Kenya needs our help

Jun 22nd, 2003, 11:30 AM
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Liz -
The Ark does have ensuite bathrooms.

And yes, The Lion Hill is on the side of mountain - agree rather tattered & disappointing, but for 1-nt. I could survive. Everything else was just fine.
Jun 22nd, 2003, 12:14 PM
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Oops - I keep doing this, sorry Jan.
Sandi-It wasn't ensuite in the late 80s. I went there but had them take me back to the Aberdare Country Club because my room smelled so bad. It was next to some oil burner or something and just reeked. They only had bathrooms down the hall then. I've never heard it changed but I would certainly think it should have.

OK Jan, I won't do this again. :
Jun 23rd, 2003, 05:00 PM
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Not a problem at all.

Hey folks, keep your fingers crossed! It looks like things are starting to happen for the better in Kenya as far as tourism goes. According to the East African Standard this morning the government is assuring the inter- national community that the Kenyan airspace is safe from terrorists. They are erecting surveillance towers along airport perimeters at JKA The Government is comitted to providing total security in all airports to contain terrorist attacks.

In another article the Asst. Minister for Tourism asked Washington and London to help Nairobi apprehend the terrorists they say are in Kenya.

I've been around long enough to take anything I read in any papers with a grain of salt. However, this looks like the first real attempt to either get help or to do something about the problem from within.

Also from the Daily Nation, four are to be tried for the bombing at the Kikambala Hotel in December.

Lets keep our fingers crossed that this starts the ball rolling to a safer country for Kenyans and the tourists that so enjoy the country.

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Jun 23rd, 2003, 06:56 PM
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Thanks Jan. I saw Sec. Powell on CNN the other night, and he said we (the U.S.) have been working with Kenya officials to work out this situation.
Thanks for posting the newspaper information. I hope, I hope, I hope!
I DO NOT WANT TO CANCEL MY TRIP!! I am tired of planning and then nothing.
Since our tickets are on British Airways I have to go with what they decide. Sigh. Liz
Jul 4th, 2003, 12:06 PM
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Just returned from Kenya last night and will post a trip report later after the jet lag eases.
As Jan noted in her post there has been much progress with the security concerns. When I left for Amboseli from Wilson on June 15th - there airport security was extremely minimal. That has since changed dramatically - they now have baggage screening machines and check people coming and going. Kenyan airport officials are still trying to sort all of this out- and there is still room for some improvement.

Regarding "travel warnings" - keep in mind that these are much like the"potential side effects" message on medication labels - if there is a even a hint of danger - you must be informed.

Re: embassy closings- these too are very real precautions, but sometimes embassies close for "internal security checks," and for evacuation exercises, etc. For me, the sentinel event which would lead me not to v isit a country is when the Embassy actively removes its personnel out of the country. Just because the embassy is closed doesn't mean diplomatic staff have left the country - they are now working in their homes.

If you want to keep your options open and not let the US government or British government decide for you - then book on Kenya airways out of London. Or use the KLM route out of Amsterdam.

I'm not trying to minimize potential dangers or question the veracity of government issued warnings- just to take them with a "grain of salt" -- and make your own decision.

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Jul 4th, 2003, 01:32 PM
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Just adding a tiny note. I am not suggesting that anyone be cavalier in their approach to personal security or that they completely disregard the warnings posted by governments who are (presumably) in possession of more knowledge about specific threats than the rest of us.

But, we went ahead with our trip to Jordan at a time when government warnings were becoming more cautionary by the week during the build up to the recent Iraq war.

We appreciated that Jordan's geographical location between Israel and Iraq was sensitive and precarious but we really felt that it was important to understand the level of risk.

I remember quie some years ago that there were some reports published about the increased risks of thrombosis for women on a particular type of contraceptive pill. The new reports explained that risks were twice as high as previously thought. Thousands upon thousands of woman stopped taking the pill overnight in a panic reaction. Unfortunately this lead to far more serious problems - including unplanned pregnancies in women who were physically unable to carry children, and complications arising from childbirth for many others. Given that the risks had increased from something minute such as 0.003 % to 0.006% (I'm making up the figures as I can't recall them) this reaction actually meant that more women suffered other (sometimes serious) health problems than would ever have suffered thrombosis according to the revised statistics.

Anyway, I know I'm rambling and, as I said, I don't want to disparage official security warnings, but just to say that I think it's critical to retain perspective when considering these issues.

As is oft repeated - anyone of us could get run over by a bus tomorrow.

I'm planning a second trip to Southern Africa for 2004 at the moment - a trip that's long been in the pipeline and is now becoming an 8 week rather than a 3 week journey.

But I truly hope all of you will still be here in a year or two's time when I am ready to plan the next trip to the countries of East Africa.
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Jul 4th, 2003, 01:32 PM
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Just noticed how I started my last post... "a tiny note"... ha ha ha!
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Jul 5th, 2003, 12:58 PM
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Nicely said Kavey. I do not mean to belittle anyone's travel concerns, but the fact of the matter is much has changed for US citiznes in the past couple of years. As we saw on the tragic day of Sept. 11, 2001, we can not assume that going through our everyday routines here in the US - whether it be going into the office for work or catching a cross country flight - will make us immune from terrorism. Alas, times have changed. But as I said before, if it is time for my number to be up, I would rather it be while en route or in Africa than anywhere else.
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