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juliajane Sep 1st, 2016 05:00 AM

best singapore hotel
 
Hi,
spending 3 nights in March. Please tell me your pick for best hotel and why...right now thinking Ritz or mandarin oriental. Seems like these are in a great location. I would love to hear thoughts.
J

Kathie Sep 1st, 2016 06:53 AM

Singapore has so many hotel options! Personally, I think the hotel with the best location is the Fairmont. You are right on top of an MRT station! Proximity to the MRT is perhaps the most important location factor for me. But the Fairmont has the advantage of being right across the street from Raffles and above a major shopping center. I don't really like the location of Ritz or the MO. Both are in the Marina Bay Area which is great if you only plan to go to places in the immediate area, but if you plan to visit many places in Singapore, I'd much prefer the location of the Fairmont.

I'm sure you will get lots of recommendations - everyone has their favorite hotel/location.

jacketwatch Sep 1st, 2016 07:10 AM

We stayed at the Pan Pacific marina area. Here's what we liked;
Best breakfast buffet ever!
There is a mall attached in its complex so very convienent.
Walkable to the cloud atlas area and to Raffles and Raffles city mall and the Merlion.
Wonderful service.
MRT is very close by.

Singapore is not that big and has excellent public transport that is reasonably priced so it's pretty easy to get around.

Guenmai Sep 1st, 2016 10:22 AM

I also like the Fairmont and its location as I've been staying in that hotel building over many years, even back when it had two other names, I think it was. But, as for the Fairmont and the buffet breakfast situation, the morning buffet was beyond a mad house. In all of my previous stays in that hotel structure, I never did the morning buffet, but tried it in Jan 2016; crowded and people everywhere. Unpleasant and especially after I had just been staying at the Four Seasons.

However, what's good is that if you just walk out the door of that breakfast room, there's a down escalator to the left which leads into the lower part of the mall that the hotel is connected to. Down in the basement, there are all kinds of food places and also the supermarket which I've used for many years. So, it's easy to get to food as I eat down there quite often even when not staying at the Fairmont.

I've stayed at a lot of hotels in Singapore, since the 90s, and as far as I'm concerned, it's the Four Seasons. On this upcoming, 6-week trip, to the region, I have 3, Four Seasons stays at the Singapore one as I'll be passing through 3 times. I'll have an arrival, 1-night overnight stay, then some weeks later a 3-night stay, and then a week later a 6-night stay before flying home. I really like that hotel and it's in an area that's really quiet, plus I noticed in Jan 2016, that one of the Hop-On Hop Off bus stops is directly across from the hotel as I tried that bus for the first time.

I have found the food, at the Four Seasons to be very good, and I really like the buffet breakfast as it's been the best one that I've personally gotten in Singapore. Plus, there's a mini-mall passage way that's connected to the Four Seasons that dumps out into the lobby of the Hilton Hotel which is right there on Orchard Rd. The Four Seasons is on Orchard Blvd. So, one doesn't need to even walk outside and all the way around to get to Orchard Rd. or go up or down the little hill as the Four Seasons is on a little hill. Just walk though the passage way.

I also like the Four Seasons for its top service and its rooms that have been quite spacious compared to a lot of other rooms that I've had in Singapore.

As for the Ritz Carlton, it's a beautiful hotel. I haven't stayed there, but got a walk through of it many years ago. However, that is not one of my desired locations, to say the least. I like to be more central although the MRT (subway) is very good. As for the Mandarin Oriental, I can't remember where it is. If it's the one with the outside, bridge/garden-looking structure connecting two buildings, I think, then that location isn't bad as I could see it out my hotel room window from the Fairmont. I'll google it to get a link.

Happy Travels!

Guenmai Sep 1st, 2016 10:36 AM

OK. I just googled the Mandarin Oriental and it's not the hotel that I was thinking. The Mandarin Oriental is also in the Marina Bay area like the Ritz Carlton. Below is an MRT map.

