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Please help me put together my Kenya/Tanzania Sept. itinerary!!!!


Mar 31st, 2005, 03:52 PM
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Sorry, I have a habit of using abbreviations. Yes KQ is Kenya Airways (not to be confused with Air Kenya which run mostly domestic flights within Kenya). KLM flies directly into Kilamanjaro airport (JRO) from Amsterdam (AMS). JRO is the closest airport to Arusha (about an hour's drive away). From AMS to JRO it is nonstop, then the same aircraft continues onto Dar Es Salaam (DAR) in southern Tanzania. On the return from JRO back to AMS, the flight makes a stop to pick up passengers in DAR. This flight operates daily.

BA flies from LHR to both NBO and DAR but not JRO. And the DAR flights are only 3x per week. KQ as far as I'm aware flies into NBO only from both LHR and AMS. Hope this helps.
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Mar 31st, 2005, 04:09 PM
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The other problem for those of us flying from LAX is that the KLM nonstop from LAX to AMS arrives too late in the day to connect with NBO or JRO bound flights. These flights both leave before 11:00am. Some of the east coast originating flights get into AMS early enough to make the same day connection, but that adds to the travel time and involves another layover.
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Apr 1st, 2005, 05:01 AM
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If starting your safari in JRO, KLM out of AMS is your best carrier. However, as I understand it, if flying from LHR via BA, once arriving in NBO, if early in the day, there is a connection to a flight on Precision air to JRO (1-hr flight) you'll have your first o/n in Arusha and commence your safari next morning. If arriving late in NBO, then you overnight at a hotel close to the NBO airport and Precision has a flight next morning to JRO so you can commence your safari upon arrival in JRO.

That's the reason I suggested getting into NY (JFK) - the best is the redeye that arrives by 7am, get a hotel room to sleep (you're too far from the City to venture in for the day); then by 3:30pm you return to the airport for the 6:10pm KLM flight to AMS, then from AMS to JRO.

On the return, KLM flies out of NBO at about 10pm into AMS arriving about 6am, from where you can catch a flight to LAX direct (but check the layover time, as the layover to JFK is way too long). Or connect to flight to Newark (EWR) with only a 3-hr layover; from EWR return fly to LAX.

Those are the flight/connections I find work best for us. So you'll have to determine those that work best for you.
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Apr 3rd, 2005, 12:23 AM
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I know I'm late to the party, But stop have a look at that itinerary. They spend more time traveling then anything else. With the time alloted -and covering Tanz and Kenya, They need to kick something out and relax.Unless this is a one off thing to Africa maybe reduce to Kenya or Tanzania.
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Apr 3rd, 2005, 04:25 PM
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Can recommend flying from Ol Tukai at Amboseli to Samburu directly. In February we left the air strip at Amboseli at 8:15, arrived Wilson in Nairobi about 9:00, threw the bags on the Samburu plane and left at 9:15 and arrived Samburu at 10:10. Gave much more time to enjoy Samburu.

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Apr 15th, 2005, 05:18 AM
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HELP!!! I am booking my safari, but can't get two consecutive nights (in Sept) at Rekoro. My operator suggested changing to Governors Camps or Kichwa Tembo Camp.....the first two nights are at Mara Serena.....which would you suggest???

I need to reply to him ASAP, so I need your advice right away.....please!!!

Thanks so much
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Apr 15th, 2005, 10:49 AM
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I believe Mara Intrepids or Mara Explorer, both located along the Talek river, would be in the same general area where you originally intended to stay and closer to crossing points (I think). Others may be able to better advise on location.

Both are Heritage East Africa properties with Mara Explorer being the smaller, more exclusive one if that's what you're looking for. It's also possible that they're both fully booked at this point.

If going with a camp within the Governors or Kichwa Tembo properties, I would look at Little Governors or maybe Governers Il Moran and Kichwa Tembo Bateleur Camp. The main Governors camp and Kichwa Tembo are much larger camps by comparison. None are as small as Rekero though.
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Apr 15th, 2005, 05:31 PM
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I agree that Little Governor's would be a nice option.
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Sep 9th, 2005, 06:52 AM
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It's been a long time since so many of you helped me with my safari, and I thank each of you......couldn't have paid for such good advice.

