nasty passenger w/flask

Jun 8th, 2006, 10:13 AM
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I'd like to know what would have happened if the whino had gotten violent once airborne!

Picture the nightmare:

Would they have called for Fighter Jets and escorted the plane down in an emergency landing?

Would the whole airport then have to be closed down for hours? Would several planes have to then be diverted thus snagging the entire system for hours? Would there have then been another scene like the one in December when the guy got shot?

It also occurred to me thus : We're blaming the FA but...Mayhap she did call the captain and ask his opinion...mayhap he's the one who couldn't be bothered?
How big was this drunk anyway? I have her pictured as a tiny, little old lady dressed immaculately in a pink suit, blond haired with perfect makeup and a big diamond ring!
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Jun 8th, 2006, 10:36 AM
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No way, JAGIRL. She was on the large end of the spectrum. I am 50 and size 14; she seemed to be about my age but a size 20, very stocky from top to bottom w/neck of a football player. She looked like she could do some damage.

Oh- I forgot one other thing. I also knew she'd be trouble because as soon as she got on (after me) she took my bag (a samsonite business case on wheels) out of the overhead above her head and put her bag in there, and told me she needed hers there so she could get into it (maybe for the extra flasks?), and then she left mine on the floor in front of my seat. The man on the other side of me very nicely took it and put it up in the overhead bin over his head. I guess this was clue #1 on her personality. I had just read a thread on here the week before about a passenger who did this (took a bag out of the overhead and just left it on the floor to make room for his bag) and I thought, "I can't believe someone would do that!"- and then this happened to me-- that thread was like a bad premonition. And this is the same lady who then told me that my stuff on the floor was impinging on her space.

Some people are raised in barns it seems.

kuranosuke, I think the FA was just trying to avoid conflict, and she succeeded. I can't imagine that if a FA went to the captain that a captain would ignore this and not make a decision and do something about it while we were still on the ground during those 3 hrs we sat there.
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Jun 8th, 2006, 10:38 AM
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LOL JAGIRL,

Are you picturing Mary Kay?

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Jun 8th, 2006, 10:48 AM
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no, DEFINITELY not MARY KAY! I was in Dallas in summer of 1998 during the really bad heat wave (>100 dgrees for like 17 days straight) and was staying at the hotel in the Intercontinental Group downtown (can't think of the name- the Adolphus! that's it) and guess who was having their convention there? MARY KAY. I couldn't get in the elevator without being overwhelmed w/floral perfume and big hair and flower leis all over.

No this lady was no Mary Kay. She could have used the makeup and the perfume help. She looked like she'd been up all night, very rough, kind of bull-doggish to eb honest. But she did in fact have a girdle on! I saw it when she leaned over and her blouse came up.

OK, enough of my cat claws. I was trying to be civilized, but now I am getting more angry about the whole thing.
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Jun 8th, 2006, 10:48 AM
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I assume that the alky was behaving herself when the FA was around, because I think the FA would have handled it differently if she had been the subject of the abuse.
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Jun 8th, 2006, 11:10 AM
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jagirl, just curious, were you fka spygirl?
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Jun 8th, 2006, 02:09 PM
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emd:
She took your bag out of the overhead bin?????????
I would have lost it right there. You are a much better person than I.

ken:
I think your right the female james bond is back

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Jun 8th, 2006, 02:14 PM
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i don't think so...unless some good medication is involved.
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Jun 9th, 2006, 08:07 AM
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I just had this picture in my head of a grouchy little old lady like Maxine (is that her name??) on those Hallmark cards!

kuranosuke
Nope...sorry to disappoint. Not fka spygirl. I haven't bumped into any of her posts either.

emd
Curiouser and curiouser!! :-?
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Jun 9th, 2006, 10:59 AM
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I am reading all this this in sympathy because of an incident that happened to us in December 2004 on USAir. It was a short one hour flight at 12:30 p.m. from CMH-PHL. The plane was on time, it was Friday afternoon and everyone was happy. An obviously drunk businessman in the seat across the row from us started yelling at the FA that he thought he would be served lunch on the plane, he started yelling and using filthy language at the poor FA. When he found out we wouldnt' be getting peanuts or pretzels, he got up from his seat and raised a fist. Well, needless to say, that was his downfall. We got to find out who the air marshall was on the plane as he tackled Mr. Alkie and slapped handcuffs on him. He got his own personal escort off the plane when we landed and was handed over to the local police/sheriff. And who says they don't show movies any more on short flights!
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Jun 9th, 2006, 02:13 PM
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I'm amazed at the number of drunk passengers there are but there does seem to be fewer than there used to by - thankfully. This one must have kept his mouth shut before he boarded.
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Jun 9th, 2006, 06:01 PM
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aliska, i LOVE the air marshall story!!!
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Jun 9th, 2006, 06:14 PM
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Jagirl

count your blessings !

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Jun 9th, 2006, 07:31 PM
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Nuh-uh, emd. I think people raised in barns behave infinitely better than this obnoxious broad ever did.
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Jun 10th, 2006, 04:51 AM
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on second thought, she was probably raised by an alcoholic parent...

I have to add to this that in my past life I was an alcohol and drug rehab nurse. I have some understanding of the power of the disease on a personal level too; I was involved with someone who was in a 12 step program once. And this was a real slap of what an addiction can do to a person, sitting right next to me on the plane. Really very very sad. If this woman had decency somewhere inside of her (and I am sure she did), it doesn't have a chance of getting out while she is living for her flask.
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Jun 10th, 2006, 10:08 AM
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As a flight attendant with 33 years of flying with a major USA carrier, I feel the need to chime in here. I cannot believe that the flight attendant did not do anything-either confront the passenger or at least pass it on to the onboard leader or captain!!!Was the flight attendant young/new? Alcohol and flying present many problems which causes me alarm in reading this story.The given is "one drink in the air is worth 2 on the ground". I am very surprised that the f/a did not let the other f/a's in the cabin become aware of the situation so that one of them could have kept an eye on what was going on-ie.watch for the flask to come out of the purse.
I would definitely write United and let them know the situation and what transpired along with a possible description of the f/a you spoke with on the flight. Some airlines are very vigilant about the liquor situation and others are not-this particular situation could have been handled in a tactful way despite it all. I have run into these situations numerous times in my career and am surprised at the United f/a's lack of wanting to take care of it.Let us know how it ends with your letter........
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Jun 13th, 2006, 02:14 PM
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Please keep us posted re: any responses from UA.

And wouldn't TSA or other agencies have been interested in this, too?
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Jun 14th, 2006, 10:14 AM
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topping for the Irish
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Jun 17th, 2006, 02:42 PM
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I went to London with my daughter a few years ago and on the trip back (BA) there were some college men onboard. They started drinking beer and after awhile, a male FA just started giving them 6-packs! The only plus to this story was they were loud for awhile but finally settled down and went to sleep, so maybe the FA was smarter than I thought. Seemed so wrong at the time.

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Jun 17th, 2006, 11:05 PM
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This part interests me:

"the FA would have to personally see her pouring and drinking it to intervene and that she could not search her purse."

Well, maybe the FA can't search the bag, but don't we all consent to search of our person and belongings when we fly? Surely the Capt could have performed a "bag search", had he been contacted.
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