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LEANNA Aug 10th, 2005 08:43 PM

Ok here is my wiggy idea. Somebody take it and run w/ it and make millions!!!

Instead of 3 seats why not layer horizontal sleep compartments. We climb up using a ladder and stow our hand luggage in our own compartment. Then we climb in and streach out!!

I've seen what I'm talking about in Japaneese Hotels and it would work on a plane. You could layer them 3 high or even 4 high, and get the same amount of people in the same space. Each compartment could have its own tv and water supply! You would only have to come out for the WC.

Can anyone picture what I mean. Would be great and very comfy I should think...and those of us in the cattle section could sleep on those long hauls!

wally34949 Aug 11th, 2005 08:32 AM

The constant interruptions on planes bothers me. At 2:00 a.m. they want to announce check to see that your seatbelt is on, or drinking alcohol not served by a flight attendant is illegal, or interferring with a flight attendant will get you arrested, or you can't smoke in a bathroom, or the fasten seat belt sign is on. You know how hard it is to get to sleep on an overnight flight? I guess the flight attendants figure that if they can't sleep, no one should be able to.

AAFrequentFlyer Aug 11th, 2005 08:45 AM


I don't know who you fly with but on just about any overnight flight I ever took the announcement is made just once before lights out. The FA's ask to fasten seat belts outside the blankets so if the captain turns on the fasten seat belt light they could do a check without waking you up. Never heard any other announcements during the night except when there was a very heavy turbulance couple of times that required almost emergency procedures. Besides, in that case the turbulance was so bad that it would wake up the dead.

Perhaps you may want to consider changing your choice of carrier?

xyz123 Aug 26th, 2005 05:05 PM

On those international say trans Atlantic flights that offer meal service with a choice of menu it is totally frustrating that if you sit in a certain seat, you get no know we have chicken or beef or lasagna and when they get to you, only the lasagna is left...

In this age of technology why would it be so hard to take your meal order and then load the proper number of each meal?

traveller333 Aug 27th, 2005 01:48 PM

I hate the 3-3 configurations on 757's. I'd love to see all airplane built as a wide body with coach sections of 2-3-2. This creates 4 isle seats, 2 window seats and just one of the dreaded middle seats instead of 2. By adding one more seat (7 across instead of 6) you could increase the leg room and still carry the same amount of passengers. I HATE flying now days because it is so claustophobic.

Also, now that many airlines don't serve meals, I think the food for sale could be more like real food....sandwiches, fruit etc. rather than munchies like &quot;goldfish crackers&quot;.

lynnejoel1015 Aug 28th, 2005 09:22 AM

In light of bankruptcies and cutting costs, I think they should maintain safety standards. I feel terrible for those union airline employees (cabin crew and mechanics) who are seeing their benefits cut, jobs threatened, etc., and fear the consequences of the few tired, overworked pilots and mechanics still employed.

Wednesday Aug 28th, 2005 10:54 AM

In a perfect dream world I would like each seat to have a clearly marked overhead bid area just for them only, so you don't have to fight for that space and more leg room. Everything else I can live without...

grace_omalley Oct 14th, 2005 06:22 PM

I would gladly give up food and entertainment and pay a bit more for leg room and the ability to recline without crushing the knees of the person behind you.

wally34949 Oct 17th, 2005 11:11 AM

I'm getting a little annoyed with these airlines that have a TV monitor above the isle and play mostly commercials. Jet Blue has the Direct TV, British Airways has individual monitors and movies, but some of the other airlines use their tv's as a form of advertisement. They can't afford a movie, or CNN?

ed Oct 17th, 2005 04:34 PM

I couldn't agree more about enforcing the carry-on lugggage size.( Have you ever noticed the passenger with the huge duffle bag bears a startling similarity to the duffle bag??)
I also have doubts about people that say that their time is so precious that they can't check their baggage. :-B

rb_travelerxATyahoo Oct 18th, 2005 09:10 AM

I like the idea proposed by Leanna of sleeping compartments. Maybe not an entire plane full of them, but some available at a slightly higher price -- after all those would require cleaning and not be easy to get into to properly clean. Actually; having those in the airports would be great - I could care less about any privacy, just a comfortable place to actually lie down for a few hours.

