Safari myths???

Oct 15th, 2007, 04:13 PM
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Because Johan you have chosen to mock much of what many on this board believe, which in essence trivialises what they have claimed from their experience. Hence my earlier question to you: What gives you this right?

find that a widely held but false belief or idea.
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Oct 15th, 2007, 04:19 PM
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Once again digital dexterity, lack of, sent my message to the board. But wanted to add that i could be wrong but my interpretation of myth was: A widely held but false belief.

And I am challenging you to embellish on what you wish to tell us all, but that which you cannot now.

I like many enjoy the views on this board, I too like offering my opinion on where I have been and what I have experienced, but when these boards become the soapboxes for private promotion it raises my ire and I will pull up the BS flag if no-one else does.

So skimmer, the flag is raised, talk up.
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Oct 15th, 2007, 06:22 PM
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Ken,

Yep .... a couple of my myths were meant to be silly!!!

Cheers,
Hari
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Oct 15th, 2007, 06:35 PM
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This is not a myth, but a real question. Johan, are you doing a mobile safari? Can you tell us about it? Where, when, company?
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Oct 15th, 2007, 09:54 PM
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Mkhonzo,

I don't have to go on a mobile safari next year to further explain why I made these statements.

When I find the time is right, I'll do so.

As you probably know, I have been doing all kind of trips in the past (from very basic to quite luxurious) and out of my own experience I strongly believe that I have a point here.

And I don't have a problem with the fact that you have a different opinion on this. Why should I anyway?


Lynn,

I'll doing a mobile safari in Northern Botswana in September 2008 with Masson Safaris. Three friends will join me on this trip.

Greetz,

Johan


 
Oct 15th, 2007, 11:30 PM
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My luggage already packed, Johan. I only need an adapter so I can use your 200-400 VR on my Canon cam. <insert devilish smilie here>.

;-)
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Oct 16th, 2007, 03:54 PM
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Thanks for the info on the mobile.
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Oct 21st, 2007, 10:58 AM
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Tonight I understand why some people are offended by Johanís myths. As myths are widely held but false beliefs that keep popping up here on Fodorís (and/or elsewhere) itís not fun to be accused of spreading them, but I think that if you truly believe the myths on this thread arenít myths, you should counterattack with other myths.

My myths are myths that seriously irritate me here on Fodorís mixed with only slightly annoying myths and myths that arenít widespread on Fodorís, but heard elsewhere. I donít think Iím sillier than Skimmer.
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Oct 21st, 2007, 11:09 AM
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More myths:

You need A/C on the East African coast.

Itís advisable to take antibiotics as soon as you have a tummy problem in Africa.
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Oct 21st, 2007, 06:42 PM
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I cannot speak to any of the myths as I am leaving for our first trip next week.

However, I find that both the experienced Africa traveler and the ones who have only been once or twice, have been helpful in my research and planning.

The experienced ones offer insights and depth of knowledge that is amazing.

The neophytes offer the tips and suggestions that other first time travelers find helpful. Their exuberance and delight comes across in their reports and pictures. They are not jaded in their outlook nor are they disdainful of those who may only get to make this trip, once in a lifetime.

It seems to me there is a place for everyone and in an open forum, there will be those whose facts may be less than accurate and whose opinions may be un-informed but are offered in good faith.

There are those who are well traveled, who offer much needed advice and do so with a generous spirit.

Thanks to all of you who have helped me along the way.
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Oct 22nd, 2007, 02:18 AM
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Johan-

I am late to the party, as usual! I just returned from 22 days in Tanzania, and jet lag has me browsing the internet at weird hours of the night. sigh.

some good myths in there. Some on the border, and some are wrong or misguided. For example:

"It will really help you to go with a professional photographer on safari to take better pictures. It's actually a guaranteed winner."

The value of going with a professional photographer is primarily the learning opportunity. We all have different experience and skill levels, and delivering the best experiences or guaranteeing the best photos is never promised. Having photographs that are better on the last day of safari than the first day is definitely the goal.

Just a clarification.

Here is a myth for you: It is unsafe to go to Africa.

