Hand Baggage Banned on UK flights

Old Aug 14th, 2006, 03:12 PM
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My appology, Marija--sort of. I did go back to the BA website, and found this recently posted passage (not there this a.m.):

"In addition to the laptop sized bag mentioned above, passengers departing on flights to the UK from North America, South America and the Carribean, who are not transfering onto any other connecting flights, will be able to take on board an additional piece of cabin baggage no bigger than 56cm x 45cm x 25cm." Notice though that it states an exclusion--"...who are not transfering onto any other connecting flights,..." so it is still unclear what I can take aboard since I and many of you ARE connecting to other countries. BA directs the reader to another website, www.dft.gov.uk, for more info:

Following the Joint Terrorism Analysis Centre's decision to change the UK threat level from Critical to Severe, the following aviation security measures will apply at all UK airports with immediate effect.

These arrangements apply to all passengers starting their journey at a UK airport and to those transferring from international flights at a UK airport.

Each passenger is permitted to carry ONE item of cabin baggage through the airport security search point. The dimensions of this item must not exceed: a maximum length of 45 cm, width of 35 cm and depth of 16 cm (17.7"13.7"6.2" approx) (including wheels, handles, side pockets etc.). Other bags, such as handbags, may be carried within the single item of cabin baggage. All items carried by passengers will be x-ray screened."

This one seems to contradict BA's statement. My conclusion? Things are achanging minute by minute. They seem to be going in the right direction. And I think I ought chill for awhile while things sort out.


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Old Aug 15th, 2006, 07:34 AM
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Hi all, Just thought I'd forward on BA's latest re. the "hole" in their last carryon advisory which did not define what is allowed for travelers xferring through Heathrow.

"Flights transferring through the UK
Customers transferring through London onto another flight must not buy any of the prohibited items listed above in duty free.

Customers transferring through the UK will be subject to the same hand baggage size restrictions as those originating their travel in the UK.

If you arrive into the UK to connect with a British Airways flight (irrespective of original carrier), with more than one laptop size bag (16cm x 35cm x 45cm), you will be refused travel."

No specific mention for/against camera gear/film, so I think we'll be allright to carry them on the plane.


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Old Aug 15th, 2006, 09:42 AM
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Steeliejim, I'm glad the travel restrictions have loosened in time for your trip. It's really important to get that film on board and not in your checked luggage.
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Old Aug 16th, 2006, 10:23 AM
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HI All,
I spoke to BA about camera equipment and they said as long as it fits in the bag size that they mention, it is okay. So I have manage to get everything except the batteries and chargers in my brand new and expensive Pelican case purseand am thrilled to be able to carry it on board. Let's hop by Sunday when I leave I can take a small real purse as well!
Looks like Tom will be proven right!!!
Ha!
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Old Aug 16th, 2006, 12:22 PM
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Indeed, Tom proven right again. Thank you very much.
regards - tom
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Old Aug 16th, 2006, 12:43 PM
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LOL!
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Old Aug 16th, 2006, 06:54 PM
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We're leaving in a couple of weeks and like some of you I had also been going through the whole "should I FedEx, should I get a Pelican case and hide it in a ratty piece of luggage" scenario.

Anyway, the latest news is a relief and although my photo-backpack is probably still too large for the new carry-on limits, I did find a great bag for anyone who's looking around. I just ordered an OMNI PRO bag from Lowepro. It's almost exactly the right size (about half and inch over) and it will fit a lot of gear. The great thing is that it is also designed to fit into a Pelican case (can't remember which model) just in case you ever have to go that route.

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Old Aug 16th, 2006, 11:21 PM
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Dear Mr Jones,

13moons did you by any chance get the name of the person you talked to? Are you originating and terminating your trip in London. The reason I ask is that I just got a most disturbing response to the on-line query I had made to BA three days ago. I clicked on the provided link but it just referred me back to the same advisory that now permits electronics onboard and makes no specific prohibition of camera gear. Which would lead any reasonable person to conclude that it is permitted.

"I am sorry you are disappointed with our previous response.

Electronic equipment, including laptops, mobile phones and portable music and DVD players can now be carried as carry-on baggage. Cameras may not be allowed as carry-on baggage. Your will need to check it in the hold of the aircraft. We are unable to accept liability for such expensive and delicate items. As you wish to carry your camera equipments, please ensure they are covered for any loss or damage under your own personal travel insurance. Our current hand baggage restrications can be found on ba.com at:

https://askba-faqemail.custhelp.com/...ted=1155215804

As government is easing restrictions on hand baggage on flights, I request you confirm this information prior to travel. Contact numbers can be found on ba.com at:

http://www.britishairways.com/travel/ctclist/public/

Thank you for taking the time to contact us.

Anita
British Airways
http://www.ba.com

Next time you have a question about travelling with British Airways, simply go to:
http://www.ba.com/yourquestions

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Old Aug 17th, 2006, 12:08 AM
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No, I did not get the name of anyone. I am flying out on United to London and then connecting in London on BA. I can't tell from your post if you are being told you can't take camera wequipment on board because of security or liability due to expense. It makes no sense. I will contact my travel agen in the am and have her get clarification and tyr to get the name of someone. Let me know what you are planning to do. [email protected]
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Old Aug 17th, 2006, 01:10 AM
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Sorry if I (actually BA's response) wasn't clear. Anita (the BA rep with whom I've been corressponding) stated that BA was just following the UK Dept. for Transport's rules prohibiting camera gear in carryon baggage, and that I should get insurance for my camera gear when it is checked, because loss or breakage is not covered by BA . Of course having ins. would be no help on safari with lost or broken gear. Further, film WILL be destroyed, according to everything I've read, by hi powered scanners usded on checked baggage.

