More sad news from DRC - another gorilla shot dead.

Jul 25th, 2007, 08:18 PM
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... and we call ourselves Homo sapiens ...
i sometimes wonder:
How do Gorrilas call us?
What is the term used by Dolphins to describe us ?
probably
Homo horribilis

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one of the first Chimpanzees raised by humans & taught sign-language, upon meeting another chimp for the first time, signalled "black bug" ...
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Jul 25th, 2007, 08:53 PM
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So, Rugendo is still alive?
you cannot imagine the shivering-like sensation that ran down my spine...

This is my story:
1990 i visit Zaire (pre DRC) to go and observe the 2 Gorilla subspecies...
my very kind SilverBack hosts were
Rugabo
a mountain gorilla(Gorilla gorilla beringei)
Maheshe
an eastern lowland gorilla (Gorilla gorilla graueri)

a few years later, both my hosts were dead. killed by Homo horribilis
(i found it first on "Time" magazine)Rugabo was shot together with another female while probably trying to protect a baby...
Maheshe disappeared... it took a few years till i found on the net some info: an informer led the police to where Maheshe's corpse was buried;
he was head-less & his hands' palms had been amputated
(they make ash-trays from Gorilla palms ... ...)

where does <Rugendo fit in ?
sometimes in the 1980s i've read a short article in "Swara" (EAWS) magazine, about some fight between Rugabo & Rogendo and their names were stuck in my mind. later i was excited to meet Rugabo...

Best of luck to you Rugendo

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Jul 25th, 2007, 09:42 PM
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Aby: I don't think the majestic grizzly bear (Ursus arctos horribilis) would appreciate being lumped with the human kind. Perhaps Homo disgustus would be a fit.

Tragic that the plight of the mountain gorilla is so linked to violent humans, and how ironic that it is one of the creatures that was most often misrepresented as monsterous and violent.
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Jul 25th, 2007, 11:38 PM
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I dont normally hop into threads that involve animals, game viewing etc as Cape Town is my forte and I stick to these Fodors threads. With that said, make no error, I am a huge animal lover and every now and then have to say something.

This story is really sick and very, very sad. Makes me want to scream and even momentarily feel as if I want to turn the gun on the killer (not that this will help).

Obviously I have no idea if this poor gorilla or the spoken of silverback or the many other gorillas that have been killed were murdered by high flying hunters or some local party (not that they are'nt as bad as one another anyway) but it just doubles up on the fact that I dont want and wont allow hunters in my car when touring in SA. I took this decison quite a number of years ago after having had a number of experiences of travelling with hunters unwittingly. Can you imagine me sitting in a car touring with someone who suddenly boastfully says "let me tell you when I killed this big gorilla in Africa". Believe me this happens. I reckon there would be a murder in the car at that very moment. These people are really sick, sick, sick.

You cant believe how I wish someone could hunt the culprit down and bring whoever is responsible to book in this case but revenge is not going to help the unfortunately dead gorillas and I do believe that somehow or other we have to continue applying as muh pressure as possible on political groups to protect these wonderful gorillas (and all other animals).

Chris has summarised it all very well however we must not stop making a verbal noise as more animals will die along the way if we shut up. Thus Matt thanks for bringing this very sad tale to our attention even though it did not make for enjoyable reading.

I just cant stop thinking of the poor baby suckling on its mother only to find that she is dead. What a sad sad tale.

Very proudly part of the wonderful nation of South Africa


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Jul 26th, 2007, 02:58 AM
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Aby- the silverback is dead. According to Wildlife Direct's website and the entry on July 24...

"The Silverback of the Rugendo family, Senkekwe, has today been found dead."

And also from July 24...

"Our fears were confirmed when Senkekwe, the silverback was found killed at around ten this morning. The four were carried on stretchers for four hours back to Bukima with the help of about 70 people from the villages."

From today's entry-July 26

"An amazing piece of news. We had given up hope on Ndeze, the child of Safari, who was being looked after by her brother. Unfortunately he was unable to feed her. My rangers found her today with her older brother. Her brother was quite calm when our rangers took her from him..."

She's in good hands now, at the MGVP headquarters in Goma. I pray she survives, but to be released back into the wild will be a whole other drama.


The link to the blogs:

http://wildlifedirect.org/blogAdmin/gorilla/
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Jul 26th, 2007, 03:14 AM
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Selwyn-
Just a footnote on the killing of gorillas.

