Experience with 1k "guest" upgrades?
A good friend has "given" me one of his 6 systemwide upgrades for the year--he is United 1k member. I'm traveling RT SFO to Rome and bought an upgradeable Economy Plus ticket.
One leg--IMO the most important one-upgraded almost right away (the ORD--FCO leg). Any sense of what to expect, and when, for SFO-ORD, FCO-Dulles, Dulles-SFO legs? I'm FF on Delta, and only have 130k miles on United, so general member. The flights are outbound Sept 18 and return Oct 3. |
I BELIEVE (and the super experts can correct me) that if the other legs do not clear before your travel date that they won't clear with just the one SWU.
There is also some anecdotal reporting that agents at the airport require the donor to be available by phone EVEN THOUGH the process was handled and the U/G's cleared. SO if there's any possibility to have the donor available by phone I'd suggest it. At the very least you should know his email, phone and UA Mileage Plus number. |
PS you also do need one SWU each direction.
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Thanks; sounds less smooth than my friend thought....
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This is pretty much what you should expect. First, you do need one SWU for each direction. My experience (I'm 1K) is that all legs on your itinerary initially appear as waitlisted and they often don't clear until pretty close to the day of the flight, or even not until I'm at the gate. Your main risk is that a "minor" leg clears but the "major" leg doesn't and your SWU is sort of wasted, but you can police this to protect yourself. In your case, the more important leg has cleared, so you're okay on this. Your SFO-ORD upgrade is in the highest priority group. What kind of plane is flying SFO-ORD? If it's a 757 or larger, you should consider the upgrade pretty safe. If it's an A320 (12 F seats), a little iffy, but likely to clear. An A319 (8 F seats), then you may get the E+ you paid for.
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Thanks so much, Eric. Very helpful. I'll see if my friend used 2 or 1swu's. The other key leg 4 me is of course. fCO -dulles; do you know if the swu on the way out gives any leverage (halo effect) for upgrading with miles on return?
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No, they're completely separate.
Have you checked your itinerary? If you're waitlisted for the return upgrade, then they sponsored you for upgrades both ways, but you should ask nonetheless. |
Yes, I am listed as wait listed for all other segments for th fc/business and confirmed in the Econ plus seats.
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does an SWU get you into E+? I was not aware of that....
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No I paid for E-plus.
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I think that if your upgrade clears, it will clear according to your status and not the status of the person who gave you the SWU. If you have no status it may be very close to the time of the flight. Even with the SWU, as a General Member you would not clear until the 1Ks, 1Ps, 2Ps clear. It could be earlier if the flight is pretty empty up front and not many people trying for upgrades.
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It appears that UA changed their upgrade prioritization about a year ago. They used to use the sponsor's status, but they now use the traveler's status. This was news to me, but I haven't sponsored anyone in over a year.
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Oh no! Bad luck for me with the new policy.
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You and your upgrade sponsor ought to read this:
http://tinyurl.com/39z7zc3 Especially: "2. The tried-and-true old fashioned way to sponsor upgrades" and the part about the auditor's coupon. You are obviously not on the 6AM SFO-ORD flight because that flight has lots of upgrade seats available. Be sure to read the part about "Changing itinerary, dates, etc." in section 3. You can expect the domestic upgrade to not clear because there will be lots of GS and 1K fliers (and 2P, 1P) between those city pairs, including connections to/from Europe and S. America. But there is hope. You can expect FCO-IAD to not clear, but maybe. FWIW, economy has only 11 seats available and business class has 21. I am surprised to see that it is a 777. Your FCO-ORD is a new-config 767 with the lie-flat seats in C. It is possible that IAD-SFO clears but FCO-IAD does not. Some would consider it to be a waste, which it would be if your sponsor could use it (maybe for you) on an international flight. The SWU would otherwise be expired on January 31, 2011. |
I would be checking just about every day to see if there was a schedule change, equipment change, or change in waitlist status for each flight.
