to be the cable car line for Ngong Ping....fortunately, you can make a reservation for a specific cable car time for Ngong Ping. Take a look at http://www.np360.com.hk/html/eng. I would STRONGLY suggest that you do this, otherwise on a Sunday you could be waiting an hour or even more for a cable car up. Sundays are a total family day here, Saturdays are for shopping and many people work a half day or more on Saturdays as well, that is why Sundays are the day for outings. (Until about 3 months ago, all government offices were open on Saturdays as well.) Also, all the 296,000 foreign maids in town only have Sunday off, and they head for those places as well.

I would NOT suggest you take the ferry to Ngong Ping, take the MTR. You can take the ferry back if you want to (but with your schedule I would suggest you take the MTR back or you won’t make your 2 pm deadline IMO). The ferry will take you much longer, and won’t even bring you close to the cable car, you would have to take a bus or taxi from the ferry terminal to the cable car. Take the MTR to the Tung Chung and you can walk to the entrance to the cable car in a minute or two. If you wanted to skip the museums in the afternoon, then an afternoon walking on Lantau, a visit to one of the fishing villages, and the ferry ride back would be a great day, IMO, esp in November which is just about the finest weather month we have.

I think your first day is a little ambitious. Not sure you will get to the Peak by the time it is still light. While seeing it at night is great, seeing it during the day as well makes you appreciate the huge size of the harbour. I also think your kids will be dragging quite a bit on the first day, and having them stay up and out for dinner at that point may have them falling asleep at the table. You may want to try to stay near the hotel the first night. Take a look at sunrisesunst.com for sunset timings.

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Yes, if you're in such a hurry, don't ride the ferry to Lantau. Just do MTR to Tung Chung and then do the cable car roundtrip. The ferry/bus route will take significantly longer.

Say you take a 9am ferry. You get to Mui Wo at 9:45, arrive bus at Po Lin Monastery 10:30 or 11. Spend about an hour up there. Cable car down at 12, MTR back to Kowloon by around 1:15. That's the fastest you can do it, without doing lunch at the monastery.
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Ok. So how's this:
Day 1 (Fri)
- Repulse Bay and Stanley
Day 2 (Saturday)
- 9am depart Causeway Bay via MTR
for Ngong Ping 360 ride at 10am
Lunch back at HK Island
- Around 1:30, explore HK via Tram
Around 4, go up Victoria Peak,
Day 3 (Sunday)
- 7:00-8:30am Botanical &amp; Zoological Gardens
- 8:30-11:30 Explore vicinity around escalators (Is 3 hours too much time around this area with the kids? Maybe we can shorten this to 2 hours and move take-off 1 hour later for Botanical &amp; Zoological Gardens - 8am instead of 7am?)
- 11:30-12:30 lunch around the area (somewhere reasonably priced)
- 1-5pm explore Space, &amp; Science Museums (Add Museum of History if we finish Space &amp; Science earlier than 5)
- back at HK Island by 6 for windowshopping and dinner
Day 4 (Monday)
9am - Depart from Causeway bay for Ocean Park opening at 10
3:30 - Depart Ocean Park
4:30 - Depart Causeway Bay for Airport (taxi fr Causeway Bay to AE HK Terminal, AE to Airport)
5:30 - ETA Airport

I hope you don't mind all the details. I'd feel more comfortable if I know exactly what to do so I don't waste time, especially since I have 3kids (ages 5, 8 &amp; 11) tagging along.
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Or maybe this?
Day 1 (Friday)
- B&amp;Z Gardens, HK Park, The Peak
Day 2 (Saturday)
- am - Ngong Ping 360
- pm - Space, Science, History Museum
Day 3 (Sunday)
- am - At Repulse Bay by 8:30am, Stanley by 9:30am, out of there by 10:30, back at Causeway bay by 11:30 for lunch
- pm - Tram around town and escalators, free time around HK
Day 4 (Monday)
- Ocean Park -
- Airport by 5:30 for flight out at 7:45.

BTW, Cicerone, I checked out your post way back regarding the walks and found so many interesting things to do including, to my husband's delight, websites for the second hand shops! We will try to see as much as we can of these beautiful little places on our free time around HK on Sunday afternoon. Thanks!
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I think you're simply overplanning.

The two most consuming parts of your itinerary are:

- Ocean Park
- Ngong Ping 360

Don't do those on the last day, and don't do those on weekends (especially Sunday). Then just plug the other parts into it when you get to Hong Kong. I really don't see a need to write out a rigid itinerary like that for Hong Kong.
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Yes I suppose I'll have to just schedule those two and then play everything else by ear. Unfortunately, since we will get settled in HK on a Friday at around 12nn and depart on a 7:45 flight on Monday, it's a toss-up between Ocean Park on Saturday and Ngong Ping on Monday or vice versa. Unless, Ngong Ping on the Friday afternoon on the day of our arrival is ok. With the little kids around, I don't plan on walking around much at Ngong Ping Village. It's really more the cable car ride and the spectacular view that everyone's been raving about that we're after. Perhaps 1 hour will do just to see the giant Buddha and the buddhist temple. In that case, maybe we can take the 1pm cable car (we expect to arrive at HK airport at 10am) and finish Ngong Ping with enough time to be at HK Island by 4 so we can take the tram around town. As for Ocean Park, if we're more into looking at the animals and shows at Ocean Park and not much into riding the rides (I think I'd get wobbly knees after getting spun around in any of the rides), perhaps we can manage with 5.5 hours (10am-3:30pm)on our last day, Monday at Ocean Park? We will check-in our lugguage at AE Central Station at around 8am (how long does check-in at AE station take?)so we can save time at the airport. Thanks so much for all the help!
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