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Axel2DP Mar 3rd, 2010 05:17 PM

Egypt trip question
 
Hi everyone,

I plan on going to Egypt for the first time in May 2010 and doing it independently. I want to be able to roam around locations at my own pace. How hard would it be to hire a taxi for a day to drive me to my destinations? I understand that the majority of taxi drivers don't speack English, so can hotels easily arrange a taxi for me for the day?

Some guide books paint Cairo as a picture of confusion, while others make it seem like it's a semi walkable city, ie you can easily walk from downtown to the Islamic part of the city. I'm trying to debate if I should try to arrange a guide before I arrive or not. How would I find a guide once I arrive?

About booking internal flights to Luxor and Abu Simbel. Should I try to do it before leaving home? Should I contact an agency like Casual Cairo Detours and have them book them for me?

Thanks,
Alex

Percy Mar 3rd, 2010 06:30 PM

I would for sure contact Debbie at Casual Cairo.

I do not think that Cairo is an easy walkable place.

With temperatures probably in the 90's in May ,I think you better have a guide take you from place to place.

You may pay more this way BUT you also see more.

MissGreen Mar 3rd, 2010 10:21 PM

I remember on another post someone said people travelling independantly had a lot of trouble at the smaller airports where nobody spoke English and they were left to "fend for themselves" as all the groups were looked after.

My guide & driver hired through Lady Egypt has not cost much. I am going in September 10.

MissGreen Mar 3rd, 2010 10:23 PM

Just a question....are you Alexander or Alexandria? It will probably make a big difference in choosing to go it alone.

Grcxx3 Mar 4th, 2010 04:56 AM

Cairo is not a walkable city....at least not in the way we think of European cities. Traffic is a nightmare, the majority of the street signs are in Arabic (some major ones in English), crossing streets is only for the brave, the sites are rather spread out - and it's going to be HOT!!!!

One of the main reasons for getting a guide is that hope that the vehicle you will be riding in has air-conditioning!

wanttogo Mar 4th, 2010 05:38 AM

We had one free day in Cairo to explore the city on our own.
Walking is a nightmare-orn up sidewalks, six lanes of traffic with no stoplights, few crosswalks etc. i would not do it again. On the other hand, the subway was fairly easy to use.
Get a guide and driver is my advice. The days that we spent with a guide and driver were far more pleasant than the one we spent alone.

Pat

Axel2DP Mar 5th, 2010 08:27 AM

Thanks for everyone's reply.

MissGreen,
I'm a guy so I think at least in that one aspect I should be somewhat ok travelling solo :)

I've read a few different guidebooks on Egypt so far and this forum, of course. The current guide I'm reading is the Footprint Egypt Handbook. I just got the impression from reading it that it's not that bad to get from places to places, but maybe the people that wrote the book are very familiar with Egypt already. I'll definitely try to contact one or two agencies beforehand to see what I can work out with having a guide for at least some of the my days in Egypt.

Axel2DP Mar 10th, 2010 10:43 AM

Question about the pyramids at Giza: Are you allow to freely roam around the desert area around the pyramids, or are you restricted to some sort of designated pedestrian paths? Thanks.

Casual_Cairo Mar 10th, 2010 11:37 PM

You can pretty much go anywhere, but there will be the oddball that will blow their whistle and tell you NO NO NO. You have to push it sometimes to see if they mean it and have the authority to really say no. If he is dressed like a policeman, maybe you should pay attention. There will be some that are just trying to "capture" you into their web so they can direct your movement - eventually onto a horse/camel or into their cousins perfume shop.
I'm not spamming here, but just saying it is best to have a decent guide with you, if you want to know what you can and can't get away with.

Grcxx3 Mar 11th, 2010 03:34 AM

ah...yes.....I still have the perfume I got from that cousin's shop!!!

sf7307 Mar 12th, 2010 03:29 PM

Well, does it at least smell good? (FWIW, I still have the rugs I got in Morocco in 1980 from the same cousin -- at least I really like them!)

Grcxx3 Mar 12th, 2010 04:21 PM

Actually.....it's a knock off of something that was popular back in about 2000. :( DH picked it out and I'm not crazy about it. I"m a Chanel gal (either Coco or Chanel #5) - so it's just sitting there.....lonely!

