Tanzania Southern Circuit Report 1

Jul 2nd, 2004, 07:48 AM
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Thanks Dave for sharing your emails. Very good info and I am very envious of you getting to go. Did you consider going to Kavita? ila
Jul 2nd, 2004, 07:57 AM
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I mean Kativa National Park.
Jul 2nd, 2004, 08:23 AM
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HI, oh yes I did think of that other park. I would love to go there. It is a bit up there in price. But I'm sure it is worth it. The problem was, even if I skipped mikumi. Both ruaha & kativa would have suffered. In my mind any way they would have suffered. The reason, I would have not been able to give the time in both places as they deserve. I don't like rushing through places. Because of the flights out of these parks, it made it hard to put it together the right way.
Each of those places need at least 5nts!
You go all that way, you may as well explore and take in the whole thing. Thats how I look at it. Not sure when I will be able to get in that area again.
But it will be kativa & the place where they have the chimps. Can't recall the name of that park at this time.
My main focus in so. tanz is ruaha. Then I have quite a bit going on in tsavo east after all that.
Next yr is out, as I am pretty much committed to my zimbabwe guide. Also a stop in bots or zambia.
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Jul 2nd, 2004, 11:07 AM
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dave - it's Katavi and Mahale Mountains. And yes these are expensive to get to with air running between $450-$600 in a small plan for about 3-1/2 to 4-hrs. And you can only fly to Mahale - no roads take you there.

Many people fly into Katavi, spend a few days then either fly on do a river boat down to Mahale and spend time here, then fly out. Camps are few at both places and are expensive in the $400/person/nt range. Then there is Gombe Stream, but they only do day-trips here.

One of these days we'll all manage to cover all the parks.
Jul 2nd, 2004, 06:02 PM
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Yes we will! I myself have missions to complete over there. Have a long way to go.Just hope it all lasts that long. But if people in general keep going. Then the wildlife and parks will last.
I don't want to be alive when and if the opposite happens. My ELEPHANTS, been through too much and STILL going through HELL already. I can't picture AFRICA without them or anything else for that matter. Spread the word. Tell everyone to go visit!!!!!
see ya, david
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Jul 3rd, 2004, 03:09 AM
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Hmmm... didn't think there was a national park with my name on it (my actual name is Kavita)!
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Jul 3rd, 2004, 03:23 AM
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Hello, it's close your name. The PARK name is : Katavi. Did you read up at all on this park? It seems to be WONDERFUL!!!!
Thanks, David
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Jul 3rd, 2004, 06:36 AM
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How ever you spell it, I think this would be the ultimate African safari experience when you see the size of the herds there and the availability of the more rare species. I guess if you are lucky enough to spot them. But mostly the lack of other tourists. ila
Jul 3rd, 2004, 11:49 AM
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Hello Ila, yes it would. I found out about this place from FOXES SITE. But again, I would have not done it any justice. 4 nts there and 4 nts ruaha not nearly enough for me. Thats the way it would have had to be. Some other time. I'll get there. If your interested in any of my 3 safari pics, let me know. I will send you a link.
Take care, David
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Jul 3rd, 2004, 12:37 PM
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Is your site the www.virtualtourist.com? I think you've already posted it here. Is there another one? ila
Jul 4th, 2004, 04:26 AM
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Hi all, here is another reply from Jane Fox. I had a couple of general ques. about some of the wildlife there. Here is her reply.

Dear David,
There are certainly Cheetah in Ruaha and plenty of lions. I have never seen them in camp, but the paw marks are often evident in the mornings. Our guides are very good at finding all the animals as they are local to the park rather than driver guides who go all over the place.
There are also lots of horrible snakes!! I walked past a baby something nasty which stood up and flattened its hood at me - I was absolutely terrified! I'm glad someone likes them. They get black mambas and puff adders plus other species. It is not a species we usually try to show our guests in case they don't want to come again, but I am sure if you ask the guides they will probably be able to find you a few.

Best regards,
Jane Fox
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Jul 4th, 2004, 07:58 AM
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I've met Jane Fox a couple of times - she spends much of her time in UK rather than Tanzania - just in case some of you wondered why she hasn't seen the animals.

We saw a lot of game in S Tanzania, more than in Botswana; there are many lions and elephants and we also saw leopard which we didn't see in Botswana. Elephants were frequently in and around the camp as were the hippos.
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Jul 4th, 2004, 10:31 AM
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Hi Ruth, my tour op in KENYA is right. This FOX FAMILY are very nice. I had asked her about CHEETAH, because in 2001 saw a handful in the MARA. In 2002 we tried and tried didn't see any!
Was wondering of the LIONS and if they came near or in the camp area. Which I love very much. I am glad the Eles come around. I live for that. My tour op is requesting a HUT near the river for me.
Oh, about the SNAKES. In 3 trips only saw two PUFF-ADDERS. Both in 2001. Thats why she gave the info on the SNAKES. I want to see a BLACK-MOMBA!!
Any ways, stay in touch.
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Jul 4th, 2004, 12:01 PM
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The wet season(summer) in Africa is probably the best time to see snakes. We saw several black momba in March at Londolozi in S.A.-including one that was right outside our room.

Beautiful creatures but as you know, probably one of the most venomous of all species.

I don't think we had a game drive where we didn't see at least one snake.

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Jul 4th, 2004, 12:21 PM
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Hi, about your black mombas, Do you have any photos of them that you took? If so, would you mind sending one to me? None the less, sounds very COOL!!
Thanks, David
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