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What airline would you fly coach on to Europe?

What airline would you fly coach on to Europe?

Sep 29th, 2000, 09:12 AM
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Does anyone have any experience (good or bad) flying on Sabena Airlines? Sabena is the Belgian carrier.
Sep 30th, 2000, 06:56 PM
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RD: we flew Sabena from Boston to Malaga with a stop in Brussels this past March. Despite booking tickets 3 months ahead and calling every couple of weeks to make sure there were no changes, our seat assignments were changed from near the front to the back of the plane on both flights and on the second segment the seats did not recline at all so after being up all night with a multi-hour layover, we were forced to sit upright from London to Malaga with the reclined seats of the folks in front of us poking us in the nose. Not too much fun.
Oct 1st, 2000, 03:09 PM
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Hi Cassandra,,,just got back from Rome and flew Air France....we had a 777 with individual screens and footrests...first time I flew that I did not get backache,,,great crew,and good food and wine(champagne too)...Had good variety of movies to choose from....Would definitley go again,,,plus I get ff miles on Delta!!!
Oct 8th, 2000, 07:19 AM
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For my money, the best carrier to Europe is Lufthansa. Of you're a United frequent flier, look for code shares using Lufthansa. Another good one is Swissair. They do code shores with Delta and American Airlines.
Dec 22nd, 2000, 07:30 AM
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Another vote for Icelandair. They have a few brand new planes in service(wonderful!) and as mentioned above, great prices & service. Especially if you sign up for their e-mail club, Lucky Fares.
Dec 24th, 2000, 09:50 AM
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Rebel Tours (www.rebeltours.com) has a contract with Bristish Air, Continental,
KLM, Martinair etc., and I think you'll find the fares lower than calling the airlines direct. For instance in off-season its $455 RT to fly from Miami to London on BA- they also have a contract with British Midland for intra european fares and they have a contract with Air New Zealand- this air carrier is on a par with Singapore Airlines mentioned above and YES they now fly to several cities in Europe from the USA. Take a look at their website. They have a video cam inside COACH that shows you the layout of coach and the chairs- the CHAIRS are those other airlines use in Business class. VERY NICE and my Travel Agent agrees that it is the WAY to fly and the food is superb. If you want to fly business class to Amsterdam the best deal I have found bar none is on www.tiss.com with MARTINAIR- even Rebel Tours was $300 higher for business class than TISS
come visit Cheap Flight Forum
www.eurotrip.com for more info!
Jan 3rd, 2001, 05:58 PM
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The ONLY airline I would consider flying in Economy is Virgin. The rest are flying sardine cans managed by overworked, nasty flight crews. A
transatlantic flight on Delta was the worst. They ran out of blankets and food. My seat was positioned in a way that I couldn't see the film even if I wanted to pay to do so.

By the way, as anyone flown SAS to Scandinavia? How is their business class? Is economy tolerable?
Jan 23rd, 2001, 03:18 PM
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I've had excellent luck with British Airways on their 777 to London from Denver. Excellent service (having someone serving you dinner using the Queen's english is very pleasant) and the seats are well-spaced with plenty of room. Highly recommended! My general experience is European airlines (BA, Virgin, Lufthansa, Swissair) put the Americans to shame. Always pick the Euro carriers when you can!
Jan 25th, 2001, 02:42 AM
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Recently flew Singapore from JFK to FRA, and it was excellent. They also fly JFK to AMS, but that's it across the Atlantic. So if you happen to be on these routes, then they are a good alternative. And since they're in the Star Alliance, you get UAL-miles.
Jan 25th, 2001, 09:29 AM
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I fly across the Atlantic about three times per year and in my opinion you should make every effort to avoid British Airways and Virgin Atlantic. They both have terrible legroom.

Also there are problems with the boeings 777s - the air doesn't circulate properly. You will be gasping for breath half way through. All things being equal try to get an airbus 340.

The only airline worth flying across the Atlantic with is American - they have put extra leg room in there coach sections - the others will have to do this also in a few years now the flying related bloodclots have become such an issue. Believe me , fly American - but check it has their new layout first.
Mar 14th, 2001, 04:51 AM
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This is an old posting, I realise, but I just wanted to make a couple of points.

Firstly, having flown to the States, from London, with 3 different airlines recently I would ALWAYS choose to fly Virgin. The flight was an absolute joy, something which is generally impossible to say, for all the reasons so far mentioned and it was also one of the cheapest direct flights (if not THE cheapest). It's a fun experience and if all the children on a 14 hour flight behave impeccably throughout because they are so well entertained that really is something!!

Secondly, I was stunned by the rudeness and general 'attitude' of the airline staff when I flew Delta. Over here we tend to be polite but not always overly 'friendly' (for which I apologise unreservedly - we aren't all like that!!) and we tend to look to America as the pinnacle of customer relations. It came as something of a shock that my subsequent trips with Virgin and British Airways were so much better staffed.
Mar 15th, 2001, 10:28 AM
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I had two great flights on BA, but I heard that Vurgin is the best.
Apr 13th, 2001, 06:51 AM
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I've flown British Air twice and loved it both times.

