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Aug 21st, 2004, 09:30 AM
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Actually, at the end, I only want 3 nights in the Serengeti. It will still give me a combined 6 nights of Masai Mara/Serengeti, and I don't know if I will be traveling solo by the 15th night anyway!

As long as the people are nearly as friendly as they are in Zambia, I am sure that my wife will do just fine, along with a laptop computer that plays DVD's and a satellite phone, although if the camps have them, I would much rather just pay them for the usage rather than renting one.

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Aug 21st, 2004, 12:44 PM
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Roccco - I got your juices flowing when you saw Shompole! Yes?

First question? Which airline gets you into Nairobi in the morning? I know BA and KLM both arrive at night.

Otherwise, the Mara looks fine, if you're doing Tortilis and Shompole, believe 2-nts. Tortilis is sufficient. What I don't understand is why going into Tanzania you would want to go all the way to the Ngorongoro/Gibbs Farm area and then backtrack to Tarangire? Then back to Ngorongoro Crater? Makes no sense and a waste of time; besides you'll be wiped out by the time you get from Shompole to Ngorongoro.

I remind you of my theory "no backtracking" - unless there is absolutely no alternative; we're not talking super highways between these two areas.

Whether you spend 3- or 4-nts in the Serengeti, I remind you that your plans are to travel late-Aug/Sept which is Migration, and while Grumeti in the Western Serengeti is lovely, the herds are in Kenya with spillover in the Northern Serengeti - therefore, my original suggestion of Migration Camp, and you can also consider Kleins (a CCA property) right outside the N.Serengeti; this latter is good also for night drives.

As a reminder also, you don't necessarily have to return to NBO to fly home. KLM flies into both NBO and Kilimanjaro (JRO), so you can fly back from the Serengeti to Arusha/Kili and leave from there - no need to to back to NBO. On the otherhand, BA only flies in/out of NBO and DAR. And since you initially mentioned something about a stopover in AMS, KLM might be the way to go.

As to the border crossing, yes, it's a handover from a Kenyan guide/driver to a Tanzanian guide/driver.

I have another in-country contact to email directly at:

[email protected]
[email protected]

I provide both because never know which will go thru, so "send to" one and "copy to" the other - one or both will get to them. While they have a US rep (somewhere in Colorado), better to go direct and they can handle both Kenya & Tanzania; and can better provide info re Shompole - getting to/from. You can use my name as referral - if you promise not to drive them crazy.

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Aug 21st, 2004, 01:25 PM
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Sandi,

Yes, Shompole looks spectacular!

In response to which flight arrives in Nairobi from the morning, there is a KLM flight, for example, departing Amsterdam on September 19 (2004), (operated by Kenya Air) at 8:40PM, and arriving in Nairobi at 6:10AM on September 20th. It is KLM flight 4341.

If you go to Travelocity and ask for a flight departing LAX on September 18th, there is a 4:10PM flight that will get you to Amsterdam at 11:40AM, allowing for enough time to visit your favorite "coffee shop", and hopefully not getting lost on the way back to the airport for the 8:40PM flight to Nairobi!

I am SO LOST, about where I will be position-wise upon crossing the border from Amboseli to Tanzania. I definitely need more feedback from you and the rest of the gang before I have any comprehension whatsoever. Right now, I am thinking that it will put me near the Ngorongoro Crater, and at nearly $1,000 USD per night, I don't want to pay that kind of money at the Ngorongoro Crater Lodge for an early evening arrival. I'd much rather just roll out of the truck, jump in a bed at Gibb's Farm, and be fresh for the next morning whether it is to drive back to Tarangire or continue over to the Ngorongoro Crater. If it is to continue onto the Ngorongoro Crater, however, I would probably only spend a single night at NC Lodge.

But then...how do I get back to Tarangire??? At the very end???

I will gladly take your advice on either Klein's or Migration Camp. I just want the very best gameviewing in comfort that is possible. There is no love lost for Grumeti Camp, although it looks like a very nice place that I am sure would be the best option at a different time of year.

Any feedback on how the gameviewing is near Shompole?

Thanks, I am a little slow, but I will get the hang of it soon!
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