Tasty tagines and mobbed medinas - a Moroccan medley

Mar 7th, 2009, 10:37 AM
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Thursday, thanks so much for this report. I love your honest reporting of both the good and the bad -- this is so helpful for those of us considering or planning a Morocco trip in the future. (I'm in the thinking-about-it phase for 2010.)
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Mar 7th, 2009, 10:54 AM
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Thanks bniemand - it's always nice to know people are reading!

Leslie - can you ask Isram for some sample hotel names? And although I liked sleeping in Essaouira you could always do it as a day trip from Marrakesh if you ran out of things to do there.
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Mar 8th, 2009, 07:43 AM
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They do give the hotel names. For ex. in Marakkesh the superior is Royal Mirage Deluxe & the lower first class is Riad Mogador or Atlas Medina. In Fez superior is Jnan Palace and the lower is Zalagh Parc Palace. All seem to be nice but not in the heart of it and definitely chain feel not anything special.
I don't know how much flexibility there is with Isram if you told them you would like to try a certain riad instead - haven't gotten that far in the planning yet. But maybe they work with you if you have a request.

Thanks again - and good point about the day trip to Ess. - if we stay the extra 2 days in Marr. we could do that for one.
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Mar 8th, 2009, 12:07 PM
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Wish I could edit my last post. I looked on tripadvisor (after saying they are not reliable!) and those hotels I listed sound pretty bad. So definitely unless Isram lets you choose different places I wouldn't go with that package.
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Mar 10th, 2009, 03:35 PM
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Leslie_S - clearly I'm going to look at TA reviews with great skepticism after my experience with the Silsila, but I would put more credence in bad reviews than good ones. Aside from ones that are obviously from people who booked a two-star hotel while expecting five-star comforts!
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Mar 19th, 2009, 07:39 AM
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Thursdaysd- -- I wanted to ask your opinion on something if I may - don't know if you're still checking the Morocco board in general or only your own posts so I'm writing here instead of a new thread.

I'm setting up a trip - the usual circuit - a few days in Marrakesh then a few in Fez with 5 days in between including a night in a tent in the desert. Also considering a day trip from Fez to Meknes and Volubilis. If we do it with this same company/driver, we'd be doing that the next morning after we arrive in Fez (assume late arrival in Fez after driving all day from Merzouga). It's not cheap (2000 dirham for just my husband & myself) and it's another day of a lot of driving. So I'm trying to discern if it's worth the trip.

I asked if we could have one day between the desert and the Meknes/Volubilis trip to just hang out in Fez but that would mean the driver spending the night & losing a day, etc. so I guess the answer is no. We could always schedule a day-trip with another group - through the riad we're using in Fez so that's an option to avoid doing it in the time-frame our current driver would recommend.

So the bottom line is -- did you feel Meknes & Volubilis is worth the trip? Having seen Roman cities in Ephesus & Jerash (spectacular) I don't know that I have that strong of an interest in Volubilis. But I hate to be short-sighted when going all that way & not taking advantage of the opportunity while we're there. I've already cut Essaouira out of the itinerary.

Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.

Leslie

Any thoughts? Thanks.
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Mar 19th, 2009, 07:51 AM
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Well, I'd be more inclined to keep Essaouira and drop Volubilis! And if you're seeing Marrakesh and Fez I don't know that Meknes is a requirement, either. Why don't you start a new thread with your proposed itinerary, and post a link here? I don't know how many days you have total, which might affect the answer.
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Mar 19th, 2009, 09:35 AM
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thursdaysd - took your advice on a new thread
http://www.fodors.com/community/afri...any-advice.cfm

Maybe we'll spend one of our free days in Marr. doing a day trip to Ess. and miss Meknes/Volubilis.
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Mar 21st, 2009, 01:33 PM
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Hi - I am also a senior single woman that has traveled a lot, mostly with family and not a group. I am leaving for Morocco the first week in May. I am using OAT (went to Vietnam with them last year and was very good) but doing my own international air. I plan to spend a few days in Ess. before I return to U.S. so appreciated your info. Also want to try to go to a few other cities in that area but it may be too expensive as a single???. Leslie, interesting about your trip to China this fall. I was signed up to go in May but only 6 people on a 30 day trip so I chickened out and will try again this fall. I really want to do two specific areas - the silk road and the ethnic area around Lijing. I have been to major cities but all of the tours include Beijing and Shanghai so not many choices.
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Mar 21st, 2009, 02:11 PM
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Hi Susanne - hope your OAT trip goes well - I hated them when I used them for Thailand, but I know a lot of people love them. I didn't find Morocco that expensive as a single - the Lalla Mira in Essaouira was very reasonable, I thought. Be very careful where you pick if you stay in Marrakech, though!! I usually start with Lonely Planet or Rough Guide for budget places, but you can check Fodors or Frommers for their value picks. Which towns are you thinking of?

If you've already been to China, have you considered going solo? My third trip to China was seven weeks on my own, and included the Lijiang area. (Some of the TR is at www.wilhelmswords.com/rtw2004, and I'm happy to answer questions.) There are also some TRs from independent travelers to China on the Asia board - eg. see http://www.fodors.com/community/asia...-beginners.cfm and http://www.fodors.com/community/asia...g-shanghai.cfm. Have you looked at Intrepid for China?
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Mar 21st, 2009, 03:46 PM
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Susanne - our China trip is with Viking and includes Beijing & Shanghai and the touristy route in between (Yangtze cruise). I am certainly not the brave, independent traveler most of you fodorites are! Some places I just need that comfort of a group tour.

Will you please post about your trip to Morocco when you return? This board is so slow and the tripadvisor board makes me crazy to use -- there are TONS of posts that should be deleted.
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Mar 22nd, 2009, 06:52 AM
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thanks to both of you - I will report.
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Feb 9th, 2013, 10:57 AM
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This is INCREDIBLY helpful - thank you for so much detail and for your opinion about your experience. I also have taken note of a few things around which I should use extra caution. I'm a seasoned traveler, but it always serves as a reminder....THANKS!!
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Feb 9th, 2013, 01:21 PM
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Thanks for posting, baroness. It's always cool to know someone is still reading a TR! Will you write us one when you get back?
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Feb 9th, 2013, 02:53 PM
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So pleased to see this old thread resurrected! Am enjoying dipping into it again...thanks again, Kathy, for all the detail!
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