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Bob, Kathy, James and anyone, BK, HK & Bali or HK, SIN & Bali?

Bob, Kathy, James and anyone, BK, HK & Bali or HK, SIN & Bali?

Feb 7th, 2006, 05:36 PM
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Bob,Craig,Kathie,Cicerone,& glorialf, marmot,

Many thanks for your kind advise. We have two options to chose from: August or the end of Nov to mid December. about 20 days total (including the traveling time), I thought 16 days staying at the hotel would be enough. I told my husband about all of your comments and he asked "HOW MUCH IS GOING TO COST HIM" LOL. When is the raining season in Bali? I'm not sure if we should go to HK (it might be too fast pace for us?? Maybe, Fly into Singapore (3days), go to BKK 3 or 4 days and then fly to Bali from BKK, and fly back from Bali to DFW, From DFW to LAX to HKK to SIN, SIN to BKK and BKK to Bali. If we chose this route, we will need one way ticket from SIN to BKK and then BKK to Bali? OR DFW to LAX to HKK to BKK first, and then BKK to SIN and SIN to Bali? Can we fly from SIN to Bali? Oh my confusing, sorry I'm not good at this.
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Feb 7th, 2006, 05:39 PM
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I'd pick Hong Kong over Singapore.
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Feb 7th, 2006, 06:02 PM
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Well, if your choice is BKK, SIN and Bali, plan to fly into BKK, fly to Bali (Thai Air), then to SIN (Singapore Air)and then home.
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Feb 7th, 2006, 06:17 PM
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Kathie i realise this. Its an aussie point of view thats all.
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Feb 7th, 2006, 06:18 PM
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Cathay flies a triangle between HKG, SIN, and BKK. To get to SIN from HKG you could fly non-stop or you could go via BKK. To get to Bali (DPS) you would fly from HKG.

How many stopovers are you allowed on an award ticket? Are you allowed one or more stopovers AND an open-jaw?

Assuming that you are only allowed ONE stopover OR an open jaw an an award ticket, then you would need two tickets:

Award 1, roundtrip DFW-DPS with a stopover in HKG
Award 2, roundtrip HKG-SIN with a stopover in BKK
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Feb 7th, 2006, 06:40 PM
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Hmm, I don't think this will be a tough choice for you, but this is what I can tell you. August is very good for Bali for beach lovers, practically no rain. It's pretty hot and a bit rainy in Bangkok in August, but not the worst time of year there. Singapore has basically the same weather all year with a bit more rain from November March so August is probably better (November is not bad, the really bad months are December and January).

I have to say that I hate Hong Kong in August (and I live here), but LOVE it in November. In August, not only is it too friggin hot and way too humid, but it is typhoon season so you can (and we have had) rain for days on end, not to mention typhoons where you are stuck in your house.

In November, however, Hong Kong is glorious, sunny and 75 F, no rain, no humidity. Great weather for walking/hiking, everything. It's the weather we wait for all year. Bangkok is also quite nice then also, rainfall is pretty low, temps are good. However, in November in Bali it will be a bit rainy, not the true rainy season, but more rain than in August which if you see on weatherbase.com has virtually no rain. My guess is that rain in Bangkok in August is not an issue for you 'cause you are going to see your Dad. So I am guessing you would prefer to go in August and do Bali, Bangkok and Singapore and skip Hong Kong and (hopefully) see Hong Kong at a better time of year. (P.S., it's not too fast paced, it's whatever you want it to be).

There are no particular festivals in August or November in any country you are considering (others chime in if I have missed something) that would sway me; I think the weather issue in Bali is the more decisive factor. Divali (the Hindu New Year) is celebrated in Singapore generally in November, but the celebrations are not that major and frankly are not celebrated in a way that is as interesting as something like Thaipusam.

Now what you might consider rather than actually staying in Singapore (or just spend a night there) is going up the east coast of Malaysia to the wonderful beaches there. These are great in August, not so in November at all. I can recco a few places, esp a place like Rawa island, which would be 2-3 hours by car or bus. Take a look at rawasfr.com. You could also consider places like Kuantan (IMO not quite as pretty) or even renting a car and driving all the way up the coast, which would require some more time but well worth the trip. Do some reading on the area.

Having had some experience with people coming to visit and their jet lag, my strong recco would be that you go first to Bangkok and use that as a place to first get over your jet lag. You've been there before and your main purpose is to see your Dad, not sight seeing, so you won't feel too rushed and IMO won't feel like you've "wasted" a day if for the first day or two you don't feel like doing much. When people are coming to Asia, I always encourage them to come to Hong Kong first, and then we travel on from there once they have had a chance to recover at my house and do sightseeing at a more relaxed pace, have dinner at home, etc. Looking at your flight schedules from DFW, I don't see any direct flights to Singapore, for example, so the thought of either getting up and going out sightseeing or getting on a bus and going on to the coast of Malaysia the morning after you arrive on a midnight flight from DFW that required two connections could be a bit daunting. You might find day flights from Bangkok or Denpassar to Singapore (or even to Johor Bahru, Kuantan or another point on the east coast of Malaysia) that would work better.


