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Nov 26th, 2011, 01:08 PM
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Why don't safari companies include prices on website?

I'd like to be able to browse for possibilities on the web, but hardly any of the companies I've looked at seem to provide prices. Am I missing something? I know the prices vary depending on time of year, itinerary, and so on, but it seems if you're looking for a group trip of a set itinerary, that they'd list the prices. Anyone know of companies that do include prices?

I'm considering a going by myself (so may go on a group tour) to Kenya or Tanzania, first time, in January/February. I'm looking for something in the moderate range; considering OAT but am also open to local companies in Africa. Looking at about 8-9 days.

Suggestions?

If I thought I could afford it, I'd like to add Uganda or Rwanda to see gorillas.
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Nov 26th, 2011, 01:10 PM
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Budget = $5000-$6000 (which would need to include airfare from US)
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Nov 26th, 2011, 01:32 PM
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Here's one - Thomsons Safaris
http://www.thomsonsafaris.com/sa_tsclassicindex.shtml

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Nov 26th, 2011, 05:30 PM
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Good Earth Tours includes prices for all their safaris, a good point of comparison for your planning. You can also make changes in their itineraries & lodgings. www.goodearthtours.com
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Nov 26th, 2011, 06:45 PM
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Try this site, more prices than most:

http://www.eyesonafrica.net/
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Nov 26th, 2011, 07:18 PM
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This commercial travel site has a pretty good summary of "rack rates" by safari camp. So while not a tour package deal, you can get some feel for costs per night per person, pppn, of many camps, may countries.
http://www.eyesonafrica.net/safari-p...rack-rates.htm

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Nov 26th, 2011, 07:28 PM
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In addition to those mentioned...

Eastern and Southern Safaris
The Africa Adventure Company
e-gnu.com (Greenlife Africa)
Lion World Tours
Gate 1
Natural Habitat
AndBeyond
International Expeditions
Tauck Tours

...to name a few. Hard to beat the OAT pricing for a group trip, though. I think OAT does gorilla extensions.
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Nov 26th, 2011, 07:38 PM
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Any that specialize in Zimbabwe?
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Nov 27th, 2011, 01:49 AM
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Alan Fox, Chairman & CEO Great listed safari sales
http://www.tourvacationstogo.com/fir...ortedtours.cfm

www.friendlyplanet.com best price points sales on travelzoo.com have seen Kenya packages including air
from $1795 this year.

jenmansafaris.com Garth Jenman best for local expertise.

Careful many scammers I never wire money always pay with CC

And insuremytrip.com independently.
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Nov 27th, 2011, 01:50 AM
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LOTS of bad reviews on the boards on Gate 1 and OAT

Check bbb.org and ripoffreport.com
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Nov 27th, 2011, 03:38 AM
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I guess it depends on what type of website it is.

- If it is a website of a lodge itself; most show their prices. Some ask to contact them. They lose my business right away.
- If it is a website of a lodge group, like &Beyond or Wilderness Safaris; they all show prices AFAIK.
- If it is a website of a tour operator or safari outfitter; most of them don't show prices because it would be way too much effort to keep up. Thing is; their offering includes all the above (individual lodges AND lodge groups).

Here's what I do; I contact only the last type of company, and ask them for prices. What most people don't know is that they should give you the same prices as advertised on the sites of the lodges they sell.

It's as simple as this; every bednight price contains a percentage for the company making the sale. If the lodge sells directly, it all goes to the lodge. If an agency sells it, they are entitled to that percentage (it's their profit). Lodges will not undercut prices of agencies, as they reach a much bigger market than the lodge itself.
Agencies that come up with higher prices than the lodges themselves are not honest, or have extra costs to "hide" (typically a US agency will have a bigger or additional personnel cost, compared to a local - ic African - agency).

In my opinion, working with a local TA gives you the biggest choice, for the correct prices.

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Nov 27th, 2011, 04:23 AM
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Wow, thanks for all this! I'll get busy with my research. I was thinking OAT mainly because it seemed so easy. I'll check these out and see if I can come up with something better.
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Nov 27th, 2011, 04:29 AM
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I found this on Good Earth's site in the budget camping section...

"...hardly you can hear campers being attacked by animals..."


I guess the animals have learned to be quiet when they attack people. Yikes.
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Nov 27th, 2011, 06:46 AM
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That comment is hilarious, althom!
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Nov 27th, 2011, 07:36 AM
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They went on to say that animal attacks are extremely rare, but that phrase sure jumped out at me.

Or maybe the tents have sound-proofing? tee hee
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Nov 28th, 2011, 07:09 AM
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The animals don't want to come in contact with humans any more than humans with them. Of course, monkeys can fly thru the trees, but it sure wouldn't be something to worry much about if on a 'camping' safari.

Lots of 'set' 'group' tour operators listed above.

And for those individual private tour operators that show room/tent prices, might be the 'rack' (highest) rates, others might be what they are offering, but may change by season. It's a guideline, but often not set till you establish an itinerary. Besides, of course, costs for: meet/treet and transfers, guide/driver, game drives and/or other activities, flights (if taking any), taxes, etc.
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Nov 28th, 2011, 11:35 PM
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Tour operators do not write prices on their websites may be due to fluctuations in the exchange rate or speculations in the market.This has resulted to travelers having to send requests plus the budgets.I think as in every other trade price is necessary and should be included.
Local companies understand the locality hence the options given above are 0k.You need also to verify whether the companies are legitimate.
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Nov 30th, 2011, 03:20 AM
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check out www.africansafarihome.com - they seem to offer starting price ranges for all their safaris and accommodation
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Dec 25th, 2011, 07:50 PM
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Check out http://www.destinationservices.co.ke on their itineraries page they have included prices for different seasons
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