I did go back to the British Airport Authority website and could not find any reference to camera gear on the list of prohibited items. I just have to believe that Anita is wrong, but I'd sure like to see some actual going through security with camera gear experiences.

I'd love to hear, when you have the opportunity, what you find out.

Thanks, Jim
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Old Aug 17th, 2006, 07:07 AM
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Here is an email I received from a Mr. Groves of the Heathrow BAA in response to my query regarding carrying Photo equipment onto an airplane. I hope that the British Airways gate attendents have better info. than Anita of their PR office.
Dear Mr Jones

"Thank you for your email to the BAA Heathrow Press Office.

For clarification: Photographic equipment that does not contain any liquids
or
gels can be taken on board as hand luggage. The cabin bag should be no
bigger than 45cm wide x 35cm long x 16cm deep/high (17.7" wide 13.7" long

6.2" deep/high), including wheels, handles, side pockets - equivalent to a
small
laptop bag or rucksack.

For more information, please see our website on www.baa.com

Kind regards,

Phil Groves
Media Relations Assistant
BAA Heathrow"

Dear Mr Jones

Thank you for your email to the BAA Heathrow Press Office.

For clarification: Photographic equipment that does not contain any liquids
or
gels can be taken on board as hand luggage. The cabin bag should be no
bigger than 45cm wide x 35cm long x 16cm deep/high (17.7" wide 13.7" long

6.2" deep/high), including wheels, handles, side pockets - equivalent to a
small
laptop bag or rucksack.

For more information, please see our website on www.baa.com

Kind regards,

Phil Groves
Media Relations Assistant
BAA Heathrow
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Old Aug 17th, 2006, 07:18 AM
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Steeliejim,
Thanks for sending this...we are flying on BA September 18, bound for Kenya, and we are so upset about checking our camera equipment...this information is a relief, since all info we have been getting is so confusing. Let's hope airport security is on the same page as Mr. Groves when we travel!
Cindy from California
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Old Aug 17th, 2006, 07:28 AM
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I've just read a press story from SAA. (Although perhaps a little ironic considering that SAA-related complaints are usually about pilfering at Jo'burg airport!):

Johannesburg - South African Airways (SAA) will on Thursday lodge a complaint with the British Airports Authority (BAA) regarding baggage delays and alleged pilferage out of Heathrow airport.

The airline said it was deeply concerned about the current baggage problems being experienced out of London's Heathrow airport following the recent security increases.

Over the past weekend, passengers were forced to place their valuable items in hold luggage, due to the ban on hand luggage on all flights departing the UK.

Over that period, SAA has noted a marked increase in the number of bags being delayed out of London and the number of bags arriving in a pilfered state.

"We know we are not the only airline to have been affected but we feel the BAA must be responsible to protect delayed baggage in the wake of the hand luggage ban," said SAA Aviation Security Head, Bert Meintjes.

Following the security level increase by British authorities, SAA placed additional security on all baggage arriving in South Africa from Heathrow, to ensure the contents would not be tampered with from the aircraft's arrival until collection by the customer.
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Old Aug 17th, 2006, 08:31 AM
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Hi Cindy, because I still have some concern about British Airways gate personnel not all on the same page as BAA Heahthrow, I called British Airways and talked with Larry Barnett in the BA Jacksonville office. He confirmed that it is, indeed, okay to carry on photo gear so long as it fits into the single piece of allowed baggage. He also added that it might be a good idea to carry a copy of the email I received. Oh brother! I can just see a busy gate attendent who erroneously tries to keep me from carrying on my photo gear believing an email I show him/her. Feeling better, but still somewhat concerned about BA.
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FAA Bans People From Flights
'Zero Tolerance for People,' Chertoff Says

In a move aimed at further tightening airport security, the Federal Aviation Administration announced today that it would ban all people from flights leaving or entering the United States, effective immediately.

The FAA, which has in the past banned such objects as toenail clippers and hair gel, took the extraordinary step of banning people after the Department of Homeland Security conducted a thorough investigation of previous terror plots.

"We looked at terror plots of the past, and in each and every case, people were involved," said Homeland Security Michael Chertoff at a Washington press briefing. "These new rules send the strong message that the FAA has zero tolerance for people."

Mr. Chertoff said that while banning liquids from flights was a constructive step, the only true solution was to ban people altogether.

"Let's face it, hair gel doesn't kill people," he said. "People kill people
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Old Aug 17th, 2006, 09:57 AM
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Oh, I knew it would come to this!
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Old Aug 17th, 2006, 02:20 PM
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Denis -

You made my day! It's been a long one and I needed a chuckle. But it's so sad and decision makers (both side of the pond) being somewhat inept. Seems W isn't the only person who knows from "double-speak." As a bumper sticker reads "Can 59,000,000 American's all be dumb?"
 
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Hi Dennis,

Hilarious! I'll try to keep this in mind when queuing for my flight to Tanzania...

Cheers,
Julian
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