* If you look at the yellow, #8 on that map, and then look up a bit, you'll see the Orchard stop on the red line. That's the heart of Orchard Road. The Four Seasons is in the Orchard area. A lot of the shopping is on Orchard Road.

* If you go back to the yellow, #8 and look down a bit, you will see the City Hall MRT stop. That's where both the Fairmont Hotel and Raffles Hotel are.

* Now, from that point, keep looking down, to the bottom of the page and you'll see #10 and #5, which is where Marina Bay is.

http://www.singaporepackage.com/singapore_mrt.htm

Happy Travels!

marmot Sep 1st, 2016 06:14 PM

I'm partial to the Four Seasons too. It's not too big, the service is excellent, the food is good -- especially the Chinese restaurant -- and the decor is tasteful and comfortable. It's a short walk to Orchard Road, close to an MTR station and within walking distance the Botanic Gardens. There are two pools, one reserved for lap swimmers, a good spa and fitness center.

juliajane Sep 1st, 2016 06:32 PM

Thank you so much for all the helpful information. I will look into the four seasons!!!
J

Colleen Sep 1st, 2016 08:29 PM

We are trying out the Fairmont this next January after our cruise from Abu dabi through stops in India to Singapore. Last hotel in Singapore was the Hilton on Orchard and I didn't think it was centrally located or particularly nice.

werth Sep 1st, 2016 08:59 PM

We stayed at the Mandarin Oriental this past July and enjoyed the service, the food, the pool, and the views from the Marina Bay view room. It was a great spot for our first visit, but as mentioned earlier, there are many great hotels in Singapore. I would like to try staying in Chinatown at The Club next time.

CaliNurse Sep 1st, 2016 09:04 PM

I (like Jacketwatch) stayed at Pan Pacific by Marina Bay, and liked the hotel itself, but not its location. (There's a Pan Pacific Orchard Rd too) . Sure, Singapore is small, and everything seems pretty close, but walking in the heat and humidity even a few blocks made me decide choose another location if there's a next time.
Several have mentioned hotels locations adjacent to malls. That's a nice feature , for sure. But saying a hotel is next to a mall in Singapore, is like saying a front yard is next to a house. Malls, both above and below ground, are omnipresent in SG. Orchard Road is two long malls---one loonnnggg g set of attached malls, blending into each other, on each side of the street. The Suntec area near Pan Pacific /Marina area has several towers, all with malls, all with virtually identical interiors.

The Four Seasons location sounds great, as it is near the Botanical Gardens!!! Wonderful place!!!

Guenmai Sep 1st, 2016 09:52 PM

"juliajane on Sep 1, 16 at 7:32pm
Thank you so much for all the helpful information. I will look into the four seasons!!!
J'

I hope it suits you. I love that hotel and when I'm there I don't want to leave as it's a quiet haven within busy Singapore. I haven't tried the food in the Chinese restaurant, but was more than happy with the food at breakfast. lunch, and dinner and as for hotel service, I couldn't have been happier. The pools are nice and there's even a tennis court as I could watch, what looked like professionals, practice tennis from the dining room window of my room.

As for location, one can take a taxi or go to an MRT station. What I find really great about the location is that after a full day, running around Singapore, it's great to be able to return back to peace and quiet although being that close to Orchard Rd.

Happy Travels!

WeisserTee Sep 2nd, 2016 06:04 AM

It depends on what you want from your hotel. We are going to Singapore for two weeks early next year and are booked into two hotels: 3 nights in a Palm Court Suite at Raffles and 9 nights in a Marina Bay view club level room in the Mandarin Oriental. Here's why:

Raffles -- it's iconic. Guests have access to parts closed off to the public or people having drinks at the bar (if you do go there, skip the Long Bar and head for the Writers Bar instead...much, much nicer). Staying in a Palm Court Suite means we can have breakfast or drinks on the beautiful colonial-style veranda off our room. Plus: we also have a family connection to the area as my late FiL was the original site manager for the Raffles redevelopment project.

