To Master Photographer Bill H

Jul 17th, 2006, 11:50 AM
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Bill - Do you save your camera files as RAW? Do you know if Todd does also? (At some point he uses CS2). (Sorry if you've already answered this). Thanks.
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Jul 17th, 2006, 12:29 PM
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"Bill - Do you save your camera files as RAW? Do you know if Todd does also?"

Tom, yes, we shoot RAW mode, download at lunch and evening to a laptop and delete maybe 1/3 of them, backup to external hard drives. Todd and Art do the same.

"(At some point he uses CS2)."

Todd uses CS2 for his RAW conversions, Carol and I use Capture One (which I think is better than Photoshop for Canon cameras), Art uses Breezebrowser for his conversions. Then everyone would do the remaining digital work in Photoshop.

Mediatorr wrote earlier "I was also wondering to what extent you like to use Photoshop to finish off your photos"

In the RAW converter we set the correct white balance (color temperature) and set the black and white points and if we had good light for the original image (which we always work hard at getting, but sometimes can't if it's too early or overcast) then there is surprisingly little left to do in Photoshop. Typically I just run a light Shadow/Highlight and that's enough, except for sharpening. Sometimes a contrast S-curve, but usually not.

Here are some interesting variations on the same lions to show how people interpret the colors differently ... first one is when we were sharing the jeep with Todd (we had 2 days with him, 2 with Art, nine days on our own) ... this is the same lion at I think almost the exact same moment, but two different focal lengths and Carol is about 5 ft to Todd's right ... compare the color balance ...
http://www.birdsasart.com/toddtanz06/lion%20look.htm
http://members.aol.com/bhilton665/ta...ol_lions_2.htm 1st one

Here is the second one, different day when we're in different jeeps but I remember this because 3 males were mating with 3 females at a double kill site ... to me Todd's looks a bit green but maybe Carol's looks a bit too warm? It was a warm-light morning as I remember it (I processed it for her) ... at any rate these differences come up in the way the RAW file is converted ...
http://www.birdsasart.com/toddtanz06...0snarl%20d.htm
http://members.aol.com/bhilton665/ta...arol_lions.htm (3rd and 4th shots)

Bill





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Jul 17th, 2006, 12:37 PM
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That lion should lay off the coke!
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Jul 17th, 2006, 01:00 PM
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But seriously...

I'm not a photographer but I do know my way around photoshop. Yes it is subjective but Lion Snarl D.tif needs blue adding. I don't think the others are to warm. I've seen colours like that in real life and on video. Interestingly on video the colours will just change from one second to the next from grey to golden!

I'm sure you know this but
You can check for colour cast by sampling (eyedropper) the black or white and see which colour is out of sync.
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