Go Back  Fodor's Travel Talk Forums > Travel Topics > Air Travel
Reload this Page >

US Air Absolutely Horrid

Search

US Air Absolutely Horrid

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 21st, 2014, 11:00 AM
  #1  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
US Air Absolutely Horrid

I booked 2 round trip tickets this summer with US Air. After spending hours attempting to contact a human being (2 hours, 14 minutes on hold the first time, then disconnected - and 1 hour 43 minutes the second time)

I was flying twice from Albany to SFO - caring for family in California. Once I arrived in California it was clear I was needed longer than I expected, and that I would not be able to return home - thus forfeiting my return flight seat, as well as my next departure from Albany seat - but wanting to maintain the second round trip's purchased return seat. I communicated this after several hours of attempting to reach a human being and was told if I did not complete and check in on the departure flight from the east coast, US Air would consider me a "no show" and cancel the whole ticket. I told them I was not a "no show" as I was communicating that I would not be flying the departure portion and since this was PAID on my dime, and was also giving them 15 days to resell that seat, they were getting the better end of that deal. I CLEARLY asked that they NOT cancel the return flight from SFO.

24 hours before my flight, I went online to check-in and learned that the ticket had in fact been canceled. I drove to the airport to resolve this at the US Air desk to no avail. They refused to reissue the ticket and stated that the entire reservation now had no value as I was a "no show". I asked to speak with the supervisor on duty after a failed attempt at communication with the desk agent. Their solution was for me to purchase a brand new one-way ticket at 3 times the cost of the original.

The "supervisor" on duty at the US Air desk in SFO, (Pauline S.) told me, literally "Go away. Have a nice life" When I responded by loudly repeating what she said to me so that other passengers in line could hear, she called the police. The police (3 officers arrived..imagine this as I am a polite, small framed woman ripped off by a corporation) The police assured me that this happens THREE TIMES A DAY at the US Air counter and that I should pursue legal action in Civil Court. The supervisor then yelled across the counter that I was no longer allowed to fly US Air. Thank God.

I flew home on Delta, at a reasonable price, kind staff members and a MUCH more comfortable flight with people who appear happy to work for their company.

DISGUSTED with US Air's lack of customer service and inhumane treatment of their passengers. I was informed at the US Air desk that they routinely overbook by 50% and sell their customer's seats out from under them - they do not apologize for this as they are "allowed" to do this. Morally? Ethically? Doesn't matter. As they put it when I asked if they put the customer or the dollar first, "the dollar of course, it's a business"
AniHawk is offline  
Old Aug 21st, 2014, 11:14 AM
  #2  
J62
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 11,983
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Sorry to hear about your bad experience. I flew USAir from Albany to SFO just last month and have nothing but good things to say about it.
J62 is online now  
Old Aug 21st, 2014, 11:53 AM
  #3  
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 4,024
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I'm sorry to hear about the ordeal, but they did have every right to cancel your ticket. That's the way it works. If you don't show up for one leg of the journey, all subsequent legs are cancelled. Those are the terms of the fare. How was it left at the end of the phone call? Did they give their OK to you not showing up for the outward-bound journey? I doubt they did.

I hope things are better with the family situation that you needed to tend to.
Jeff_Costa_Rica is offline  
Old Aug 21st, 2014, 01:15 PM
  #4  
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 17,801
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I agree with Jeff's take.
NewbE is offline  
Old Aug 21st, 2014, 01:17 PM
  #5  
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 17,801
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Also, IME, people who are not themselves yelling rarely get yelled at. I can never get past a complaint that paints the complainer as utterly blameless.
NewbE is offline  
Old Aug 21st, 2014, 03:22 PM
  #6  
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 2,032
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The airline acted properly as observed by Jeff and others.

What they should have done was offer to change the return portion of your first ticket, with a change fee, and then allow the second ticket to be changed also with a change fee.

Maybe they did and you refused. If so, tough luck for you. If not, then you may have a minor case for not being properly informed.
NoFlyZone is offline  
Old Aug 21st, 2014, 06:14 PM
  #7  
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 72,795
Likes: 0
Received 50 Likes on 7 Posts
Ani probably won't see our comments since she registered today to post her complaint.


But just in <i>case</i>

>>When I responded by loudly repeating what she said to me so that other passengers in line could hear, she called the police. The police (3 officers arrived..imagine this as I am a polite, small framed woman ripped off by a corporation) The police assured me that this happens THREE TIMES A DAY at the US Air counter and that I should pursue legal action in Civil Court.<<

I am almost certain the police officer did not say >>that this happens THREE TIMES A DAY at the US Air counter<< But they almost 100% certainly DID say that this is a civil matter and you >>I should pursue legal action in Civil Court.<<. It IS a civil matter and they would not get involved -- they just wanted to diffuse the matter and get you to shut up and leave the area. Which you did.

And just how 'Polite' could you have been when you >>responded by loudly repeating what she said to me so that other passengers in line could hear<<.

You were a no show - end of story. My guess is USAir suggested on the phone that you re-book and polite/little you refused.
janisj is offline  
Old Aug 21st, 2014, 09:02 PM
  #8  
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 12,009
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Agree with others that US Air told you exactly what they were going to do and you obviously didn't believe them.