I also would like to see more even enforcement of carryon. I seldom carry on, but dislike being asked to store my small bag where I'd like to put my feet while the passenger who brought aboard a bathtub has the underseat space completely free. s/HE should take my bag!

I want delay &amp; cancellation info given more freely and honestly. When a flight lands late and connections are missed or hotel assignments are to be made, ground crews and their telephone call center personnel should be making the assignments while the craft is still airborn, so that all paperwork could be handed out to passengers leaving the plane, instead of forcing long lines at a desk with only 1 or 2 agents incurring the wrath of dozens of passengers.

And I'll bring my own entertainment and food, thank you.

daisyblue Oct 23rd, 2005 05:58 AM

LEt me count the ways! Air Canada often asks fliers if they want to pay $15 per flight to guarantee a seat (since a $700 ticket just gets you that, a ticket, not a seat for certain). I wuld gladly give up having to be made part of that sleazy scheme.

PrincessOfPenguins Oct 24th, 2005 06:07 AM

More space (leg and elbow room) - I don't want to get intimate with strangers when I travel, nor do I want to risk smashing someone's face because his hand got close too one of my bodyparts.

And also...

*puts on flame-resistant suit*

Make people who need two seats buy two seats. Nothing nastier than having your limited space even more swallowed up by the person spilling over you...

Gardyloo Oct 24th, 2005 10:38 AM

Chances are that the spiller and the spillee both would like more elbow and knee room.

<b>BUT</b> would you be prepared to pay from 15% to 20% more, across the board, for your flight in order to have more room? This is not intended as a facetious question, because the airlines say that in market analyses they don't see the need or demand for it, that absolute bottom-line price is way more important statistically.

PrincessOfPenguins Oct 27th, 2005 02:13 AM

No. Airline bosses can humble themselves and settle for a thinner wallet.

Carrybean Oct 28th, 2005 04:09 PM

Bigger bathrooms that don't reek.

venusfan Oct 31st, 2005 06:24 PM

No offense but I wish airlines can get rid of annoying passangers who does nothing but complain.. If you want free meals, a lazyboy seat then pay for 1st class.

AAFrequentFlyer Oct 31st, 2005 07:20 PM


posted the following:

<i>I like the idea proposed by Leanna of sleeping compartments. Maybe not an entire plane full of them, but some available at a slightly higher price</i>

That's available right now. It's called first class on most major international airlines. You get a flat bed suite, duvet, real pillows and on many even a luxury pjs. :-)

BA, AA, CX, QF, JL, UA, SQ, AF, LH and few more.....

cfc Nov 1st, 2005 07:37 AM

&quot;No offense but I wish airlines can get rid of annoying passangers who does nothing but complain.. If you want free meals, a lazyboy seat then pay for 1st class.&quot;

Why are only wealthy people the ones entitled to flights with enough legroom to avoid cramping and blood-clots? And no one's really asking for free food -- just availability and reasonable quality. With PrincessofPenguins on this one, too.

(and note: Pretty much anything that begins &quot;no offense but...&quot; is going to be at least a little offensive.....)

CirqueduSoleil Nov 5th, 2005 04:19 PM

Just to add my five cents...

In order to make air travel as pleasurable as it used to be, I think that airline employees should *all* show genuine consideration for passengers. I know we are paying low fares, I know flying isn't glamorous anymore, I know most of the airline staff are underpaid, overworked. I know some of them do not care...
and far from expecting a 3-service meal (Air France on B707s in the 1960s) or champagne, I think that a touch of humanity... a smile would often make a difference.
Unfortunately, it has been my experience that airline staff (at airports, callcenters, in the planes) just treat passengers as cattle. 1,2,3, next! Next!

Call me a hopeless romantic, but during evening flights, when cabin is dark and quiet, I always look by the window on the majestic Earth and can't help think how soaring at 30,000 feet above the ground still is magical. Forget the delays, lost baggage and angry personnel... just think that you are flying close to the Greek Gods dwelling on Mount Olympus. Zeus, Athena, Aphrodite... here we are! Three generations ago, who would even dare dreaming about flying like birds.
Now that we do it on a weekly basis, we too often forget that flight, in itself, is a magical adventure!


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