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Feb 22nd, 2005, 09:45 AM
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Hi David

No reason to worry about safety. Your outfitter will meet you at the airport and drive you to your hotel which I assume is a good one?

The next day you will be driven to Wilson Airport. Neither of these two short transfers are unsafe.

I assume you are doing a fly-in? I would. More for convenience than safety actually.

4 or 5 nights are not too much as it will give you enough time to wait for Mara crossings, etc. And with enough time to do a variety of romantic things such as the bush dinners, etc.

You could fly (roads are bad for driving) to Nakuru for a night or so and see a few different things. That's up to you if the flights work out. It's a great park.
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Feb 22nd, 2005, 10:36 AM
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Thanks for the info. I am not doing it alone so I will be met by someone each step of the way. They suggested the Norfolk Hotel in Nairobi. I was just taken aback when I read travel warnings that mention that hotel as well as others as terrorist targets. They also road travel in the Rift Valley can be susceptible to car-jackings. I guess there are many places in the world that require vigilance when traveling, there are however places that I would avoid all together and I want to know if Kenya should be on that list. If we go, Iíll take your advice about flying in rather than driving.
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Feb 22nd, 2005, 11:04 AM
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Hi David

You bring up some valid points. If tourist hotels are targetted what can be done? I guess that's a personal decision. The Norfolk is spread out and only 2 to 4 floors high with rooms surrounding an open square. Compare that with hotels that are straight up with 15 or more floors. You make the call!

There are certainly other less known options such the Windsor, etc.

I cannot comment on road safety since we fly not drive, but I've not read anything bad about that road in the East Africa newspapers. Maybe someone else has.
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Feb 22nd, 2005, 11:05 AM
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david - the US State Dept. warning is a rehash or an earlier one. With one hand they take away with the other they give you something. Initially the State Dept warnings at the beginning of the Iraq war, destroyed tourism worldwide and was really uncalled for. And the impact it had on travel to East Africa was disasterous. Thankfully, by 2004 the tourists were back, especially Americans, who are the first to stop traveling, to numbers approaching those pre-Iraq war. Then in May (I believe) the State Department lifted their previous "don't-go" warning, to one similar to elsewhere "travel with caution." And, nowadays, wherever one travels, it should be with caution. Then in November - the State Dept. was back to panicking folks, unnecessarily!

Like you, a number of travelers were concerned, but eventually took their vacations to East Africa and returned raving about their experiences; most importantly, that they felt perfectly safe throughout.

Yes, there is street crime in Nairobi... what city doesn't have this problem; but rarely is this against tourists, rather on locals. Both the Kenyan and Tanzanian authorities take safety very seriously, and cannot afford a "situation" involving guests who are visiting with them.

From the time you depart baggage claim there will be someone with you constantly - taking you to your hotel, security at the hotel, transfering you to airport, with security there, and just about everywhere. Once out on the plains of the Mara or elsewhere, you'll be fine. Probably more comfortable with a greater sense of safety then back in the States. Likewise, your time on Mnemba will be perfectly safe.

As with any place people choose to travel these days - awareness is a must, you can't leave your common sense at home. It is just plain smart to leave expensive jewelry at home (including that faux or real Rolex on your wrist - Timex tells the same time) - costume if fine, but even that's not necessary. It winds up being a distraction to animals - by sound and the glitter. You keep passports, credit cards and extra funds in the hotel/camp safe, try not to walk the streets unescorted, besides your guide is great at running interference for unwanted touts. And while on safari, you need only adhere to the rules of safari, which will be told to you ahead of time.

By the time you board your homebound flight, you'll be wondering what all the fuss was about. If it were otherwise, so many of us repeat travelers and even first-timers wouldn't already be planning our next trips to Africa.
Feb 22nd, 2005, 11:11 AM
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Thanks Sandi for the post. I think it's a green light for Kenya! I'll let you know how our planning turns out. Thanks again!

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Feb 22nd, 2005, 11:19 AM
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Thanks guys. Iím going to try and avoid the overnight in Nairobi altogether. We get in from Dubai at noon and can hopefully fly at to the Masai Mara that day spending wither 4 nights at Il Moran or Kichwa Tembo Bateleur. We were thinking of then flying to Tanzania and spending 2 nights at the Crater Lodge before heading to Mnemba for 4 nights. Do you think itís a good idea to work in the the Crater? Or should we spend two nights at another location in Kenya before Mnemba? Any suggestions? Thanks guys.

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