This one drives me crazy. It is spoken as if Africa is a country and not a continent. Some people don't seem to know the difference, or care to learn more. Every country is different politically and economically.
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Oct 22nd, 2007, 05:46 AM
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Hi Andy,

I agree with your myth.....

Another question i get asked

"where do you stay?, is it clean?, food?" Little do they realize .......

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Hari
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Oct 22nd, 2007, 11:15 AM
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Andy,

Glad you had a look at them.

The good thing is that people can have different ideas about these "myths".

I fully understand your point of view but unfortunately some people in the business don't have the same ethics as you.

Like mentioned above, I'll fully explain why I wrote each of these statements on a later date.

Greetz,

Johan

PS: I'll be in Xigera while you are in Mombo next September.

 
Oct 22nd, 2007, 11:52 AM
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I know most of the folks that lead photographic safaris, and I truly believe that most consider themselves instructors of photography and not just a safari leader. I hope that they are doing everything they can do transfer knowledge of photographic techniques, because that is what value is being brought to the table.

On another note, I actually took a digital projector with me to Tanzania this month. It was a total blast to review images on a big screen out in the middle of the bush. What a hoot.
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May 21st, 2008, 11:58 PM
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May 22nd, 2008, 08:23 AM
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I would like to get your opinion on this myth posted earlier by Nyamera:

ďIf, when in a big, humming, diesel guzzling vehicle, you donít wear colours that blend perfectly with the environment and are bought in specialist shops, the mostly colour blind animals will run awayĒ

I have to admit that, as an inexperienced safari goer and after hearing this myth so many times, I did believe that it was advisable to wear khaki-type colours for a better safari experience. Is it really completely pointless?

If so, why do most ďexpertsĒ in guidebooks and brochures continue to recommend it? As an example, hereís an excerpt from Bradtís guide to Botswana, written by Chris McIntyre, who seems to know a lot about the subject:

ďIf you plan to walk then avoid wearing any bright, unnatural colours, especially white. Dark, muted shades are best; greens, browns and khaki are ideal. Dark blue tends to attract tsetse flies, so best to avoid that if you canĒ

I know he makes that comment related to walking in the bush rather than ďwhen in a big, humming diesel guzzling vehicleĒ, but if animals are mostly colour blind then the myth is equally wrong when walking. Also, if itís true that tsetses are attracted to blue, that also holds when youíre in an open vehicle.

Is there any truth in the myth?
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May 22nd, 2008, 08:37 AM
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The neutral colors - tan, khaki, brown are recommended to blend into the environment, but also because they don't show dirt/dust as would bright colors and easily interchangeable. If in a closed vehicle it won't make much difference.

There is no reason to be fully kitted out in safari attire if you're only in a vehicle. Most people have neutral colors in their wardrobe or can fine inexpensively at many shops. Wear what's comfortable and, as above, interchangeable - one color ad hues of the same - for mix-'n-match. Also, camps/lodges can do laundry for you (either included in price of your nightly rate, or very inexpensive if you have to pay).

If on a walking safari, it's usually bright, specifically, white that should be avoided. In fact, a number of guides will not take guests out for walks if wearing white t-shirts.
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May 22nd, 2008, 09:07 AM
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torrem,
I think this thread was started because Skimmer wanted to get a specific point across about travel in countries where I havenít been, but a myth is myth. Though maybe you should start another thread about colours on safari.

According to science at the moment, most animals you want to see on safari are more or less colour blind, except primates that see like we do and birds and insects that see a lot of colours that we donít see.

In the case of white there could be some issue of contrast and it gets very dirty anyway. There have been several threads about this. I donít think a muted shade of pink would be much worse than khaki for a game walk, but I really donít know.

I donít think itís a myth that tse tse flies are attracted to dark colours.
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May 22nd, 2008, 09:42 AM
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According to the US Center for Disease Control (the CDC) tsetse flies are attracted to both bright colors and very dark colors. This is a link to a page about preventing West African trypanosomiasis (sleeping sickness)http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dpd/parasi...nosomiasis.htm
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May 22nd, 2008, 03:03 PM
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lbodem -- ugh, yuk, that sounds nasty. Which leads to the question: How big of a problem are tse tse flies in the Okavango Delta? How about in South Africa?
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