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Feb 7th, 2006, 06:55 PM
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clear---you thought you had a lot to think about before....now??????????

the southern visit in august looks best to me...

hong kong is not toooooo fast for you...it is among the best places to visit in asia....go another time and combine it with beijing or shanghai or just stay in HK for a week or so...there is tons to do....more than in bkk....it is more expensive however, but you can do it reasonably also
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Feb 7th, 2006, 07:19 PM
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If you skip HKG, then:

Award 1, open jaw DFW-BKK, DPS-DFW
Buy a ticket BKK-SIN-DPS

OR

Award 1, roundtrip DFW-SIN with a stopover at BKK outbound to SIN
Buy a roundtrip ticket SIN-DPS-
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Feb 7th, 2006, 07:21 PM
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as I was writing before the accidental post:

Buy a roundtrip ticket SIN-DPS-SIN and then return on the award ticket from SIN to DFW.
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Feb 8th, 2006, 01:03 AM
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Weatherwise, August is great in Bali. You may still get some rain (this is the tropics!) but it's comparably the driest month. The only downside to August is that it's a big Australian travel month and rates go up. (But as bhuty has so charmingly pointed out Australian arrivals are down this year so it may not be an issue.)

November is borderline for rain. This year there was very little rain in November. The rainy season starts officially in December whether you get a stretch of rainy days or sunny days is more a matter of luck as either is possible.

There are plenty of flights between Singapore and Denpasar. Denpasar to DFW is a loonnggg haul but is doable, with good connections through Hong Kong or Singapore on CX or SQ.
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Feb 8th, 2006, 03:15 AM
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What about doing Bali and Borobodour in and then add a few days in a city -- Bangkok of Hong Kong or Singapore (latter being least interesting in my opinion). August is fine for Indonesia.
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Feb 8th, 2006, 04:05 AM
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I agree that Borobudur would be a great adjunct. August is good weatherwise in Java, but I would point out that August 17 & 21 are national holidays and the weekend in between would not be a good time to visit Borobudur. (Okay for Bali, though)
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Feb 8th, 2006, 11:48 AM
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Thank you all very much, we have AA miles (enough for 2, 1st class tickets) which we can use Japan,Cathay or AA airline. I spoke with the AA rep, accoriding to him since Aug & Sept is the busiest month, if we want to go in Aug, we have to fly DFW on American non-stop flight to Tokoyo and then Tokoyo to BKK. We can come back from Bali to DFW. Do you think AA airline is good enought to fly all the way to Asia? Should we change the month to Ocotber so that we can fly on Cathy or Japan airline? here is the rough schedule: DFW-LAX,HKK to BKK , buy a roundtrip ticket from BKK to SIN and buy one way ticket from BKK to DPS Bali and Fly out from DPS (Bali) to DFW, Or how should I arrange the traveling/buying ticket? I want to visit, Singapore, Bangkok and Bali, thank you very much!!! Sorry for being slow.
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Feb 8th, 2006, 04:48 PM
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Feb 8th, 2006, 06:37 PM
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Coach is coach - that's what you're flying, right? Doesn't matter. AA's 777 isn't bad at all to NRT.

From NRT onwards, you'll be flying Japan Airlines to BKK and back from DPS. So you get to try JL on this trip as well.

While CX is a great airline, I wouldn't move my trip just because you get to fly their coach product.
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Feb 8th, 2006, 06:55 PM
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Instead of first class tickets, you might consider getting business class awards, esp. if you don't fly JAL across the Pacific. The JAL flight from DPS to NRT is a two-class aircraft, coach and business. At least it was 2-class two years ago and the business class was very nice on that flight. Check to make sure that the flight to BKK has first class.

Considering what Cicerone said about Hong Kong in August you might be better off travelling in October if you are stopping there.
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Feb 8th, 2006, 06:57 PM
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rkkwan,
We are flying 1ST CLASS, no matter which airline we choose. Currently if we want to go to SIN, BKK and Bali in August, only american airplane flight is available. So, we have to fly on American airline PLANE all the way to Singapore or Bangkok. My question is would it be better to change the trip to NOv or Dec, that way we can fly on Cathay or Japan airline. Any advise would be greatly appreciated!
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Feb 8th, 2006, 07:02 PM
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Oh, the OP did say 1st class. Forget my comment. Nevermind.

Anyways, I agree with others. Don't go to Hong Kong in August, unless you're planning to stay indoors the whole time. Which, I have to say, is possible if your intention is basically to eat and shop and sleep.
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Feb 8th, 2006, 07:14 PM
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I don't think that AA flies to BKK or SIN, do they? Maybe a codeshare but Cathay Pacific metal.
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Feb 8th, 2006, 07:26 PM
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i don't think it mekes any difference which one of those listed airlines....they are all good, but the asian one are best
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