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Mar 14th, 2006, 09:14 AM
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dlo:
Thanks for the info on the Kili climb. I have been collecting stories because it may be my best bet for a return trip and I want to have a clear understanding of what is involved. Did you descend in 1 or 2 days? Did you have prior treking at altitude experience? Remind me what operator you used for the climb (did tropical Trails sub it out)?

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Mar 14th, 2006, 09:28 AM
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Okay, so Lamu goes on my list (so does Tsavo) but Kili does not! Sounds like a great experience for you.

Thanks for continuing. I have to check out the newest additions to your photo albums.
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Mar 14th, 2006, 10:20 AM
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Congrats on your summit! Kili is also not going on my list
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Mar 14th, 2006, 11:07 AM
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not on MY list either.
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Mar 14th, 2006, 11:09 AM
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It is only on my "read about in a trip report list."
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Mar 14th, 2006, 02:57 PM
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Thanks for the replies.

Nyamera

I have no pictures of Bush Gardens and for me taking pictures in Lamu was a dilemma.I really wanted to respect peoples privacy and you can't do that when you stick a camera in there face.On the other hand i feel that i missed a lot but the people there are lovely so i just tried to be respectful.I can see myself returning to Lamu and was wondering if you enjoyed it as much as i did?

Wayne

Sorry it took so long but i saw you posted a question on Imagestation about the Martyrs picture.I have totally forgotten that story but i will check with the wife and get back to you if you are still interested.By the way that is quite the journal you posted.I am still way behind in life here but i started looking at it and it looks like you have the same love of Africa everyone here has.There are probably 6 trip reports that i have just started looking at from when i was gone,there has been some really good stuff.

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I could talk about Kili all day! I had some great advice from someone locally before i left so i was totally prepared for the climb.We descended in 2 days but the first is after climbing all night.The descent is physically harded on the body as you descend so quickly.Our only training at altitude was on the donkey trek and the Gorilla tracking.We used Tropical Trails and they do the climbs themselves.They are a treking company first and a safari company second.There are a lot of good companies to climb with but our guides were excellent.They were very professional but they were also great guys.I saw a lot of people not eating with there guides and who basically were just briefed about the upcoming day and that was the extent of there relationship.We have talked on messenger 3 times since we got home and i would consider climbing again just so we could get together again.I saw some people who did not belong on the mountain but i believe anyone can do it.If you have any specific questions please fire away.

I should be able to start on the safari tonight,thanks again for the replies.
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Mar 14th, 2006, 03:28 PM
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Hi Bat

I just read where the success rate to the summit is 25%.I think this underscores the need for a good guide but also shows it is not as easy as some people think.If you are even remotely interested you should do it though.
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Mar 14th, 2006, 03:29 PM
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Thanks for the extra info on Kili.
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Mar 14th, 2006, 04:17 PM
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Excellent idea to get the wife to climb a mountain in the first flush of marriage.

Wish I'd thought of it - little or no chance now - for future reference does nayone have any idea what I could do with my wife for 5 days while I climb Mount Kenya?
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Mar 15th, 2006, 09:12 AM
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Dlo,
I asked about Bush Gardens because I recognised the restaurant in your picture but I get the Lamu restaurants mixed up in my memory. Yes, photographing people is a dilemma. Only the ugliest Kenyans volunteer or insist to have their photo taken and Iím too respectful/shy to ask the others.

Kimburu,
I donít know what to do with your wife while you climb Mount Kenya. Does anyone know where in Kenya you find the most charming and attractive young men?
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Mar 15th, 2006, 01:01 PM
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Congrats on Kili! I recently returned from Tanzania and I, too, can talk forever about Kili!
Great report, thank you =)
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Mar 15th, 2006, 01:25 PM
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Please excuse my ignorance, but how do I access your pictures. Your trip sounds great, I would love to see the photographic story.
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Mar 15th, 2006, 01:28 PM
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dlo's photos can be found here - http://www.imagestation.com/member/i...=dnickel&c=201
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Mar 15th, 2006, 03:01 PM
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We started our 8 day safari with a short drive from Arusha to Tarangire.We would camp for 6 nights and spend 2 nights in lodges.I would like to add that i enjoy all 3 styles of accomadation that we used.The tented camps are great and i can see why everyone loves them.Most of the lodges we used were good and camping provides a raw experience and can get you very close to nature.

When we arrived at Tarangire it was very hot but they had just had some rain and many Elephant had migrated back into the park.We would have the campsite to ourselves and put our tent under a huge baobob tree,this would turn out to be a mistake!