You should have asked to change the ticket and pay the change fee like everybody else has to.
bettyk is offline  
Old Aug 22nd, 2014, 03:17 PM
  #9  
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,420
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I believe we can translate this into common sense

" I communicated this after several hours of attempting to reach a human being and was told if I did not complete and check in on the departure flight from the east coast, US Air would consider me a "no show" and cancel the whole ticket. I told them I was not a "no show" as I was communicating that I would not be flying the departure portion and since this was PAID on my dime, and was also giving them 15 days to resell that seat, they were getting the better end of that deal. I CLEARLY asked that they NOT cancel the return flight from SFO.

24 hours before my flight, I went online to check-in and learned that the ticket had in fact been canceled. I drove to the airport to resolve this at the US Air desk to no avail. They refused to reissue the ticket and stated that the entire reservation now had no value as I was a "no show". I asked to speak with the supervisor on duty after a failed attempt at communication with the desk agent. Their solution was for me to purchase a brand new one-way ticket at 3 times the cost of the original."

In other words... I just kept ignoring what they were telling me and assuming that there was some type of special rule I was entitled to and I could ignore the fact that they told me they would cancel my ticket, because what I say should be the final word.

?The "supervisor" on duty at the US Air desk in SFO, (Pauline S.) told me, literally "Go away. Have a nice life" When I responded by loudly repeating what she said to me so that other passengers in line could hear, she called the police. The police (3 officers arrived..imagine this as I am a polite, small framed woman ripped off by a corporation) The police assured me that this happens THREE TIMES A DAY at the US Air counter and that I should pursue legal action in Civil Court. The supervisor then yelled across the counter that I was no longer allowed to fly US Air. Thank God."

I threw a fit that your two year old would be proud of and they told me to leave or go to jail I am so proud of my childish temper tantrum that I came on the internet to tell everyone how well I behaved by SCREAMING because they didn't hold my ticket after I told them to change the rules for me!

"I flew home on Delta, at a reasonable price, kind staff members and a MUCH more comfortable flight with people who appear happy to work for their company."

I am certain that Delta will allow me to make up my own rules in the future because surely they realize it's all about ME!

"DISGUSTED with US Air's lack of customer service and inhumane treatment of their passengers. I was informed at the US Air desk that they routinely overbook by 50% and sell their customer's seats out from under them - they do not apologize for this as they are "allowed" to do this. Morally? Ethically? Doesn't matter. As they put it when I asked if they put the customer or the dollar first, "the dollar of course, it's a business""

Of course NOTHING should be in business to make money and Delta NEVER overbooks ( After violating passenger bumping rules, Delta Air Lines (NYSE: DAL) was assessed with a fine of $750,000 http://beta.fool.com/tulipspeculator...ng-high/39662/)

Sorry OP but you were told the rules and then acted out when they told you "yes we meant that" and now want to trash the airline for your screaming fit.
CarolA is offline  
Old Aug 22nd, 2014, 03:18 PM
  #10  
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,420
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Opps Left out ONE thing.

You had ONE valid complaint. Your hold times were way too long!
CarolA is offline  
Old Aug 22nd, 2014, 05:35 PM
  #11  
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 9,171
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I have to say USAIR worked with me time after time last year during my Mom's illness and then death. I was rebooking a lot. I did work at an airport and the agents were great to work with but had to call twice and cancel flights and then rebook. I had trop insurance when in Europe and they gave me back the change fee even when I had to fly home due to a death. I have always had good luck with phone agents except for Allegiant. They have horrible customer service.
flpab is offline  
Old Aug 23rd, 2014, 05:33 AM
  #12  
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 10,563
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Carol put it best. Sorry OP of you are still around but what did you expect after they did exactly what they said they would do? They followed their procedures and it's really your fault.
jacketwatch is offline  
Old Aug 23rd, 2014, 10:06 AM
  #13  
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,049
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Company representatives who deal with the public should be trained to handle even the most unpleasant customer, especially when the problem involves arcane rules that most customers don't understand.

It seems to me this situation could have been handled better, assuming the customer explained her complete situation to the agent. Why didn't they think to cancel the second ticket, and amend the return date on the first ticket? There would probably be change fees involved, but I think they can waive those if there are good reasons, such as a death or illness. Even if they weren't waived, the customer would probably have come out better than she did.

So as unpleasant as the OP sounds, I think this airline did not deliver good service.
clevelandbrown is offline  
Old Aug 23rd, 2014, 10:11 AM
  #14  
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 72,795
Likes: 0
Received 50 Likes on 7 Posts
>>Why didn't they think to cancel the second ticket, and amend the return date on the first ticket? There would probably be change fees involved, <<

My guess is that <i>was</i> suggested by USAir - but reading the OP's rant, she probably rejected paying a change fee.
janisj is offline  
Old Aug 23rd, 2014, 11:00 AM
  #15  
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 10,563
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Unfortunately we will never hear the other side of the story.
jacketwatch is offline  
Old Aug 29th, 2014, 11:58 AM
  #16  
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 97,182
Received 12 Likes on 11 Posts
I am sorry for all your family troubles but when you don't show for the 1st flight on an itinerary, yes it cancels any subsequent flights.
suze is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Original Poster
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Danielle811
Europe
8
Dec 22nd, 2015 08:22 AM
TomTaylorWrites
Asia
0
Jan 23rd, 2014 07:32 PM
Wednesday
Air Travel
29
Feb 1st, 2007 07:28 PM
Marko
Canada
13
May 28th, 2006 07:41 PM
hsk218
Air Travel
1
May 28th, 2004 01:43 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On



Contact Us - Manage Preferences - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information -