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Myownheroine Sep 12th, 2012 06:22 AM

There goes my desire to visit Egypt
 
Egyptians scaling the US Embassy over a film hardly any Americans have ever heard of in a protest planned by relatives of Al Qaeda leaders?
On 9/11!?

Unforgivable!

That country is never getting my tourist dollars!

tom42 Sep 12th, 2012 11:38 AM

okay. but i don't think it is government sponsored.

belted_galloway Sep 12th, 2012 11:49 AM

How about two weeks all inclusive in Libya?

starrs Sep 12th, 2012 11:55 AM

http://www.google.com/imgres?q=map+o...9,r:0,s:0,i:75

Iowa_Redhead Sep 12th, 2012 11:59 AM

I'd probably still go back quite happily if I hadn't already planned a trip for this year.

For the group of nutcases there's also a much larger group of people who are friendly, welcoming and kind. Just as I recognize that the terrorists of 9/11 do NOT represent all Muslims or all Arabs, they recognize that not all Americans are represented by those that made that video.

muskoka Sep 12th, 2012 11:59 AM

You guys crack me up!

marlib1951 Sep 12th, 2012 12:15 PM

I have been to Cairo but I would not go now.

belted_galloway Sep 12th, 2012 12:21 PM

Just reminds me how long this madness has been going on for.

We went to a deserted Luxor, the locals shook our hands for going. We had two weeks all inclusive at the Winter Palace for next to nothing. it was 6 months after 62 tourists were shot by Islamic extremists.

That was 1998.

The world hasn't moved on much, doubt it ever will.

We went because we had just graduated, beggars can't be choosers.

Dukey1 Sep 12th, 2012 12:37 PM

Just don't go over there and say, "I'm Jewish and Islam is a cancer."

Christina Sep 12th, 2012 12:41 PM

I don't think I'll ever go back and am glad I went when I did. I felt that way before this event.

The culture and country has changed a lot, gotten a lot more conservative and women are seriously harrassed in Cairo, there has been a lot about that recently in the news. They are groped and molested and harrased by young boys (teens) -- these are Cairo Muslim residents (both the boys and the girls). It is disgusting, I would never want to go back to that country until they change their behavior and do something about they way people are treated. It was bad enough when I went (about 20 years ago), but then I thin they mainly harrassed foreign women, and it wasn't as bad as now. Funny coming from people who claim they are so religious and that Islam means they should all be so modest.

see
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...ally-assaulted
http://www.arabnews.com/egyptian-wom...ahrir%E2%80%99
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/fea...100955560.html

And those aren't biased reports. When I went, you didn't see that many Egyptian women in the streets in hijabs (certainly not young ones) My tour guide was a young university graduate and she was even wearing Bermuda shorts at that time (1980s).

marlib1951 Sep 12th, 2012 12:49 PM

We went in 1991 and were able to see a lot of Cairo but we didn't travel to Luxor,etc. Really, our trip was partly business and we knew an Egyptian family through business who escorted us around. Most of the women at that time wore dresses or skirts like we would have worn in the US. I don't recall seeing women wearing pants or shorts - other than tourist.
Also, I am glad we got to see the Cairo museum before it was looted.

Marginal Sep 12th, 2012 12:51 PM

When was the Egyptian Museum in Cairo looted?

annhig Sep 12th, 2012 12:54 PM

Christina - i read those reports about harassment of women too. the attitudes of the young men involved seemed to be very confused - they were not only criticising women who dressed "improperly" [of which they of course are the arbiters] but also attacking women in hijabs because of what they supposedly wore underneath!

of course it is all an excuse for bullying women which the authorities seem to care little about.

a while ago I saw a film made by a saudi women who had escaped the country about the harassment she and other women suffer if there is the slightest "immodesty" [real or imagined] there whilst men feel free to dress and behave exactly as they like.

Still I would love to go but it's not going to be top of my list any time soon.

marlib1951 Sep 12th, 2012 12:54 PM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12442863

marlib1951 Sep 12th, 2012 12:58 PM

Marginal,

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12442863

I wasn't implying that it happened this week.

marlib1951 Sep 12th, 2012 12:59 PM

Sorry for a double post, for some strange reason the first one did not show up until I had posted it again!

Iowa_Redhead Sep 12th, 2012 12:59 PM

<<<Also, I am glad we got to see the Cairo museum before it was looted.>>>

If I remember correctly, the museum was "looted" in early 2011 at the start of the uprising and they damaged 2 mummies and a handful of small items. Nothing big, nothing well known.

NewbE Sep 12th, 2012 01:06 PM

You have to do what you think is right with your travel dollars. I have a friend who to this day refuses to buy anything German-made; I kind of get his point, but history is long and there a lot of grudges one could hold. I would love to go to Egypt.

marlib1951 Sep 12th, 2012 01:11 PM

At the moment, I would be more worried about safety.

belted_galloway Sep 12th, 2012 01:40 PM

Newbie

I think if we all refused to buy products from any nation that had committed some sort of crime against humanity, there wouldn't be an awful lt of international trade.


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