We ended up using Raylenne's and, so far, I have been very pleased with the services of Matthew. Our final price per person was
$4700, including the balloon safari in the Mara. This excludes flights to Nairobi, but we were fortunate enough to have FF miles from LA to London, and paid about $950 for London to Nairobi.

We are getting very excited, as we leave this Monday.

Here is our final itinerary:

Monday-Tuesday, 12th-13th Sept.-Los Angeles/London

Wednesday, 14th Sept. Arrive Nairobi, fly to Arusha-Impala Hotel, B&B

Thursday,15th Sept. Arusha/Ngorongoro Crater-Sopa Lodge
After breakfast, drive to Ngorongoro Crater for lunch and afternoon crater tour.

Friday, 16th Sept. Ngorongoro/Tarangire Sopa Lodge
Morning crater tour or rim walk, then depart with lunch stop at Gibbs Farm,
arrive for dinner at Tarangire Sopa lodge.

Saturday, 17th Sept. Tarangire-Tarangire Sopa Lodge
After breakfast depart with lunch boxes for a full day game drive at
Tarangire National Park, return for dinner at Tarangire Sopa Lodge.

Sunday, 18th Sept. Tarangire /Lake Nakuru-Lion Hill Lodge
After breakfast, drive to Arusha, transfer to Kilimanjaro for flight to
Nairobi. Drive to Lake Nakuru for dinner at Lion Hill Lodge.

Monday, 19th Sept.. Lake Nakuru-Lion Hill Lodge
Morning and afternoon game drives.

Tuesday, 20th Sept.. Lake Nakuru/Sweetwaters-SweetwatersTented Camp
After breakfast, drive to Sweetwaters for lunch and visit Jane Goodall
Chimpanzee Sanctuary; night game drive.

Wednesday, 21st Sept.- Sweetwaters/Samburu-Larsens Tented Camp
Morning game drive, after breakfast, drive to Samburu for lunch and
afternoon game drive.dinner and overnight at Samburu Larsens Tented Camp.

Thursday, 22nd Sept. Samburu-Larsens Tented Camp
Full day in Samburu; game drive with visit to Elephant Watch, including lunch.
Evening game drive; dinner and overnight at Larsen Tented Camp.

Friday, 23rd Sept. Samburu/Maasai Mara-Keekorok Lodge
After breakfast, fly to Maasai Mara met at the airstrip transfer to Keekorok Lodge
for lunch, afternoon game drive, dinner and overnight.

Saturday, 24th Sept. Maasai Mara-Keekorok Lodge
Full day game drives with visit to tribes, overnight
at Keekorok Lodge. A Balloon ride will be taken this morning.

Sunday, 25th Sept. Maasai Mara-Rekoro Tented Camp
After breakfast, drive to Rekoro Tented Camp for lunch and afternoon game
drive. Dinner overnight at Rekero Tented Camp.

Monday, 26th Sept. Maasai Mara-Rekoro Tented Camp
Two game drives.

Tuesday, 27th Sept. Maasai Mara/Nairobi-day room at Norfolk Hotel
Fly to Nairobi-transfer to the airport for flight out to LONDON for four nights.
We didn't get Mara Serena, our first choice, so Matthew substituted Keekorok Lodge...since that is how it is, it will be fine!

I will try my best to report when I return.....MANY thanks, again, to everyone who helped out on what I am sure will be a fabulous first trip to East Africa, a dream come true for me.

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GGAfrica -

Do have a great time. And you must report on the newly built/refurbished Keekorok - the oldest camp in the Mara. They had a fire in their kitchen in May damaging that building and some others rooms/cottages - was due to reopen in mid-June. Happy travels.
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We'll be eagerly awaiting your report. Have a great trip!
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Sep 9th, 2005, 09:02 AM
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I wish you a wonderful trip!
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