We would see loads of Giraffe,Babboons,and Elephant.Tarangire also had more Dikdik than i have ever seen and a large amout of Tetse flyes.The good news is that my wife suffered all the bites! We arrived back at camp only to have an Elephant maybe 20 feet from our tent enjoying some grass and looking longingly at our baobob tree.It was a quiet night except for a huge Impala herd that kept us company through the night.The next day was much the same as we saw a descent amount of game.Even though Tarangire is not recomended during this time of year the drought played to our favor as we saw a descent amout of game.Our guide Wilson was also great as he kept telling us it was our safari and always asked whwat we wanted to do.We would continually have the longest game drives we have ever had.

The night seemed fairly quiet untill 4 am when i heard some growling right outside the tent,oh my god! I am up the next 2 hours and i hear a little more growling but it starts to move away.Activity starts in the campsite so i get up and it turns out an Elephant was outside our tent for 3 hours! It was enjoying "our" baobob tree and it was making a lot of noise in the process.I am not overly familiar with all the vocalizations of Ele's but i was sure it was a leopard rasping right outside my tent.I am becoming quite a chicken in my old age.

After this short night we then drove on to Lake Manyara.
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Mar 15th, 2006, 05:17 PM
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Just posted Tanzania safari photos and some Kili ones.They are in no particular order(sorry) but it was taking me forever to organize them.
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Mar 15th, 2006, 05:29 PM
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Growling in the night outside the tent is scary indeed. Of course you are safe in your tent, but it makes you realize that you are prey to some animals.

Glad you had such luck in Tarangire.

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Mar 15th, 2006, 05:49 PM
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We got to Manyara and stayed at Twiga Campsite just outside the park.Nothing special here but the shower worked and it would be my last untill Ndutu.Interestingly we drove to the Serengeti Serena and they were out of water on the day we checked it out.

We drove into the park at 3 for another fairly long drive.I really enjoyed Manyara and though a lot of people skip it i think it is worth seeing.The environments are completly different from all the other northern parks and we saw plenty of game.The lake is very dry though so no canoeing but you can do night drives here.

We saw loads of Elephant which are a lot smaller and were much more skittish.Babboons lined the roadside and then we got very lucky and saw a Cheetah.It moved away quickly and being unable to offroad we moved on.We then saw a huge herd of Buffalo and the first Buffalo baby i have ever seen.Much cuter than the big boys,i seem to be liking buffalos as well.I seem to have about 20 favorites!

My pet peeve of the day centered on the Hippo pool.We get out of the vehicle and some guy apparently needs to listen to classical music on his mp3 player and the rest of us are forced to listen as well,why? I love my music but there is a time and a place and that is not the place.

Overall i really enjoyed Manyara.Baby Buffalos,Hippos wallowing in the mud,an elephant who half charged us and my first love scene of the trip(Baboons) made for a very productive day.

We would get up early the next day for the very long drive to the Serengeti where i would finally get my Leopards!

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Mar 15th, 2006, 05:52 PM
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You know you are safe but still... We have had bears locally go into peoples tents so you think if a bear can why can't....
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The Serengeti is amazing.It has been 4 years since i had been but it is still my favorite place in Africa.My first time the Serengeti was in full bloom,lush,green and beautiful.As everyone here knows that is not the case now but it did rain each day we were there and the game viewing was the best i have ever had.

Shortly before arriving at the entrance gate the brakes were hit and we were backing up as a Hyena was laying in a den right on the side of the road and was completly unconcerned by our arrival.We had lunch at the gate and would do a game drive to our campsite.

Immediatly inside the gate we saw large herds of Wildebeest and Zebra.We would not see the migration in full force but these herds were impressive nonetheless.Our guide told us a few times how this was "nothing" so i can only imagine seeing it in its full glory.We drove on and we saw 2 Cheetahs further away in a bush.We drove on and saw some lions and we had to pass by the Cheetahs again who were in the same spot but a couple of vehicles decided that the no offroading rule did not apply to them and had moved in close.We moved along and saw plenty more herbivores when we saw a vehicle stopped and looking at something in the distance.First we notice there is something hanging froma tree and as we move up a bit you can tell the legs hanging from the tree belong to a Wildebeest! We now see our first Leopard which is well camouflaged.We have a so-so view but i am excited as it is my first.

We drive for another 10 minutes when i get my first spotting.I casually announce that there is a Lion eating a Wildebeest(surprise),like this is something i see everyday.She eats for a couple of minutes before moving off for a rest and we decide to do the same.It was a very good game drive especially for that time of day and things would only get a lot better.

We find a campsite that has water but before i can even get to the shower it has run out,thank god for wet wipes.We meet a couple of cool girls who did Kili and hang with them for the evening before going to sleep to the sounds of Hyena and a some point in the night Lion.We would get up early and have a great day to follow.
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thanks again dlo. The Manyara sounds-in-the-night description was cool. We had a half charge from an elephant in Manyara also--gave me an adrenalin rush.
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