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Nywoman Jun 4th, 2017 04:35 AM

Wonderful trip report and the videos are so well done. Am going back this October and this time will definitively see the Miho Museum. How did you get there?

Am still in the early planning stages, have never used local volunteer guides, but may reconsider.

internetwiz Jun 4th, 2017 05:27 AM

sandgroper, thank you for sharing your wonderful experiences. We've been to the places you've outlined but I love reliving the experience. I especially loved your Miyajima video as it was so much less crowded there when we visited (hence one of the reasons we didn't love it there as much as we should have). Your other videos are so well done too. I foresee you making many follow-up visits to other areas of Japan (as many of us have done).

Nywoman, the Goodwill Guides are the best deal going. Not only have we met some very interesting people, it's helped us get indoctrinated to a place quickly and we've been able to visit places that we might not have normally gone to. And yes, honey is a good gift. One of our Goodwill Guides lamented how expensive honey is in Japan.

thursdaysd Jun 4th, 2017 05:48 AM

Another vote for the volunteer guides. They vary, of course, but can be wonderful.

https://mytimetotravel.wordpress.com...on-over-kyoto/

sandgroper Jun 4th, 2017 01:02 PM

MaryW, yes that is the reason we didn't use the upstairs sleeping area. I was frequently in agonizing pain walking and using steps. 'The Temple House' bathroom is downstairs. With the exception of Nikko, there was always problems with bathrooms. Lack of space to dress meant having to undress/dress in the living areas, and for this reason towel rails were often placed on the outside of bathrooms. Bathroom floors could become dangerously slippery from soap/shampoo because the baths were way too deep for me to climb into and i had to stand on the floor to shower.
If i'm fortunate enough to return to Japan i will look for accommodation with walk-in showers.

Nywoman, we caught a train from Kyoto station to Ishiyama station and then caught a bus. Having a volunteer guide meant everything went smoothly and i learned from them how to use the train and bus system with confidence. The guides were naturally kind and friendly and a gold-mine of information.
All costs were transparent and minimal. EG Miyoko-san used her guide pass for her own free entry into the museum, and other guides were able to get discounted entries for themselves and would advise us about senior discount entries.

internetwiz, all, thanks for your kind words about my very amateur videos.
I have a feeling the honey was a suggestion i saw on Fodors but i cannot remember who suggested it. The guides appreciated the thought and i was careful how i gave it... with a smile and the least amount of fuss. I learned that from this forum too:)

sandgroper Jun 4th, 2017 05:24 PM

Nikko 15th - 19th May

Here is where we stayed in Nikko http://www.fu-sha.co.jp/room.html
We rented a rustic little house with some very big pros and cons.
Major asset:The owner. Yoshiko-san is, without a doubt, the kindest host i have ever met. Yoshiko-san genuinly cares you are happy and she never stops thinking of ways to make your stay even better. From free washing/ironing to picking us up from the station.
Location: Quiet little street where one end leads onto Kanmangafuchi Abyss and the other end has a background of tall and misty mountains. Nikko shops are about 20 mins walk
away however i didn't have to do very much walking because if Yoshiko-san heard i was going anywhere she'd arrange to take me there at no charge.
Futons were firmer than the ones at Kanazawa however we still had very peaceful sleeps on them.
Bathroom, at last! A large bathroom with room to move. Best bathroom of all.
The only con and one i hated - It's an old home and the step up from the foyer and into the living areas was even higher than at the Kyoto machiya. At least 24" high and very painful for me. If you'd like to stay here and the step up is a problem, i think the owner would help with an extra step up. I didn't ask.