Mandarin Oriental. I just love this hotel. It has, IMO, the best hotel pool in Singapore (yes, I include the Marina Bay Sands in that, as well as the pools at the Fairmont, Ritz, Four Seasons, etc). When I last stayed there, I walked over to the Ritz next door and compared the pools and public areas. Came back glad to have picked the MO. One of the things I like best about the pool, aside from its overall design, is that it's in the shade until 10 am. Perfect for fair-skinned people like me who enjoy a morning swim.

The MO is not really a family-oriented hotel, compared to places like Shangri-La. It's more serene and has a more adult feel. Good selection of on-site restaurants. Close to the Esplanade and Helix Bridge. Club level has excellent service, inc. dedicated check-in, terrific food selections at various times of day, and 4 pm checkout.

To be honest, other 5-star hotels may have better rooms, although I had nothing to complain about in my room and it's certainly at a 5-star level. If you're not interested in the Club level, try for a Marina Bay or (even nicer, IMO) an Ocean View room. I actually prefer the ocean view to the Marina Bay view.

I tried to like the Four Seasons but it just didn't resonate. Didn't really care for the pools or the overall vibe. To each his own.

AskOksena Sep 2nd, 2016 02:25 PM

Greetings to the OP, juliajane - and congratulations on your plans to stay in our lovely home of Singapore. Special place.

You have received good suggestions regarding some our esteemed hotels, including two properties I know well, the Four Seasons and Raffles. Love both establishments.

Before purchasing a residence in SIN, my primary Singapore business travel hotel was the Four Seasons. Each and every corporate stay was seamless; have remained good friends with various managers and staff. Dined at her Jiang-Nan Chun restaurant last month; special as ever. Should you decide on the FS, would be happy to give suggestions on specific rooms and suites I stayed in over the years.

My relationship with Raffles goes back ~ half-century, initially staying with my parents and siblings. She's aging rather well, with some timely and thoughtful renovations over the decades. Again, would be happy to offer suggestions on various suites I (we) have stayed in over time. (And well done on choosing a Palm Court Suite, WeisserTee; have stayed in that category and they are wonderful.)

Between the two hotels, would probably go with Raffles - with the aforementioned sentimental family reasons playing a role. So many great hotels in our Singapore; am confident you will enjoy our city-state.

Savour your planning, juliajane; happy for you. Best to you and all from winding down work week in the San Francisco Bay Area,

robert


... Singapore Airlines, You're a Great Way to Fly ...

Guenmai Sep 2nd, 2016 07:58 PM

"Should you decide on the FS, would be happy to give suggestions on specific rooms and suites I stayed in over the years."

Uh, like, hello: I'll take those room suggestions at the Four Seasons although I've had really good ones and have been upgraded twice; the biggest one having two bathrooms, big bedroom, area with a desk, living room, and dining room. Plus, I negotiated breakfast buffet included in that one.

The person who upgraded me on the above one is now the concierge, so when I went back in January 2016, she was behind the concierge desk, but remembered me and by name and even asked if I had been given an upgrade. Great service.

Happy Travels!

marmot Sep 2nd, 2016 08:45 PM

We had the same experience at the Four Seasons. Hadn't been there for 5 or 6 years, but the concierge (who had been promoted to something else; I forget what) remembered us!

I agree, though, that there are better pools in Singapore.

I'd also clarify that although the FS is within walking distance of the Botanic Gardens it's a 20-30 minute walk, which some wouldn't consider near enough to be called "near." :)

Guenmai Sep 2nd, 2016 10:58 PM

I don't select hotels by their pools, but if that's an important item for folks, then they need to take that into consideration. For me great service, good food, room size, and the vibe of a hotel are my main focus on selecting a hotel. I also take location into consideration and although I really like the location of the Fairmont and that it's right above the MRT station, that too has it's disadvantages as it's not as quiet and peaceful around there as it is at the location of the Four Seasons.

