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Brandessa Nov 9th, 2005 08:48 AM

Fully Reclining Seats
Which airlines offer the fully reclining seats in first/business class?

P_M Nov 9th, 2005 09:01 AM

British Airways offers those in Business Class.

rkkwan Nov 9th, 2005 09:12 AM

Where are you flying from, and where to?

Very few domestic routes have them, but many (not all) international airlines do have lie-flat seats in First Class. In international business class, many older seats are about 170-degrees but not totally flat, and many newer ones are flat, but angled so some find them sliding down.

Few has true flat and horizontal seats in business.

P_M Nov 9th, 2005 09:23 AM

My apologies, I should have asked the question rkkwan asked. If it's a flight within the US, then British Airways isn't an option.

Patty Nov 9th, 2005 09:50 AM


Brandessa Nov 9th, 2005 10:36 AM

Planning a trip from the states to Israel.

rkkwan Nov 9th, 2005 11:34 AM

If you're flying from New York City, then you can fly non-stop on either CO (from EWR) or El Al (JFK). Continental's BusinessFirst on its 2-class 777 is a very nice product, though the seats are not completely flat.

El Al use 3-class 747-400. Don't know too much about it, except many people prefer even US airlines to El Al. From the site that Patty mentioned (, EY's C-class is not flat, and F-class is angled flat.

There are lots of connections via Europe. But 1) most Europe-TLV fligths leave late night, while US-Europe flights arrive in the morning, meaning a long layover in Europe; 2) Many airlines use intra-Europe-style narrowbody to TLV, meaning basically coach seat for that leg.

I believe BA uses 767 for LHR-TLV, together with their true-flat Atlantic business or first, and non-stops from many cities in the US to LHR, it may be a good choice, unless your flight arrives at Gatwick (LGW) instead.

Lufthansa uses A330 from FRA, so should have a real business class as well.

Gardyloo Nov 9th, 2005 12:35 PM

BA is switching from "old" Club Europe on the LHR-TLV run to New Club World beds, plus they're starting 777 service (as well as converted 767s) on that route. Thus JFK-LHR-TLV could all be in the new chairs on BA.

I've heard that LY (El Al) is looking at new business beds, but no idea on rollout dates.

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