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Sep 20th, 2005, 11:02 AM
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Food = continental, traditional. I had dinner at the hotel, and if I recall correctly, at at restaurants in Vic Falls and Livingstone, Zam for other meals. But I don't get that fussed over the food on safari, so long as its adequate.

Unlike I do in Europe -- reservations now being made for The Fat Duck and Gordon Ramsay's for trip to London in November.

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Sep 20th, 2005, 12:44 PM
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Hi Michael,

Don't miss out the Manoir aux Quatre Saisons if you're in the UK!

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Sep 20th, 2005, 12:52 PM
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Its on my list, but I won't have a car so a bit too hard to get out to near Oxford for the day. I'll be in London over Thanksgiving and I'm saving Four Seasons (my French spelling is terible) for better weather, when we'd stay over.
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Sep 20th, 2005, 12:54 PM
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If you want a pith helmet, you'll need to go to the dreaded Victoria Falls Hotel -- they have a shop specialising in 'colonial memorabilia.'

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Sep 20th, 2005, 12:56 PM
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OFF TOPIC

Hi Michael,

I rather assumed you'd be hiring a car, as the Fat Duck isn't exactly centrally located.

There are very easy train connections between London and Oxford -- may be helpful in planning your future trip.

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Sep 20th, 2005, 01:22 PM
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Fat Duck = train to Maidenhead (I think that's the town) and then walk or 5-minute taxi, or so I'm told
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Sep 20th, 2005, 01:23 PM
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I don't dare drive in the UK -- I only chance that side of the road in Namibia (where I have driven from Windheok to Etosha) and I'll do the same next year in South Africa, for drives from Durban to Hluhluwe and from Upington to Kgalagadi.
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Sep 20th, 2005, 01:34 PM
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Hi Michael,

(Back on topic) Would you say that the Vic Falls Hotel is quite similar to the Nellie? I liked the Nellie.

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Sep 20th, 2005, 01:56 PM
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Yes, similar in atmosphere, but the Vic Falls has a better location (you can see the "smoke" rising from the falls and you can walk to the falls, with care as there are baboons along the trail). Rooms feel like Ritz-Carlton rooms -- lots of chintz and flowery upholstery, hunting prints, etc., but its not faux-colonial like the Ritz-Carltons.

Like the Mount Nelson, the Vic Falls is a Leading Hotel of the World, for what that's worth, and its comfortable.

There's nothing like sitting on the backporch reading and listening to the falls.

But, choice as to hotel really depends on what your intentions are -- if they are to walk around the falls and get out and do some activities in the area, the Vic Falls can't be beat, but if you're looking for another safari experience, the Vic Falls would not be the place.

Even if you don't stay there, its worth stopping by for afternoon tea.

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Sep 20th, 2005, 03:42 PM
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I will put in a boost for Vic Falls Hotel. I just got back and really enjoyed my stay there. I too thought it might be a bit stuffy for me, but I was very comfortable there. Meals were wonderful, and the dress code has definetly toned down. It was full of others in their "safari khakis". I loved the conveniance of being able to walk to shops, the craft markets, and the falls without having to depend on a shuttle service.
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Sep 20th, 2005, 04:03 PM
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Have any of you been to the Stanley Safari Lodge - on the Zambian side? How was that?

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Sep 20th, 2005, 04:07 PM
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Michael,
I thought the Vic Falls Hotel was wonderful when I was there about 6 years ago. My husband, my brother and sister-in-law and I had just spent about a week at one of the safari camps in Hwange - I think it was called "A Touch of the Wild" The Sikumi. It was a fun camp and the game drives both night and day were great, the animals were everywhere and the service at the lodge was rustic but good.
So, a day at the Vic Falls Hotel, and tea on the veranda was really a treat. I'm glad that it is still an elegant place. We walked to the Falls along a narrow, damp trail to the edge of the gorge and passed Livingston's big statue (a great place for pictures). The hotel didn't sell pith helmets when we were there, but my brother and sister-in-law (who lived in Mutare, Zim) bought a couple for us when we arrived on our next visit there in 2001. The helmets are made in Zimbabwe in the city of Bulawayo. There're much less expensive in Zim, than at the hotels. We also stayed at the Paloma in Maputo on our trip in 2001. That's a super hotel with great food and wine!!
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Sep 20th, 2005, 04:21 PM
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Cooncat~I'll let you know how the Stanley was when I get back if you can wait that long! I'll be there Oct 31-Nov 1.
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Thanks Dennis - But I think I'm going to have to commit before then! Hope you enjoy it though - it looks very nice!

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I stayed at Ilala a couple years ago and had a wonderful time. Selected that one because I'd already done lots of safari camps in SA and Botswana, and was just there to see the falls. Just wanted to be in town close to the falls, and Ilala was cheaper than VFH. It was relaxed and comfortable, had a nice bar and good restaurant. We spent a bit of time over at the VFH for drinks, tea etc. and very much enjoyed it. The verandah is beautiful. You can't see the falls, but you can hear them! But it did seem that the travellers with the most interesting travels in Africa were over at Ilala (made for interesting discussions over drinks). It seemed to me that people do want to "experience" VFH, but it was mostly newbies, not regulars. The regulars seemed to hang out at Ilala. This is one where you can let your budget dictate. Ilala is a perfectly good choice if you are trying to save a bit to make up for Mombo.
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Sep 22nd, 2005, 03:54 AM
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Hi Gattina,

Thanks for your feedback. I've heard that Ilala was very nice a few years ago, but they have recently expanded and added a casino, which seems like it would be noisy. Was the casino there when you were there? If so, was it noisy?

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