Happy Travels!

Cyansiam Sep 2nd, 2016 11:07 PM

Always stay at Shangri La Valley Wing, the best club rooms in Sing and excellent service. Have tried a lot of the other hotels including the MO which is also good, nice rooms if you get the marina views but service not up to the standard of the Shang. Drinks inc Champagne are free flow from 11 am to 10.30 pm! There is a shuttle bus from the main hotel down to Orchard or it is 5 minute walk.

WeisserTee Sep 3rd, 2016 01:19 AM

One general note: many hotels are upgrading their properties. Whichever hotel you choose, make sure to check whether there will be any construction going on during your dates that will either create noise or have some areas/services closed. Check the review sites like TA and Booking.com to see if guests are reporting construction projects next door -- these may also be noisy and beyond the hotel's control.

New hotels are also now open or on the horizon. There will be a new Intercontinental next year -- we were curious about that one but there isn't enough info available yet and anyway, it doesn't open until Q2 2017 earliest.

Although we're happy with our Raffles/MO selection, the other hotels we seriously considered were the Park Royal on Pickering, Fullerton and St. Regis. In the end, we went with the MO based on previous experience, service, pool and location (we like the views and the proximity to the Gardens by the Bay, Helix Bridge and Esplanade for performances). Plus, we were offered an excellent corporate rate -- our company discount is also available to employees for personal travel.

WeisserTee Sep 3rd, 2016 02:02 AM

A last note: what time do you arrive in Singapore? Our flight from Zurich gets in at 6 am. We've booked a room at the Changi Crowne Plaza (technically checking in the night before) so we can get into the room immediately. We'll have a light breakfast, relax in the pool, take a nap, shower and generally get refreshed after the long flight. We've already arranged a late checkout (1:30 pm) at the Crowne Plaza so we can then just hop into a taxi and head straight over to Raffles.

juliajane Sep 3rd, 2016 04:33 PM

My flight arrives very early in am. I am going to look into raffles, mo, ritz, four seasons.
Thanks for input. I may ask for room tips from those who offered.
J

jacketwatch Sep 3rd, 2016 04:48 PM

We arrived like 0100 too so had to book an xtra day so we could go to our room right away. C'est la vie.,

Guenmai Sep 3rd, 2016 06:47 PM

When I'm flying to Singapore, from L.A., flights usually arrive around 3:25AM, but I then just sleep at the transit hotel inside of the airport until it's time for me to wake up and walk to the gate of my Bangkok flight. But, Singapore Air contacted me in early July of a flight change and now I'll leave early morning and arrive into Singapore the night before.

Now with the new arrival time and date, I had to book a hotel room and then I had Singapore Air change my next-day flight, on to Bangkok, from an early-morning one to a late afternoon one. That way I'll get more time to sleep and also relax in my Four Season's room before going back to the airport to fly on to Bangkok.

I actually much prefer the 3:25AM arrival flights over the night-before arrival flights as when I arrive at 3:25AM, I don't clear customs, can't pick up luggage as it's not released, don't need to take a taxi to a hotel and back to the airport, and don't have to pay for a hotel room in the city for such a short period of time. I prefer to just sleep at the transit hotel of which I've been doing for years.

Happy Travels!

juliajane Sep 4th, 2016 04:02 PM

so if I arrive at around 6 am cant I use facilities at the hotel and just store my bags?
Still leaning toward Ritz Club level as reviews are excellent. Some reviews on four seasons describe it as a bit worn down. My experience with FS has always been great so if Guenmai you can give me some room tips I will contact the hotel and see what they can offer. Is overlooking the Marina overrated?
J

jacketwatch Sep 4th, 2016 05:59 PM

I am sure you can store your bags and yes most probably you can use a courtesy room to clean up. However what about an early check-in?

marmot Sep 4th, 2016 06:48 PM

Singapore is a small place and except for far away places like the Night Safari or zoo you're never more than a 15-20 taxi or subway ride from wherever you want to go.