Last year we flew to Paris on United and I have to say, service was great, seats were comfortable, amenities were fine, everyone was gracious, and the wine was good (I rarely touch the food, so can't report on that).

This year we're taking American to Paris. At first I was looking forward to it, since I've heard they've added 3-inches of leg room in coach (I have long legs).

But after reading the comments about American on this board, I'm a little worried.
Apr 14th, 2001, 01:58 AM
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I've flown Singapore Airlines twice and they have been the best!! They seem to respect all passengers, even coach. I wish they flew to more places in Europe.

To Amsterdam, I flew KLM and thought it was a very pleasant flight.

I have flown British Airways three times and I wouldn't even recommend them to transport goats. Living in NYC, I thought I could tolerate anything, but my three experiences with BA were horrendous.
Apr 15th, 2001, 08:40 AM
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Last month I flew from Orlando to Rome round trip on US Airways' new A330 planes with the movie screens on the back of each seat and a choice of about 15 movies and shows to watch. That was nice - like your own little cocoon - but I found the seats narrower than others. All in all, the service was decent and the screens made the flights more bearable.

This month I'm flying back on Delta and am surprised to hear they don't use their 777's for the trip - I'm on an MD-11, which is just a tad smaller than the 777, with 55 rows. I don;t know what this will be like but I'll post a report afterward!
Apr 15th, 2001, 05:01 PM
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The last time we flew coach to Europe, we flew Air France one way and United the other. The planes were the same (cramped seating) but the service was amazingly different. The Air France attendants couldn't have been nicer. The United personnel acted like they were doing you a favor.
Apr 28th, 2001, 05:50 PM
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I have a hard time believing the prices are all the same. If they were then I'd say BA of the ones you listed by far is the best. I've never had bad experiences with them, am surprised a single person said so, and in fact can tell you about a time when a BA rep met me at Heathrow to take four of us personally in a van to another terminal since they knew we came in late and would have trouble with a connection. In economy they served us a really top meal, and all the free alcohol you wanted. That's rare in economy. And I've flown just about all the airlines mentioned here.

Virigin is also good, but they're not that good. Definitely superior, and since they're generally less expensive perhaps the best value. Also have some odd timed flights which can be a bonus if you don't want to fly during the typical hours.

Lufthansa is also excellent, the most orgianized on computer screens I've seen. (they have a console so they can look at the planes seats and know yours names/nationality) Above average, but not the absolute #1.

Continental is below average but not terrible, crew is OK, but the seats aren't big and few frills in economy. US Scare is no way to fly. United can be extraordinarily cramped, and Delta is sort of OK. KLM I flew only once and thought they were not too bad, but no BA or Lufthansa. SAS perhaps a little above KLM, friendly, OK, but nothing overly exciting.

I heard a mention of Martinair. Stay 1000 miles away from it, one flight a week, miss it and you're stuck another. Knew two different people both stuck.

Icelandair is generally, quite cheap and an OK airline. The crew is always good, the food and plane average. It won't overwhelm you but the chance to stop in Iceland will. Odd flight though, stops in Iceland after 4 hours from the US, then usually another 3 to Europe. That means you get out of the plane about half way through. I can never sleep a wink so I love being able to get out so soon. It's like two small flights. But people that sleep straight through probably would hate it.

Air France I've only done a couple of times, and the flight is generally quite good. But I happened to have a bad experience while younger with rudeness by ground personnel and don't like to fly them. Otherwise they are definitely above average.

I like Swissair and Alitalia too, but I just don't think they're in the same class as either BA, Air France, or Lufthansa. Virgin has better economy than either, but then if I were going first, I'd like Swissair before Alitalia - Swissair has a nice first class.

Never done Singapore, but have also crossed the Atlantic in Aer Lingus - about the same as Icelandair, Air Ukraine - you wouldn't believe me if I told you, I didn't pay for it or pick it, and it's the only non-stop NYC to Kiev flight, worst flight of my life but for the freshly cooked (they have no microwaves, only hotplates, yes hotplates) meal on the way home which is the absolute best airline food I've ever had, and three other airlines no longer in service.

Apr 29th, 2001, 04:26 AM
Gerry K
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I'm flying to Amsterdam from JFK
in mid May on Royal Jordanian. The
fare, inclusive of tax, was $430
(via Travelocity). Yet after several
posts on this site, I've yet to find
a person who has flown with them. If
you have, I'd appreciate your opinion.


Gerry K
Jun 3rd, 2001, 04:06 PM
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Just returned from Europe and flew Air France.Planes (340's and 737's were great)The 340's were better with individual tv screens with music,movies, and games to play and a flight tracker.We were given ear plugs,eye masks,and video and audio connection plugs and we were in coach. The attendants were great on all 4 flights.
Jun 4th, 2001, 12:39 PM
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Recently flew Continental from Newark to Amsterdam. They schedule a 757 on that route!! That is not a typo! It was a 757, not a 777 or even a 767. That 757 was the most cramped flight I have ever taken. I have learned my lesson the hard way and will aways check the type of aircraft before booking. I can't believe they fly what I consider to be a narrow body aircraft on an overseas flight. That 7 hours seemed like an eternity. Never again.

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