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wally34949 Apr 5th, 2005 07:45 AM

Airline Safety Records
 
If you visit the site www.airsafe.com, you will find out the safety records of airlines, including the number of crashes where one or more individuals were killed.

Here is a few from the States:
American Airlines 13
Continental 5
Delta 6
North West 4
United 11
US Air 9

And from the world:
British Airways 2
Virgin Airways 0
KLM 3
IcelandAir 0
Aer Lingus 0
Finnair 0
Former Soviet Union (for the mother-in-law) 22
Sabena 0
Tap (Air Portugal) 1
Air New Zealand 1
Qantas 0

One can make the assumption that making passengers in coach pay $5 for a glass of wine (The U.S. Airlines) doesn't help an airline's safety record!!!

mjz Apr 5th, 2005 07:57 AM

Wow, you seem pretty fixated on having to pay for drinks in coach internationally as well as the seat belt light almost always being on. Why would you ever fly a domestic airline internationally? If they had a really low price?

NoFlyZone Apr 5th, 2005 07:59 AM

Extremely misleading data.

The absolute number of crashes is not as important as the RATE of crashes. And, if you do that, you will see that KLM has a higher rate than American and Delta combined.

rkkwan Apr 5th, 2005 08:17 AM

80% of wally34949's posts talk about the $4-5 charge on alcoholic drinks; the other 20% trash Continental.

Don't see anything new he's posted. I'm getting tired...

JamesA Apr 5th, 2005 09:42 AM

Utterly pointless and misleading, why quote world airlines and then put in a figure for the previous Soviet Union and bunch all the operations into 1?

Waste of time

JohnWM Apr 5th, 2005 09:47 AM

The aviation world actually does seem to be getting safer nowadays. In cases of doubt, I've consulted www.AirDisaster.com

wally34949 Apr 5th, 2005 10:52 AM

Talking about shooting the messenger! I need a drink! Flight attendant, could I have a glass of wine; what? Five dollars--you've got to be kidding me.

P_M Apr 5th, 2005 03:28 PM

I don't see it as shooting the messenger, they are merely shooting down an inaccurate and misleading message.

Enjoy your drink. ((D))





Have another, no charge. ((D))

wally34949 Apr 6th, 2005 02:50 AM

Thanks for the drink, P.M. I have found it interesting that no one would choose an airline that has never crashed over an airline that has crashed. I realize that JetBlue and EasyJet haven't been around as long as some of the others, some airlines have more flights than others, and some crashes have only had small numbers of deaths. Then you have the size of the plane to contend with.

I just thought people would want to fly on an airline with no crashes.

Interesting.

mrwunrfl Apr 6th, 2005 03:30 AM

In Rainman wasn't there a scene where Dustin Hoffman's character wouldn't fly unless it was Qantas because they had no fatal crashes?

Even if those data were useful, it may be a bit dated. Didn't Sabena go belly up 4Q of 2001 or beginning of 2002?

Kath Apr 6th, 2005 06:01 AM

Isn't Easyjet just a reincarnation of Valuejet who crashed the plane in the Florida Everglades?

P_M Apr 6th, 2005 06:08 AM

The odds of dying in a plane crash are so slim. That's why most people do not look at data like this. My main concerns are price, schedule, service, and whether or not I get FF miles for flying that airline.

P. S. Where's Southwest? I don't recall they have ever had a fatal crash. Or does this list only include airlines that fly internationally?

rkkwan Apr 6th, 2005 06:09 AM

Kath - That's Airtran you're thinking about. Easyjet is a European low-cost carrier.

Kath Apr 6th, 2005 06:18 AM

Oh, sorry to besmirch Easyjet then.

otto Apr 6th, 2005 06:40 AM

(formally jasper here rkkwan...)
wally, that's actually inaccurate. aer lingus had a crash, and so did air france concord.
and btw...get over the drink thing.


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