BonnieN Mar 13th, 2010 12:07 PM

i have been to egypt twice. we travel a lot and really like to see places up close and personal. for cairo, you could try to find lonely planet cairo, which might be out of print, but out there on used market or available in cairo. they have very good walking tours. we love walking around cairo and just join a local when you need to cross the street since a red liight is jjust a suggestion.

you would have no problem getting taxis in any of the areas. I got an idea of the tourist price and the local price and negotiated. Most of my drivers had pretty decent English and you could hire them for trip around town, to giza or to Saqaurra. bring a guidebook and read as much as you want. IMO I would defintely go to Saqaurra for a day if you have the time, liked it better than giza. of course you should go to giza and there don't miss solar boat museum.
when you go to egyptian museum, leave camera at hotel- they are not allowed and go around 10 since before that bus tours generate long lines. go directly upstairs to tut and don't miss the mummy room.

for a sense of the nile, i recommend the day trip from luxor that goes north and you might be the only tour boat going that way. take the convoy from luxor to aswan (there is a bus and they will stop at temples where the cruise ships stop or offer express as you wish. and definitely try to stay overnight in abu simbel (walk around the town) and there we enjoyed the light show and went back at dawn for sunrise and few visitors. there is a very nice nubian man who has a small b&b (if his internet is working :)) otherwise stay at the 5 star .
ln luxor, don't miss the nobles and workers tombs area and I like the luxor temple at night (keep day ticket for readmission) and luxor museum is good as is the one in aswan (nubian culture).

you will have fun!

Bonnie
which is very nice western style resort hotel and beautiful.

davecutter73 Mar 14th, 2010 02:16 PM

Each time you are in a hotel they offer the service of having a guide and a limousine. Please note that a limo is actually in fact a reasonable car and not a run down one without doors or headlights. These can all be found at reasonable rates.

true_love_2005 Mar 15th, 2010 06:21 AM

hello all here

donot worry about any thing

i could help any of you although my english not very good

donot worry about single trips

i think single trips are cheaper

for any questions about the weather or may be we met if you are here in fridays

Axel2DP Mar 15th, 2010 07:04 PM

Thanks for everyone's suggestions and ideas. I better book my flight soon if I'm going to make it to Egypt by May :).

I have a question about visiting Abu Simbel. I'd like to overnight there. Fodors said "making this arrangment is out of the norm, so it's best to use a travel agent to book your ticket." Cadogan guides book said "Many [air] seats are booked up to six to twelve months in advance by tour companies...". So do I need to make my arrangement for Abu Simbel now before I leave the States? Will it be too late if I wait until I get to Egypt and then go to a travel agency?

My plan currently is to either hit the Cairo-Abu Simbel-Answan-Luxor route or the Cairo-Luxor-Abu Simbel-Answan route. I guess with the second option I can save some money by taking the overnight train from Cairo to Luxor whereareas with the first option, I would be flying from Cairo to Answan/Abu Simbel and then backtrack to Answan and Luxor.

BonnieN Mar 16th, 2010 03:20 PM

egyptair has flights from aswan to abusimbel at 12N -- you could look around, settle into nubian house or seti hotel and admire the stars and then return to sight at dawn for best photo light. i think you can book the seti at hotelclub.net or call or email the nubian house - they are hard to reach, but super nice people and walk around the town before catching your onward flight.you might need to reconfirm egypt air flights, but i bet your hotel could help you do this or go to egypt air office.
bonnie

Axel2DP Mar 24th, 2010 08:51 AM

My flight back to the U.S. leaves Cairo on a Monday at 4:30AM. Assuming that I need to be standing in line for the check in process at least by 2:30AM can I just spend the night at the Cairo airport? It doesn't seem to make sense to try and book a hotel room for Sunday night since I would then have to get into a taxi at around 1 AM anyway. Thanks.

Grcxx3 Mar 24th, 2010 09:02 AM

The problem - and Debbie can chime in if I am mistaken - is that you may not be able to get past the securty screening (before the check in desk) until it's checkin time (2 hrs before). And therefore - you really can't get into the airport.

This is what happened to us on our last trip. I had 22 students with me and we had to "hang out" before the security area for about 90 minutes. Wasn't fun.

Axel2DP Mar 27th, 2010 09:16 AM

I'm still not sure about how to plan my trip. I already have plane tickets so I'm off to Egypt in May wether I'm ready or not, LOL. I really don't want to be part of a tour group. My interest is photography, and I've always arranged trip independently in the past to accommodate that. I hope to do the same for Egypt. I have ideas of what I want to see and when I want to see it. I just need to have reliable transportation and driver to get me there and back so that I don't waste hours trying to figure out direction. Will hiring a car and driver through my hotel allow me to accomplish this? Will they know to have an English speaking driver? Are there agencies out there that will allow me to do this? How about if I try to contact guides that are recommended on fodors? I wrote an email to Lady Egypt but haven't heard back from them. Thanks for any advice.


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