Gorillas aren't hunted for trophy or sport. They are protected. Thank God for that! So you shouldn't ever run into anyone who boasts on killing a gorilla. Now lions, leopards etc, eles, etc., you can keep tossing those folks out on their ears!

Most of the time, gorillas are killed by local villagers, poachers, or rebels who are completely strung out on drugs, in the areas of civil unrest or strife. The adults who are murdered are used for bushmeat, if the perpetrators get away with it, and the bodies are cut up with the hands and feet, and sometimes the head used as things like ashtrays or souvenirs.

The adults are also killed to get to the
infants so they can be sold on the black market as "pets" or additions to some rich person's zoo. Almost 100% of the time the infant will die because of the trauma and lack of proper nutrition.

In recent years, villagers have started reporting individuals trying to sell the bushmeat and many of them also come forward when they learn of infants for sale.

Unfortunately, as long as there is all the civil unrest going on, rebels lashing out at everything around them, and no value put on lives, human or otherwise, this will continue.

I hope there are still some survivors in the Rugendo group. Without the silverback and with three others missing, it would be a real shame to lose this whole family.

On a more positive note, the mountain gorilla population is growing in some areas of the Virungas, so we do have that to hold on to.
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Jul 26th, 2007, 11:26 PM
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Thanx divewop

can anybody tell me:
Rugendo is only the (historical) name of this group?
Rugendo isn't around anymore ?

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Jul 27th, 2007, 01:20 AM
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Aby

If my information are correct, Rugendo died in 2001 and the new silverback from the Rugendo group "Senkekwe" , was found dead on the 24th July 2007

What a pity
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Jul 27th, 2007, 07:17 PM
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CNN International has just reported that three other gorillas were killed in the DRC in addition to the Alpha Male Silverback plus three females. The male was the leader of a group of 12 and six have been found safe but two are still missing. It is a terrible tragedy.
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Jul 27th, 2007, 07:31 PM
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My previous post was confusing--four gorillas are reported shot--the Alpha Silverback Male plus three females. Four in total. A terrible tragedy.
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Jul 28th, 2007, 04:07 AM
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Some photos from CNN, along with the story.

http://tinyurl.com/3ydq8j


Thank goodness UNESCO is getting involved. Hopefully it's not too late as we really can't afford to lose any more of these precious lives. #39;(
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Jul 28th, 2007, 11:10 AM
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An interview with Richard Leakey:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20003424/site/newsweek/

Incredibly sickening.
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Jul 28th, 2007, 02:25 PM
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A very eye-opening interview.

This is just beyond comprehension.

The photos on msnbc. com of the gorillas are so terribly disturbing and heartbreaking.

God help us all if anything more happens to these animals.
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Aug 2nd, 2007, 12:59 PM
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National Geographic News now has a short video segment up on their website:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...las-video.html

Warning: the video contains some depressing photos of the dead gorillas.

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Aug 2nd, 2007, 03:11 PM
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Sickening... Why ? Why do we do this

What can we do to prevent this ....
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Aug 2nd, 2007, 04:55 PM
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@serengeti: you could donate to an organization like Wildlife Direct that helps pay and equip the rangers in Congo:
http://www.wildlifedirect.org/blogAdmin/gorilla

Cheers,
Darren

(this is not an advertisement -- I am not affiliated with Wildlife Direct)
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Aug 2nd, 2007, 08:45 PM
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I just saw that video on Nat Geo. So very, very sad.
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Aug 3rd, 2007, 05:42 AM
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I really do not understand why this is happening.

I have read all the posts and it is disgusting. What could possibly be the motives????

Clearly sick, uneducated and ignorant people are behind these horrible crimes.

It is just a shame.
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Aug 4th, 2007, 12:39 AM
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I have been a fodorite for a few years now and have never posted in the Africa forum until now. I have been a follower of the plight of the gorillas in Africa for over 10 years now and this recent flare up of senseless violence against them has me incredibly depressed. All just for some trees to make charcoal?
I wish there was a way to get the UN involved and protect this area. The group of evil people that want to control this area have to be taken out of there by force if necessary. They are thugs and murderers.
Over 100 rangers have died trying to protect the gorillas in this region. I guess that proves that there are still good people in the world. It's just hard to maintain optism with so many evil people out there as well.
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Aug 4th, 2007, 07:01 AM
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If you think what they're doing to gorillas is bad, take a look at this:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/africa...eut/index.html

Furthermore, this is not the first such article I've read about this topic--this has been going on for years.
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