I haven't stayed at the Ritz Carlton but I've looked at the rooms and yes, the views are breathtaking. I found the restaurant ambiance to be a bit cold, but I try to spend as little time in hotel restaurants as possible as a general rule.

I wouldn't characterize the Four Seasons decor as "worn down" but it's definitely a more classic, comfortable style (think overstuffed sofas and ginger jar lamps) than the Ritz Carlton's hard edge contemporary design.

I personally prefer the walking distance neighborhood around the Four Seasons to the Ritz' immediate surroundings, but as I said, you're not far by taxi or MTR from any attractions.

The FS will definitely store your bags before your room is ready. They may allow you to use the facilities at the pool, fitness center or spa. Actually a spa treatment would be a great way to start off. I've found them pretty rigid on early check-in (meaning they wouldn't allow it) but I guess it depends on their occupancy level.

Guenmai Sep 4th, 2016 07:37 PM

"Still leaning toward Ritz Club level as reviews are excellent. Some reviews on four seasons describe it as a bit worn down"

As for a bit worn down, these days if hotels aren't sparkling new, then many times they are pegged as a bit worn down. I had absolutely no problem with the hotel's look and was more than happy to stay at a hotel that didn't have the typical, cookie-cutter, sterile, cold look. I call it character instead of looking a bit worn down.

For me, it's about the service, food, room size, and with this hotel, the quiet location as Singapore hotels can be really busy. It's not like it's located in an area where tons of tourists are walking by it or tons of non-guest are coming in and out of it as looky-loos.

As for rooms, I didn't write down the room numbers that I had, but the room with the large bedroom, two bathrooms, desk area, living room, and dining room was great. I had initially booked a standard room, but was upgraded, upon arrival, to that suite and negotiated free breakfast buffet to be thrown into the mix.

Another room that I remember was a similar suite, but was smaller than the above one, but I was fine with it and it was also an upgrade, upon check in from the standard room that I had booked . When I got back to my rooms, after a long day out, I felt like I was coming home and not back to a sterile hotel room as the rooms have a warm, homey feel.

Happy Travels!

Guenmai Sep 4th, 2016 07:43 PM

http://www.fourseasons.com/singapore...bedroom_suite/

The above one is one of the ones that I was upgraded to upon check in. I loved that one. It was 91 square meters.

Happy Travels!

AskOksena Sep 15th, 2016 02:29 PM

>>>I'll take those room suggestions at the Four Seasons


Early Friday morning greetings from our fine home of Singapore to you, Guenmai; apologies for not replying sooner, as have been on the road for work. (And thank you kindly for your years of visiting and supporting our city-state of SIN, along with flying our cherished Singapore Airlines. Am looking forward to flying SQ's soon-to-launch SIN-SFO non-stops for work.)

Concerning rooms/suites at the Four Seasons, Singapore, was also partial to the One-Bedroom Suite you mentioned; particularly a quiet favourite on the 18th floor. Other lodgings that were ideal for my working stays were some Executive Suites on floor 18, along with appreciated upgrades to two special suites located on the 19th floor, a Governor Suite, along with an Ambassador Suite. Every corporate stay at the FS, SIN was so efficient and enjoyable.

[In keeping with the Four Seasons spirit, enjoyed another seamless business travel stay at the FS, Seoul last week. Great property, with some good friends, managers and staff who used to be with the former FS in Bangkok, along with her Singapore and Tokyo sisters.]

Enjoy your SIN planning. Early and warm weekend wishes from Singapore,

robert


... Singapore Airlines, You're a Great Way to Fly ...

Guenmai Sep 15th, 2016 10:36 PM

Thanks.

Happy Travels!

