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Jul 29th, 2005, 08:18 AM
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Julian
Would love to meet up.
I used to more active on the Europe forum originally in late 90s and early this decade and tried to organise a GTG but we were due to hold it on the 16th September 2001 and none of us wanted to go ahead, not in the mood, you can figure out why.
And after that I was not on Fodors Europe much, more on the Africa board.
Would love to do a GTG.
I organise them often enough for members of another forum I participate in lots (DPC.com) so it would be good to do a Fodors Africa one.
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Jul 29th, 2005, 08:36 AM
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I'm another one who's planning the next trip on the flight home from the current one! I think all of us here suffer from what I call "away-sickness", rather than home-sickness.
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Jul 29th, 2005, 08:36 AM
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Kavey,

I believe there is some sort of African culture celebration going on now in London, with exhibits at some of the museums and various musical and artistic events, as well as the Imax movies. Might be fun...

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Jul 29th, 2005, 10:07 AM
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Back to withdrawal symptoms...

Editing the enormous collection of photos I've taken is a way of reliving my past trips...if I go through them in the order they were taken, it's almost like being there again. Reading my journal at the same time really brings it all back.

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Jul 29th, 2005, 11:12 AM
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Julian,

regarding this 'Prides' movie: There is a 'Prides' DVD out since last Christmas, available both in UK and in the US.

It's a 90 min BBC production, and I would call it the next generation of 'The Lion King'. It tells the story of a pride in the Serengeti/Mara, performed by real lions, with added facial computer animation when they're talking.

This is really a great film for kids, and every adult Africa lover, too!

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Jul 29th, 2005, 11:25 AM
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Hi Mitch,

It turns out that the one I had in mind is actually called 'Roar - Lions of the Kalahari'. Sadly, the last showing was today at 10am.

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Jul 29th, 2005, 11:29 AM
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Yes, I'm a big Tim Liversedge fan and I'm desperately waiting that this one is released on DVD.

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Jul 29th, 2005, 11:33 AM
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BTW, the Prides DVD sounds great -- I think I'll see if my local video place has it in.

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Jul 29th, 2005, 12:34 PM
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I share your pain...After one trip, I too am bushwacked and think about another trip on a daily basis. I really want to go back in Sept 2006 but not sure if we will pull it off.

Kavey..I am shocked you are going so long with out a fix! How dreadful for you...
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Jul 29th, 2005, 12:58 PM
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Ruthie,
I also feel your pain. I'm supposed to go back in June 2006 but have had some weird health news which *may* force me to postpone--and can you believe that was the first thing I thought of??? "OMG, does this mean I can't go to Tanzania next summer?!"

Have you considered a Kenya/Rwanda/Uganda trip for Feb./March? Maybe it could be "economical"?
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Jul 29th, 2005, 01:29 PM
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Leely, sorry to hear about your "weird" health news - keep the positive energy flowing with thoughts of Tanzania and I'm sure whatever it is will resolve very quickly.

I'm not sure about the Rwanda / Uganda trip - don't know if GovernorPhil would be up to that - of course you understand that personally I'm superfit and could undertake several days of treking and still run twice the distance of the Kili marathon (LOL - husband picks himself up off the floor!!).

Bwanamitch, I saw "Prides" on TV in the UK a few months back. I enjoyed it but GovernorPhil didn't as it was too Disney-like for him. They have also just shown the Lion King (on Animal Planet I think) - not the disney film but a serious programme about a male lion growing up. Only caught half of it so I'm hoping they'll repeat it soon.

This is the way i get my fix - poring over the TV listings to find anything and everything related to Africa!
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Jul 29th, 2005, 02:21 PM
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RuthieC,

Perhaps you could carry Governor Phil during any trekking?

Thanks for the good thoughts--I am sure everything is fine. But I'm a worrier; it's my hobby.

re: Animal Planet. What I've seen of their Africa programs I've found kind of...sensationalist? I'll have to check them out more. Especially because we won't be seeing The Elephant Diaries in the US for another year.
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Jul 29th, 2005, 03:34 PM
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Leely,
Sorry to hear of your health issues. I hope everything turns out to be fine. When I saw your post, I thought 'naturally that would be the first thought on anyone's mind when presented with weird health news, wouldn't it?'

RuthieC,
I don't know where else you've been, but Kenya should be fairly dry that time of year.
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Jul 29th, 2005, 04:37 PM
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I, too, suffer from withdrawal symptoms daily! When I got back from MalaMala last year I felt "complete" and I thought my addiction was finally over. I was happy/sad to feel that way. But it didn't last long and here I am - thinking of Africa every day.


Last night at dinner with friends, my husband said - Oh, by the way, I'm going fishing August 12th. So I got out my calendar to write it down and just looked at August and said - Oh, by the way, I'm probably going to Africa the last week of August. It just popped out of my mouth - and we hadn't even discussed it. So I guess I need to decide if I'm really going and make some plans.

Ruthie, I don't know how you can stand to be in Cape Town and so close to the animals and not go!

And Leely, I'm sorry to hear about your health issues and hopeful that you make it to Tanzania as planned.