16th May:
Mainly just walked around Nikko, ate, slept, read.
Made my first purchase. A dragon painting for my son which i filmed the artist creating. I could choose the colours, the Kanji, the frame and it looks amazing framed. Did i want glass or perspex? I chose perspex. At no extra charge the shop wrapped it in cardboard and bubblewrap, even putting a little plastic handle on the package. Wrapped so well it could withstand being mailed home so we got a quote from the Post office. Light weight but at AU $65 to send, no thanks. It eventually went all the way home with us and suffered not even a mark to the bubble wrap in Singapore Airlines cargo.
Artist painting the dragon for my son:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_4iB7L_OEo

17th May:
The reason we were in Nikko. Toshogu Shrine Annual Grand Spring Festival to see Yabusame horseback archery. We were on site an hour before it began but still we found it difficult to get a good viewing spot. I'd love to see horseback archery again in Japan.
18th May:
Huge disappointment. We were all waiting but not a warrior in sight. Very slight mists of rain caused the 1000 samurai warrior procession to be cancelled. If you intend to go it's possible to hire a chair to watch it.
Would we return to Nikko? Yes. Loved this really charming mountain village.
My video of Nikko https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atxPcAbGv0I

19th May - train to the biggest city we've ever seen. Tokyo

Kavey Jun 4th, 2017 10:50 PM

The honey was me, I think. I mentioned that I had really wanted to take local honey with me made in London but that I wasn't able to find small enough jars for it to be practical. In the end I took some very high end bean-to-bar chocolate made in London instead.

Kavey Jun 4th, 2017 10:57 PM

PS The dragon painting (and the video of it being made) is spectacular!

jdc26 Jun 5th, 2017 01:08 AM

sandgroper, that is beautiful. I've been looking since I've been here to find an artist that can paint me something with no luck. The one time I found a place that had an artist, the artist was not in that day. Makes me want to go to Nikko tomorrow to find that artist, but it'll be a long day and quite expensive to get to from Tokyo.

JenV Jun 5th, 2017 03:49 AM

Following along as I just returned form Japan, overlapping some of your dates. I loved Japan!

sandgroper Jun 5th, 2017 03:58 AM

Thank you Kavey :)

jdc i'm glad you like the painting too however it might not be what you have in mind because the artist only seems to do dragon paintings?

JenV, it's been fun doing this trip report (and they did create a monstor with their encouragement :D )but i'm looking forward to finishing tomorrow and diving into reading travel reports on here .

sandgroper Jun 6th, 2017 10:58 AM

We encountered our first ever subway stations
All went well travelling from Nikko - Asakusa but from Asakusa to Ryogoku we discovered we had to exit Asakusa and then walk a short distance to a subway entrance. We got to the subway entrance and I was literally looking down on a world of pain. Flight after flight of stairs.
In theory Tokyo stations have good access for people with mobility problems, in practice it's not like that at all. After a number of extremely painful episodes i learned to mostly avoid the subway. Sometimes i could catch a train from stations with elevator/access and then take a short taxi ride and sometimes i could take a bus.
My husband loved the subways and has a plan to ride on them all day long discovering all the ways someone with mobility problems can get from a-b in Tokyo. I hope he does it. I hope he writes a book.

We stayed at Ryogoku View Hotel for 6 nights.
Pros: Position is perfect for what we wanted. Uncrowded streets, close to Sumo stadium, right next door to the railway station. Street and train noise cannot be heard when windows are closed. Staff were very helpful and courteous. Rooms clean and bed very comfortable.
Cons: Smallest bathroom of the trip. Seriously had to edge in sideways to use the basin. My husband could step into the bathtub to shower but i could not. I had to shower by flooding the bathroom floor with water and slippery soap. Staff told me all bathrooms are the same.
No cupboard space. Just a couple hooks on the wall.
No iron. Can borrow a "trouser press" which does a pretty bad job.
Our 'standard' size room was the smallest space of the trip. I would never get a room that small again for that length of time. It had an incredibly tiny balcony however i noticed other standard size rooms had a bigger balcony with double sliding doors.

Food:
Up until this trip to Japan we weren't very familiar with Japanese food. In Japan our attitude was one of point and dive in. My husband being a meat eater did more diving in than i did. I do eat fish though so had a lot of choice. The food was amazing. We loved it all.
I took my own fork to Japan. Yes i did. Not because it's a favourite fork or anything. At home I mostly cook Asian food however i've never bothered to learn to use chopsticks
I lost my fork in Kanazawa. If you're chopstick challenged like me, don't worry. Even the teeniest restaurant understood the word, 'fork' or mime for it, and could produce a fork or spoon.

Next and last travel report, what we did in Tokyo

thursdaysd Jun 6th, 2017 01:09 PM

Yes, limping round Kyoto I discovered a serious shortage of elevators/escalator at subway stations. There was usually only one, at the opposite end from where I was, and as far from the the center of the station as possible....