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Yes I am definitely checking daily --
Thanks much for the inside scoop; here's the itinerary for now: San Francisco, CA (SFO) Chicago, IL (ORD) Flight Depart Arrive Cabin Seats United 0134 SFO 08:35 AM Sat, Sep 18, 2010 ORD 02:58 PM Sat, Sep 18, 2010 First (NF) Flight: Waitlisted Upgrade: Waitlisted N/A Select seat(s) San Francisco, CA (SFO) Chicago, IL (ORD) Flight Depart Arrive Cabin Seats United 0134 SFO 08:35 AM Sat, Sep 18, 2010 ORD 02:58 PM Sat, Sep 18, 2010 Economy (W) Flight: Confirmed 10D Economy Plus Chicago, IL (ORD) Rome, Italy (FCO) Flight Depart Arrive Cabin Seats United 0904 ORD 06:05 PM Sat, Sep 18, 2010 FCO 10:20 AM Sun, Sep 19, 2010 Arrives next day Business (NC) Flight: Confirmed Upgrade: Confirmed 06K Rome, Italy (FCO) Washington, DC (IAD) Flight Depart Arrive Cabin Seats United 0967 FCO 11:10 AM Sun, Oct 3, 2010 IAD 03:09 PM Sun, Oct 3, 2010 Business (NC) Flight: Waitlisted Upgrade: Waitlisted N/A Select seat(s) Rome, Italy (FCO) Washington, DC (IAD) Flight Depart Arrive Cabin Seats United 0967 FCO 11:10 AM Sun, Oct 3, 2010 IAD 03:09 PM Sun, Oct 3, 2010 Economy (H) Flight: Confirmed 21H Economy Plus Washington, DC (IAD) San Francisco, CA (SFO) Flight Depart Arrive Cabin Seats United 0975 IAD 05:30 PM Sun, Oct 3, 2010 SFO 08:13 PM Sun, Oct 3, 2010 First (NF) Flight: Waitlisted Upgrade: Waitlisted N/A Select seat(s) Washington, DC (IAD) San Francisco, CA (SFO) Flight Depart Arrive Cabin Seats United 0975 IAD 05:30 PM Sun, Oct 3, 2010 SFO 08:13 PM Sun, Oct 3, 2010 Economy (H) Flight: Confirmed 17J Economy Plus |
The SFO-ORD is listed as a 752; last 2 listed as 777's.
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My friend surfaced (been traveling) and indeed used 2 of his upgrades.
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I meant to write:
Your <b>ORD-FCO</b> is a new-config 767 with the lie-flat seats in C. |
annw, your itin info that you posted looks good. You are confirmed on all four flights and waitlisted for upgrades on three. Your fare bases W and H are correct. No more upgrade certs are needed.
You just need to get your upgrade sponsor to the airport and sign a document and get a copy of it. Right? |
<<You just need to get your upgrade sponsor to the airport and sign a document and get a copy of it. Right???..
Thanks mrw for all your help -- I am completely mystified for this part. On a trip to Hawaii a year ago the same friend upgraded me and the upgrade went through at the airport, no mention of certificates/coupons, etc. Is this a new policy? I couldn't discern that from the flyertalk link. It won't be a problem -- my friend will be going to Hawaii in the next couple of weeks (staying at our condo, which is partly why he is so generous with the upgrades :)) -- and thus will be at the airport. But I will ask him what he knows about all this. |
there is quite a bit of recent anecdotal evidence that UA is now requiring the sponsor to have signed a "bluey" sponsor form and that they will try to call the sponsor if the U/G doesn't clear till the airport.
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Thanks mztery -- I emailed my friend; he thinks most of it is handled on line now but will check when he heads to Honolulu this weekend. Will report back.
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I don't know how old that info at ft is but I think they keep it up to date. It is worth verifying with UA if anything else needs to be done. Your itin info above certainly looks right.
I tried to use a SWU for my brother but he didn't get the upgrade. This was for PIT-ORD and I new it would expire otherwise. This was 1 to 3 years ago. When I called, after the fact, I think they told me that I had to come to the airport or something. One thing (maybe) different between the sponsored upgrade that cleared for your domestic flight is that it could have been a CR1 and not a SWU. I don't know if/why that would make a difference, tho. |
Thanks again; my pal is checking on this for me since he is flying tomorrow, to see if he needs to do anything. He also checked the space available on my flights; the FCO-IAD segment has 20 spaces in business; the domestic legs have 12 and 13 spaces in First respectively. He thought that looked pretty good. He and his mom are flying over a few days after I do, and they don't have their upgrades yet either. Of course if they use the passenger's status and not the sponsor's, he may well get his and I will not. Fingers crossed!
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So the update: I did keep the Business Class O'Hare-Rome (nice lie-flat bed on a 777).
I did not get upgraded for the SFO-O'Hare segment as predicted. For the return trip, I had to come back early due to a family emergency, so I booked with miles a First Class ticket from Rome to IAD and then had E+ from IAD-SFO, for 67,000 or so miles. I had bought trip insurance through United and should be getting a refund for the unused segment from Rome-IAD (that still had not upgraded). Thanks all. |
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