Least Favorite / Favorite Airline To Africa?

Mar 20th, 2006, 09:06 AM
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About a year(?) ago, there was an announcement that Kenya Airways, along with a few other airlines, was joining Skyteam as an associate member (whatever that means). Since then, I've not heard anything. It would be great if this eventually materializes as it would probably mean another redemption option to East Africa, other than KLM, for Delta Skymiles members.
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Mar 20th, 2006, 09:10 AM
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Here was my original post, so it wasn't quite a year ago, just feels like it

http://www.fodors.com/forums/threads...4&tid=34633149
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Mar 20th, 2006, 10:11 AM
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thanks.
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Mar 20th, 2006, 02:12 PM
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For those of you willing to splurge (with miles or cash) on business class, South African Airway's international flights are widely regarding as having the best business class seats in the industry. I have not flown them myself, but they lay absolutely flat (not on an angle like Singapore, etc.), are wonderfully soft, and the service is supposed to be great. =D>

If you ever fly biz or first class and are interested in comparing who has the best seats, check out www.flatseats.com.
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Mar 20th, 2006, 02:39 PM
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Airlines ranked from best to worst

First
SAA
Lufthansa

Both way better than any US carrier

Business
Virgin - best overall experience to my mind
BA
United - simply crap - but I fly them a ton in the US and so have the miles.
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Mar 31st, 2006, 01:23 AM
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Every chance I get I fly with Emirates, not for nothing they usually win Airline of the year on a regular basis & it also gives me the chance to do a stopover in Dubai, which is fabulous for the climate & shopping.
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Mar 31st, 2006, 02:08 AM
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Note: SAA dont have a three class cabin on all flights. On the Bombay-joburg route, only business and coach options.......

Emirates first class is only good....on the Dubai-JFK, otherwise the seats on the other flights aren't flat....but the service is very good. Arab dates and coffee before take-off is a very nice option.

BA seats (First and business) very good........the service/food awful!!!!

 
Mar 31st, 2006, 06:08 AM
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Flying to Kenya for the first time thanksgiving 2006. have to purchase 2 tickets from San Diego. Appreciate the tips on what airlines are the best/ worst. Has anyone ever used a ticket consolidator?
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Mar 31st, 2006, 07:19 PM
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I have flown SAA economy (good) and KLM (business). SAA very good-liked the top deck from JNB-ACC and then upgraded to business from ACC-IAD. KLM were a joke.
I am going back to SA (third trip in twelve months) in July and managed to get two upgrades from coach to business using miles from ATL-JNB-ATL. Looking forward to trying out their A346.
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Apr 1st, 2006, 02:25 AM
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hi, i didnt read all this thread-but i can do with out KLM. most planes i have been on, my 1968 galaxy was in better shape.
the food and movie selection-should/could be better.the people who work for KLM are very nice and helpful. got lucky on the way over to uganda on the last leg-that plane had no personal tv screens-but the plane was half empty.i'll take that any day.
northwest-fine
kenya air-i like this one-mzuri sanas all the time working for that airline.
nice planes also.
but KLM-needs a bit of work.
cheers, d
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Apr 1st, 2006, 03:56 PM
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Just got our AA mileage award tickets booked today for Aug/Sept - Gatwick to Madrid on BA, Madrid to Jo'burg on Iberia, JNB-CPT-JNB on BA/Comair, Jo'burg to Zurich on Swiss, Zurich to Prague also on Swiss. All business class; hoping we'll get the new IB beds southbound; looking forward to experiencing Swiss longhaul coming back. (Swiss' relationship with AA ends this autumn; we're squeaking in under the wire. I assume with both Swiss and SAA now in Star Alliance - effective today - we'll be able to use the SAA lounge at JNB before the ZRH flight.) Should be an interesting trip.
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Apr 2nd, 2006, 09:48 AM
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Gardyloo, that's a great schedule. How many FF miles were required for those flights?
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Apr 2nd, 2006, 09:56 AM
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75K each. Doesn't cover the transatlantic portion (SEA-JFK-LHR//FRA-DFW-SEA) which we'll buy on our own.
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Apr 2nd, 2006, 10:06 AM
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Flew SAA coach from ATL-JNB last Dec. They changed the seat configuration to 3-4-3 so my friend and I took both isle seats in the center and the 2 middle stayed open. The food and service was great. The video on demand was cool. I was teaching my section how to play video poker that killed a few hours, loads of fun!

Got upgraded to business class from Vic Falls to Capetown which was good too.
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Apr 2nd, 2006, 12:07 PM
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Iím so happy that KLM takes me to Nairobi and that I donít have to go by boat or walk. If it werenít because they want so much money for the favour, and for the disastrous ecological consequences Iíd consider it quite a miracle. Kenya Airways have a Kenyan crew and signs in Swahili, but since they take me away from Kenya I donít prefer them. Both airlines have given my vegetarian food to other passengers while Iím asleep. I donít understand why they donít show the list with passengers with special diet and ask, ďis this your name?Ē. I suppose they just ask, ďHave you ordered Asian vegetarian?Ē and the passenger, happy with being served before everyone else, just nods without hearing whatís being asked. Anyway, I always get fed something without dead animals in it. I never watch videos. I just sleep in economy class without reclining the seat and then I spend a night in Nairobi to recover.

Air Kenya has made me pay for overweight, but I like them anyway.


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Apr 13th, 2006, 03:53 PM
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Gardyloo,

Sorry to burst the bubble, but I too am flying to JNB on a combination of Delta award tickets and purchased tickets from London to JNB on Iberia via Madrid, all in Business Class. I called Iberia and was told that the MAD-JNB route uses the older planes that have the old business class seats, not the new Business Plus product. A bit of a bummer, but it will certainly be better than coach!
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Apr 13th, 2006, 04:09 PM
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My bubbles are easily burst, but there appears to be considerable irregularity in 'beria's biz bed picture to JNB. Here's a thread on FT that I posted a couple weeks ago - see for yourself.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=541881

Who knows what the summer will bring.

Just glad to be sittin' up front.
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Apr 13th, 2006, 04:23 PM
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Thanks Gardyloo! I'm really hoping I get the new configuration when I travel on July 17th. The thing that makes me suspicious is the ridiculously low price I paid for the tickets: $2,400 per ticket r/t. Happy flat bed hunting!
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Apr 13th, 2006, 04:38 PM
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The Oneworld timetable says 343, AA says 340, IB says 340, Expert Flyer seat map shows 343 so I dunno. Everybody shows a 346 on the day after my current res, so maybe I'll give AA a tinkle to see wazzup. Thanks for the alert.
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Apr 13th, 2006, 04:41 PM
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ElliottNYC, meant to add, the closest 343/346 I can see for your date is on 7/14; all 340s after that until the 20th.
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