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Whatever happened to the "good ole' days" on this forum?!

Old Dec 2nd, 2007, 09:54 AM
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No, it wasn't dogs causing the injuries, it was stupid things done by stupid people. But dogs running loose don't help the situation! And people wonder why their dogs get lost! Duh!

Before the '09 trip, my immediate return to Africa will be another last minute trip, similar to last year. I'm trying to work through the red tape now! Just hope there is availability at some camps somewhere and that the single supplements don't kill me! Yikes!

I know you must be counting down the days until yours!

Lynn- real photos with Cindy and me on camel-back, with Mr. Dribbles, (the camel behind me I affectionately named) drooling all over my shoulder and leg. He was hilarious!
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Old Dec 2nd, 2007, 04:00 PM
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Hi guys! I haven't been in an Africa frame of mind lately and have only been reading the posts sporadically here for awhile. Unbelievable, right? (It is to me - first time in 7 years that Africa isn't uppermost in my mind.)

My husband's sister passed away the week before Thanksgiving (51 yrs old) and my grandmother passed away the weekend after Thanksgiving (89 yrs old). That certainly took the wind out of my sails. Although we did have a great Thanksgiving weekend with my whole family (23 of us this year).

We are also planning a kitchen remodel and have agreed on the plan, price and contractors. We should be signing the contract this week. So in the spare time I've gotten by not reading fodors I've been reading kitchen forums and researching appliances etc trying to make sure we do everything right in this kitchen. haha. Also, trying to figure out what to get everyone for Christmas. Now that's a job in itself.

I've already moved the computer out of the kitchen and haven't gotten all the addl harddrives hooked back up yet. I'll try to get that done this week so I can post the camel pictures, Sandy! Flies. There are many, many flies around camels. That I know for sure!
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Old Dec 2nd, 2007, 04:35 PM
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Sundowner, I'm sorry for your losses; that's so hard, especially around holidays. I hope your remodeling goes well enough that you can get back to Africa soon!

Divewop, there are times that things get tense, but I suppose that happens when people are passionate about a subject. I would also hope that we could "discuss" instead of "cuss" when expressing differing opinions!

As to Safarinut's post, it seems to be exactly what Divewop is talking about. I really don't see agents pushing agendas here on the Forum. The editors are quick to knock those out and we're pretty good at spotting 'em, too. I appreciate the expert advice offered by the agents here on Fodors and would hate to see them leave.

I don't agree that that "bigger" means "better". As with any purchase, do your homework and check references, but I would be perfectly willing to use some of the agents that offer their advice here for free, small shop, or not. Safari planning doesn't entail a large office, only a large body of knowledge and attention to detail. I've used David Anderson in Santa Barbara for several safaris. He's been in the business for over 30 years and knows it better than anyone. He's even written a couple of books about Africa. Does it bother me that there's not dozens of people in his office...not at all!
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Old Dec 2nd, 2007, 04:37 PM
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Hey Cindy-
Wondered where you've been.
So sorry to hear about your grandmother with what you just went through with your SIL. Wow, a whole lot on your plate to deal with!
Hope you're doing OK!

Good luck with the kitchen remodel. Remember, rule of thumb is twice the projected time at twice the projected cost! And I know that from experience. But in the end, I'm sure it will all be worth it.
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Old Dec 2nd, 2007, 04:44 PM
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Hi Sandy, thank you.

The deal with Jim was: I paid for the pool and he pays for the kitchen. Jim's nickname among his friend is "Tightwad" so the price for the kitchen is already double what he wants to spend. If it doubles again, we're in trouble! My due diligence on the appliance search may be paying off - I found a one-yr old refrigerator/freezer on craig's list for half the price of new so I'm sure Tightwad will be willing to go used to save $1k.
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Old Dec 2nd, 2007, 06:25 PM
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I think I'm going to focus my attention back on the Latin America forum for a while. Much more civilized...no bickering or insults to be found.
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Old Dec 2nd, 2007, 06:45 PM
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Me too I'm getting out of here.

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Old Dec 2nd, 2007, 06:47 PM
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Please Hills--before you focus on Latin America--remember those of us who are looking forward to your continuation of your trip report!

No pressure--just looking forward to the rest of your trip.


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Old Dec 2nd, 2007, 07:21 PM
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hills27, percy and anyone else considering leaving this forum-PLEASE don't. WE as a group make this forum interesting, informative, and fun, and we all share a love for Africa. We don't have to agree on everything, but that is what makes this forum-the diversity of posters and their likes and dislikes.

Compared to the Europe, U.S. or the Lounge forums, we are a small group and need to stick together-sharing our opinions, recommendations, news stories, trip reports and photos and anything else we want to talk about.

Everyone here contributes in their own way and it would be a shame to see people leave for a wild and nasty weekend worth of posting.

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Old Dec 2nd, 2007, 07:49 PM
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Agree with Dennis. Couldn't say it better.

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Old Dec 2nd, 2007, 07:55 PM
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Agree with Dennis,

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Old Dec 3rd, 2007, 08:39 AM
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For anyone planning on a hiatus, let me quote that high browed TV show of the late 60s and 70s.

"Ya'll come back now, ya hear?"

That would be the Beverly Hillbillies.
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Old Dec 3rd, 2007, 09:17 AM
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Concluding with,

"This has been a Filmways presentation!"
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Old Dec 3rd, 2007, 09:37 AM
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Well I have been on this board primarily since 2005. I got into it in order to plan for my trip to Africa in 2005.

I have always found this board very helpful and enjoyed the people and the subjects. of course every once in a while there are some crazy posts. I just ignore them. I notice there is a 'Ban All Agents' message in all caps. I may look at the the first message and then ignore the rest.

I can't tell you how many lists and boards I have been on where sooner or later things devolve into that "things aren't what they used to be" discussions.

The worst was an XFILES list I was on where it just turned into VOLUMES of email about how terrible the show was and how terrible the people on the list were for daring to like the show.

Oh well, the price of "progress".
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Old Dec 3rd, 2007, 10:58 AM
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I have been on for less than a year,but I have seen similar nonsense. I guess its the nature of these forums and of us humans (which BTW I trust far less than ANY animals. Thats also what brings us together).

These turbulences die down. Its best to not interfere with them.
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Old Dec 3rd, 2007, 11:35 AM
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"Its best to not interfere with them..."

This is exactly one of the problems in this forum (and other places) - not taking responsibility. These nasty things didn't start only a few days ago, they have evolved over the years. How could you expect the "good ol' days" if you're always looking away if something nasty happens?

It took some time for me getting used to this on Fodors.

(This is not meant personally, amolkarnik. I already wanted to post this earlier and just used your line as a hanger.)
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