CaliNurse Sep 17th, 2016 01:25 PM

Guenmai, soooo true what you write about "worn down." Ha!! Like that vague, obnoxious term "dated." Anything older than today is "dated"! Heck...we are all " dated!" Follow the money trail. It's all about profiting from tearing down or remodeling the "worn" and "dated" and full of character, to be placed by the sparkling,brand new, cookie cutter look!

CaliNurse Sep 17th, 2016 01:38 PM

Julia Jane,in answer to your question, yes, overlooking the Marina is overrated, IMHO!!
In fact, at the hotel where I stayed (Pan Pacific) I changed from a room with Marina Bay view to one without, because the additional charge for that particular view was not worth even the minimal extra cost. Imagine a cruise ship stuck atop an unattractive skyscraper...that's the view of the Marina Bay Hotel. Big deal.

WeisserTee Sep 18th, 2016 06:51 AM

CaliNurse, my answer would be, no, it's not at all overrated if it can be combined with an ocean view. I LOVED my view of the Marina and the ocean. Watching the Singapore Flyer and the ships out on the water, as well as the Marina, was one of my favourite things to do in my hotel room when I got up in the morning and when I got back to the room at night.

It's clear the Four Seasons is popular with some of the travellers here, but I didn't find it all that appealing. And I would not choose the hotel in the hope of getting a free upgrade to a large suite plus other munificent perks on a first visit.

Guenmai Sep 18th, 2016 10:22 AM

I didn't choose the Four Seasons in order to possibly get a free upgrade. I chose it for the reasons that I stated upthread and it delivered. I've stayed at more than a few Four Seasons properties around the world of which have suited me more than fine. Now, as far as having a marina view and all, that doesn't speak to me, but to each his own. Different strokes for different folks.

Happy Travels!

jacketwatch Sep 18th, 2016 11:04 AM

We all have our likes and dislikes and hey as long as you are happy with your choice and no one else in on the hook for the bill then go for it.

Cheers, Larry. :).

Guenmai Sep 18th, 2016 02:25 PM

Agreed.

Happy Travels!

jacketwatch Sep 19th, 2016 06:08 AM

Same to you.

Keep on traveling.

Larry. :).

CaliNurse Sep 20th, 2016 12:30 PM

Love your comment, Larry. We RNs (retired ones included) are so wise (-: perhaps because we've seen it all!!
Safari njema! (A shamelss plug for another wonderful destination!)

jacketwatch Sep 20th, 2016 03:43 PM

Thank you Cali!

You know we have seen quite a bit. For example we once had a post op heart who we had to fluid restrict. Well this gal you could not say no to so she drank her low dose dopamine. I don't know whet that means to most but you know what it means to us!! :D.

OK, back to the thread but forgive me for this injection of hospital humor. :).

rellie2 Dec 6th, 2016 02:11 AM

If you haven't already booked we would highly recommend the Conrad. We usually stay here in the club rooms when visiting Singapore.

We found the lounge quieter than other hotels with a relaxed atmosphere. Staff are attentive and the food is great.

Compared to some of the more modern hotels you may think the rooms are a little dated - but I'd be more inclined to call them old school luxury.

When you walk out from the hotel Suntec City is right across the road, along with Millenia Walk. There are also 2 MRT stations surrounding it - Promenade and Esplanade. If you go to the Esplanade MRT you can actually walk all the way to Raffles City undergound (great for those hot days).

We have arrived early in the morning on a couple of occasions and they have always had our room available. And if you're flying out late you can sit in the club lounge and use the shower facilities in gym. Though I'm sure most hotels with club lounges will offer this.

We recently stayed at The Westin in their club room and while it was enjoyable, it was much busier and not as personal. However the rooms are amazing and very large.

We have also stayed at Marina Bay and do not rate it. It's extremely busy (the club lounge was more like a cafe and some people couldn't even get in). The view is outstanding though.


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