Kavey Jun 6th, 2017 09:38 PM

Yes, same here on finding the correct entrance for a station that had a lift or escalators!! Most stations did have one and it was fine finding them from inside the station, where they were usually marked. But from outside coming in, if we didn't know in advance, we couldn't work out how where to go to find an entrance with lift or escalator!

sandgroper Jun 7th, 2017 03:11 AM

20th May.
Our smiling volunteer guide, Murayama-san, from Tokyo Free Guide, was waiting in our hotel lobby at 11 a.m.
We'd had email contact with Murayama to discuss what we wanted to do for the day and he had organised the time very well. Nothing would be rushed, we'd get to see the sites that interested us and still have plenty of time to relax.
First of all we went to Tokyo Camii & Turkish Cultural Centre as i very much wanted to see this lovely mosque. It didn't disappoint. Non Muslims like myself are welcome to visit, i just took a scarf and was a respectful visitor. Here is my film of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kq7Kd96ZXL8

There was a very big festival in Asakusa however i didn't think we'd do well in such a big crowd our first day in Tokyo so i decided on a smaller festival in Yoyogi Park. Loved it, totally loved it. Spent a few hours there and really didn't want to leave.
Here is what i filmed of the festival. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgRdr94rnAw

Next we went to Shibuya Station as i wanted to see the statue and pay homage to the beautiful spirit of Hachikō.

And then came the Shibuya crossing. I loved it! I laughed all the way across and our guide wanted to know if i wanted to do it again? Yes! My husband asked, "what for?" Pfft.

Muraya got us back to our hotel by 5.30pm. We were once again very fortunate to have had such a friendly and good guide.

21st May
Another first for us. A baseball game! We saw it at Meiji Jingu Stadium, Tokyo's oldest baseball stadium. We loved the spectators, the players, the songs, the batons, the fun, the beer girls. We sat with the Yakult Swallows home team fans, and sitting with them involved the opening and closing of umbrellas at times. Everything was so exciting
Here is my movie of the fans and the game and the beer girls. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWdql3p-gqo

22nd May
Unsure if this is the day we went to Tokyo-Edo Museum in Ryogoku. In any case the first time we went it was closed for a holiday we knew nothing about. We weren't staying far away so it wasn't an inconvenience to return.
Many will love it, we were bored
They have a nice little museum shop and it was here we bought gifts of oil and sake salad dressing.

We went to the Sumo Grand Tournament. Very exciting.
I purchased our tickets through buysumotickets before leaving Australia and so glad i did. Tickets for the whole month sold out within an unprecedented 1 hour from the time they went on sale.
This is the reason i was given, "The very top wrestlers in sumo are called "yokozuna". After the January tournament, a fan-favourite Japanese wrestler, named Kisenosato, was promoted to yokozuna, after winning a tournament for the first time. This was the first yokozuna promotion of a Japanese-born wrestler in 19 years. The previous 5 yokozuna were foreign-born (1 American and 4 Mongolians). He then won the March tournament in dramatic fashion, which caused a huge amount of media coverage and skyrocketed interest in the May tournament to levels that nobody has ever seen"
My little sumo movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uMaFtRd_DI Watch out for the 2 sumo wrestlers rolling out of the ring and onto an official. The squished official bowed before leaving

23rd May
Did a little bit of shopping at Skytower. We're not big on shopping but if we'd had more time, we might have been tempted here.
We bought two very amusing caricatures i talked my husband into posing for. Thinking in advance of the recipients of these pics, I had one created of him with a birthday theme and one with a christmas theme. Think the shop for caricature art shop is on the 5th floor. The artists will also draw caricatures from photos and they are way cheaper than similar we can have done in Perth.

In the afternoon we went to Yushukan Military and War Museum. They have a permanent and interesting exhibition of pieces dating from 1894 to the end of World War II.
When we visited there was an additional'special' exhibition of warrior helmets and armor some of which i filmed ( Filming is not permitted of the permanent exhibition )
Helmets and Armour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uduiZ9u_DFQ

24th May
We experienced the Goma rite at Fukagawa Fudo-do Temple and also had husbands wallet blessed. Very beautiful temple and if you visit be sure to take the elevator to the upper floors to viedw more stunning rooms.