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Jul 31st, 2005, 12:20 AM
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Mitch, I saw Pride when it was on TV a few months back. Clearly it's aimed at kids and I can see why they would enjoy it. From my POV, whilst I liked some aspects of it and liked the idea I found it more than a little frustrating that they created a storyline that had such little to do with real lion life - for example, a vegetarian lion cub who left her family for another pride...

I'm sad I missed the Kalahari Lions film but at least I have a large selection of recorded documentaries to watch...

Julian if you're London based you're welcome to borrow the tapes. Oh and I also use photos and journals to relive the trip - perhaps, if anyone can find it, I can finish the trip report here of my 2004 trip? I can't find the thread though... And I am intending to visit the "African" garden at the British Museum in a couple of weeks. I haven't attended the cultural stuff as most of it is music and poetry related and not my thing really...

Leely, sorry too to hear you've been suffering health problems that may affect your travel plans.

Celia, away-sickness - that's EXACTLY what it is!!!

Sundowner--- woo hoo and good for you! MAKE IT HAPPEN!

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Jul 31st, 2005, 12:21 AM
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Wallybrenda, thanks for your thoughts - I have been speaking to Pete about it and he's said, tentatively, that if I can find a CHEAP way to get to Africa in the 2nd half of next year, we may be able to do it!!!!!!
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Jul 31st, 2005, 06:27 AM
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Kavey,

You know, 50 days in South Africa and Botswana, a couple weeks in East Africa, the Galapagos Islands and Antarctica all within about, what 18 months?, will tend to get a person in the position of not being able to go on safari for awhile! Kind of like the guy who wins the hot dog eating contest then saying this tummy hurts.

But, we are here to help each other, despite our excesses!

I am the last person who would be able to assist you with East Africa, but for Zambia, if you were to visit November 01st 2006 - May 31 2007, you would be able to get green season rates, as follows:

Puku Ridge - $300 pppns
Luangwa River Lodge - $280 pppns for the first three nights, $230 pppns for any additional nights
Most other permanenst lodges in South Luangwa, such as Nkwali (Robin Pope Safari) and Kapani (Norman Carr Safaris) would be about the same price as Luangwa River Lodge. All bushcamps will close for the season between November 01st - May 31st.

Personally, to get a bit of variety, I would consider a safari that would start in South Luangwa and end in Hwange, at Makalolo Plains, unless your budget will be such that you will want to visit only one park.

This is just an estimate for a November / December 2006 safari (but would also apply to April / May 2006 should you be able to move up the time table). I don't do budget lodges, but I do do luxury lodges on the cheap, so here you go:

Lusaka to Mfuwe (South Luangwa) light air transfer - $300 pp, return air included

Puku Ridge - 3 nights = $900 pps

Luangwa River Lodge 4 nights = $1070 pps

Return flight to Lusaka (already accounted in cost)

Light air transfer from Lusaka to
Livingstone - $200 pp (return air included)

Road transfer from Livingstone to
Victoria Falls Airport - $50 pp + visa fee for Zimbabwe, return cost included.

Victoria Falls Airport to Hwange - $250 pp, return flight included

Makalolo Plains - 4 nights - $1375 pp

Return flight to Victoria Falls. (cost already accounted for)

Road transfer to Livingstone. Cost already accounted for.

Return flight to Lusaka. Cost already accounted for.

1 night at Taj Pamodzi in Lusaka. $125 pps, including airport transfers. This is necessary for early mornign (9AM) flight back to London. The Taj is the same Taj from India so you know this is a luxury hotel. Reputedly the finest hotel in Lusaka, for whatever that is worth.

Grand total for 11 night luxury safari = $4,270 pp

A two night add on in Victoria Falls at a place like Stanley Safari lodge would about $405 pp to the cost, for a 13 night total of $4,675 pp.

Taking Hwange and Victoria Falls out of the mix, to spend 10 nights in South Luangwa only would be as follows:

Lusaka to Mfuwe (South Luangwa) light air transfer - $300 pp, return air included

Puku Ridge - 5 nights = $1500 pps

Luangwa River Lodge 5 nights = $1300 pps

Return flight to Lusaka (already accounted in cost)

1 night at Taj Pamodzi = $125 pps, including road transfers

Grand Total for 11 nights in South Luangwa at luxury lodges (and final overnight at the Taj) = $3225 pps


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Jul 31st, 2005, 06:29 AM
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(Correction...these rates would apply for a visit between Nov 01st, 2005 to May 31 2006).
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Jul 31st, 2005, 06:47 AM
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Rocco, I was about to say it wasn't 50 days but then I did the math and realised it was over that! <BLUSH> But it was only 5 nights in East Africa, not two weeks! But yes, we did do Antarctica and Galapagos too!

Believe me, I don't pretend for a moment that our current financial limits are anything but self-made!!!



So when I say budget I'm thinking more in the region of £1000 per person MAX (excluding flights) for the entire trip, whatever the trip consists of. So, what's that, about $3400 between the two of us, not each, for everything except the international flights.
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Jul 31st, 2005, 08:16 PM
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I got home Wednesday night and have had INTENSE dreams every night since, and I wake up believing I am still in the bush, the sounds ("work haaaarder, work haaaarder"), the smells, bouncing around in the car....how can this be? I can't afford to go back so soon but can my soul afford not to?
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