Il Moran: good location for Migration in September?

Mar 31st, 2009, 06:55 AM
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Il Moran: good location for Migration in September?

Hi everybody,

sorry, but as always I am not sure about which camp to choose for the Mara. I plan a new trip for end of August/beginning of September. We had to give up our plans for Botswana in April this year because of my husbands job... hopefully he can arrange two weeks August/September.

Last year we stayed at Mara Bush Camp and Mara Explorer which were both ideal for the migration in August. We enyoed both camps which were very diffrent - first one very safari-bush-feeling, second much more luxury, excellent food and spectacular setting (I loved it).

To have a change, we are thinikg of Il Moran instead of Mara Explorer. What do you think? How about location? Are the crossing points in September far away from Il Moran??

Thank you!!!
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Mar 31st, 2009, 09:46 AM
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Il Moran is good but there are better choices:

http://safari.go2africa.com/kenya/masai-mara-safari.asp

As there are several crossing points the crossings can take place at any point at any time.

The Serena is better (but not to compare with Il Moran's feel!) and have a look at Entim which is a brand new camp compareable to Mara bush i guess regarding the bush feeling but not to Il Moran for the luxury.

By the way: How did the Mara bush camp conduct the game drives? Restricted to 2 a day during migration? Or did you have your own vehicle coming from Nairobi?
I was on game package they are doing 2: early morning 3 hours and afternoon the same. Maybe you can enlighten me here.

Happy Planning!

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Mar 31st, 2009, 01:20 PM
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Il Moran is the high-end of the Governor's Camps which is ideally sited inside the Triangle.

Entim is a lovely small camp (5/tents) at a bend of the river on east side of the Triangle (south of Explorer) where the hippos come out at night to graze on the lawn, where the herds do cross (but I believe earlier in the season) and though expensive, I don't think it compares to lux level of Il Moran. From Entim you can actually see the lights from the Serena, 30/miles away as the crow flies.

Serian is a nice choice, while outside the Triangle, though not far from crossing points... offers exclusive use of vehicle/guide for each tent and game drives aren't limited.
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Apr 1st, 2009, 02:19 AM
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Spassvogel

Thank you. Can I ask what better choices? Serena is not our type of camp/lodge. The location is for sure exceptional (we stayed there for one night last year) but I dont like the logde-feeling...

We had our own vehicle and guide at Mara Bush. While we stayed there, there were only people of sunworld safari. Sunworld is running the camp and is a safari operator. We had no need to check how they handle people from other operators without their own cars, sorry. I chekched on their homepage (http://www.marabushcamp.com/de/pirschfahrten.html) but they dont give any further information. Best would be to ask Mr. Nowak who is in charge for Europr; he for sure can help out.

Sandi: thank you!! Entim seems to be very comparable to Mara Bush but much more expensive. That is why we chose Mara Bush. What do you think: would Il Moran be a bit of a change to Explorer? Just to have three last luxury days in a prime area for the Migration.

Is Serian not too far from the crossing points? In addition, would we pay for parc entrance? We have our own guide to exclusive vehicle is not important for us.
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Apr 1st, 2009, 07:15 AM
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Compare prices Il Moran and Explorer and see if the former works with your budget. IM is expensive.

With the few camps that are closest to actual river crossing points, and because the wildies can cross anywhere (or not), Serian is still a great camp. Game drives can be done anywhere on the conservation lands, the Triangle and/or in the Reserve. Again Serian provides you with your own private guide/vehicle. Their park fees have always been included access to all areas.
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Apr 1st, 2009, 08:21 AM
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Thank you steffi for the info.

Just check ENTIM: The peak season rate pp in double should not be more than 330$ on game package! That's an absolutely great rate considering the location!
Of course 60 pppd park fee come on top of it!

Having your own car/guide you might be able to negotiate a Full board rate. Contact ENTIM via the www.ilkeliani.com site - they belong to one owner!

Good luck!

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Apr 1st, 2009, 08:36 AM
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I believe the rate is higher for peak season.

Best to check directly!
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Apr 1st, 2009, 08:56 AM
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Thank you for the info.

I had rates from Entim which were the double compared to Mara Bush. Mara Bush does not include drinks but is full board as well. Go Safari has Entim for $ 500 pp (http://www.go-safari.com/Masai%20Mara/Entim.htm) That is why we decided against Entim.

Il Moran is quite expensive but Explorer seems to be even more expensive. The bad thing with Il Moran is that we dont get a Full Board Rate...
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Apr 1st, 2009, 09:25 AM
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I would highly recommend to email the camp directly. Go safari might have the rates it go last year and did not revise them.

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sorry typo: ...rates it goT last year

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Apr 1st, 2009, 10:23 AM
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I just asked my TA to check availability and we will see hopefully tomorrow. In case Mara Bush and Il Moran are fully booked, I will check on Entim (hopefully they will have tents left... only five tents are not much...)
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Apr 1st, 2009, 11:38 AM
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Most, if not all, of the small camps are booked on a GP-game package basis, as they don't have facilities to put up individual guides and their vehicles. These are booked as "fly-in/out" with airstrip transfers included.
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Apr 2nd, 2009, 08:12 AM
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I just spent about 10 days in the Mara staying at a variety of unknown, new and not-so-new camps, including Entim.

On go-safari.com the 2008 rates are NOT an oversight. In several cases I decided to post 2008 rates instead of the published 2009 rates because there is a constant barrage of new deals available and the 2008 rates are on average a bit closer to the actual 2009 rates after discounts. In many cases the 2009 rates are lower than 2008.

For the foreseeable future, it may be best to ignore out-of-date rates on the internet and to work with a specialist safari company (or book direct) in order to get the latest discounts.
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Apr 3rd, 2009, 07:14 AM
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Sounds very interesting, climbhighsleeplow. Where did you stay in the Mara???

Our reservation went through!! So we will just have to wait and decide wheather we go or not...
Oh, and Larsens in Samburu was completely booked end of august so we will have to split between Elephant Bedroom and Larsens in the end. I was surprised that Samburu seems to be full end of august... Did you know about this?
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Larsens in Samburu was completely booked end of august

When we stayed at Larsens there were a few groups traveling with A&K/Akorn staying there. Perhaps some are block bookings and will be released closer to departure.

Where did you decide to stay in the Mara?
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Apr 3rd, 2009, 08:15 AM
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Haven't definitly decided but made reservation for 4 nights Mara Bush and the 3 nights Il Moran. We chose for best locations, to have a variety in camps, an exclusive one in the end and Mara Bush and not Entim because Entim was much more expensive...
What do you think??
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