Kavey posted, "But from outside coming in, if we didn't know in advance, we couldn't work out how where to go to find an entrance with lift or escalator!" Spot on Kavey. We could see the subway entrance near the temple but how to access it other than by stairs?
Frustrated and upset we ended up getting a taxi to the National theatre to see a Banruko performance. I've never visited an Asian country without seeing a puppet show and the Japanese one is just gorgeous.

25th May.
Our last morning in Tokyo, and, for all the wrong reasons, we'll never forget it.
Hyperdia has been my go to site for train travel in Japan and i had getting to the airport via 3 trains all worked out. What we couldn't have predicted was our response to the importance of catching our plane on time. It was panic! Total panic. I can't even put into words what happened because we still can't work it out ourselves. We know we jumped on and off about 5 or 6 trains, never sure if we were on the right train or not. At one stage the train doors even shut in my face leaving my husband on the platform, me on the train, staring at each other mouth agape as the train sped off. I got off at the next station but had no idea the name of the station we'd been separated at. Sheer lucky guess work got me back to him. I feel pacnicked even reliving this experience, lol.
All of this after 2 and half weeks of catching the right trains.
Anyway we made it to our plane on time and sadly left Japan. I'm pretty sure we'll be back :)

Kavey Jun 7th, 2017 09:49 PM

Gosh, you really did a great range of activities in Tokyo, I'm making notes for next time!
Sorry about your upset on the journey back to the airport, I wonder if panic about missing the flight just flummoxed you? And once you make the first misstep it's so hard not to make more! Glad you got there in the end!!!

lcuy Jun 7th, 2017 10:23 PM

A tip for others who may worry about the chopstick ("hashi'). There is always a fork. Always. Though my DH (the Japanese American guy) grew up eating with chopsticks, he prefers a fork with many foods. In 35 years of travel in Japan, he has never been told there are no forks!!

Actually, a lot of times the server will bring one sat of hash and one fork anyway, thinking I'll need the fork. We just trade.

Just hold up a chopstick and do the 'no' wave.

Tally Aug 13th, 2017 05:07 PM

What a great trip report! I totally enjoyed reading that. :)
Can you tell me more about the goodwill guides? How do you find them? How much do they charge?

BTW, the image of your face stuck in the train doors made me giggle. :) Not long ago we (me, hub and 11 year old son) dashed for a train here in the US, at an airport, only to realize hub and I made it on and son didn't. So I can relate. :)

Wombat47 Aug 13th, 2017 09:06 PM

A really interesting view I so enjoyed reading air that is what is so good about Fodors. I am also very interested in the guides. We are a group of 8 people. I understand that you just pay transport costs and food for the day but this hardly seems enough for people giving of their times all day . Also did you choose a guide because you felt they would be able to give you more information about the sites or because you weren't sure about being able to get around Kyoto by yourselves?
Did you by any chance go to an ikebana class or a cooking lesson in kyoto?

marvelousmouse Aug 13th, 2017 09:16 PM

Enjoyed your trip report so much!! Love the bit about your trusty traveling fork. You gave me some great ideas about what to see when I go back- I hadn't heard of the mosque!

I did finally find that there is a rhyme and reason to the subways. You just need to be alert and check any map you see. The tricky part is that you have to kind of know how the tracks at each station line up because some elevators only access one track, and then the opposite track's elevator may be at the other end. If you follow the destination signs, you'll screw up. So like you said- technically accessible but not always practical. The two mobility challenged folks I frequently travel with would have a hard time because one mistake can cost you a lot of walking.

I enjoyed sky tree mall too, assuming you're talking about that.Neat place, great desserts.

What airport did you fly out of? I had a bad moment until I realized that the 3 different lines appearing on google maps was just one line that changed its name a few times or something.

thursdaysd Aug 14th, 2017 03:40 AM

http://www.jnto.go.jp/eng/arrange/tr...deservice.html

Goodwill guides are free. You pay for their transport and admission, and any meal they eat with you. I'm not sure whether they will take a group of eight, you'd have to check. I had one very good guide in Kyoto and one not so good in Kanazawa.


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