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happywanderer Nov 25th, 2003 09:29 AM

Egypt Air Q ...
 
Can anyone tell me if Egypt Air has partnershp with any U.S. airline? Trying to find out if I can use mileage to Cairo on a U.S. frequent flier program.

I think the answer is no. Just trying to confirm this.

Thx for the help.

sandi Nov 25th, 2003 11:52 AM

Sorry, but NO!

But they may be connected with a European carrier. Call them and ask.

gail Nov 25th, 2003 03:46 PM

I think Egyptair is the only airline to fly nonstop from NYC - but Delta flies via Paris and American flies on a codeshare with someone.

happywanderer Nov 26th, 2003 04:19 AM

Thx, Sandi.

Thx, Gail.


Gilawi Nov 26th, 2003 04:59 AM

If you are a member of American Airlines frequent flyers miles program, like me, you can fly from US to Cairo, via British Airways or Iberia. I actually have a reservation departing from San Juan, Puerto Rico, to New York - London- Cairo and returning from Cairo via Madrid to San Juan. Hope this helps.

Phil555 Dec 2nd, 2003 07:52 AM

If you have United Airline miles you can use Lufthansia (part of Star Alliance) to fly from the US to Cairo.
They fly via Frankfurt.

sandi Dec 3rd, 2003 04:52 AM

Gilawi -

If you are flying BA from SJU/JFK/LHR/CAI, be aware that you will NOT accrue frequent flyer miles in your AA program for the leg between JFK/LHR. However, if you have a BA frequent flyer account, you might want to give your BA number for that leg.

I gather you will be flying Iberia from MAD/SJU, so that should be okay.

tgnych Dec 15th, 2003 08:44 AM

take care! no alcohol on Egyptair. Not sure if it matters to you but better know.

MauiMaui Dec 16th, 2003 11:00 AM

I belong to Delta and am flying January 04 from Miami via Milan to Cairo on Alitalia.

jacobsonel Dec 17th, 2003 11:25 AM

When I flew Egypt Air several years ago, I vowed that I would never again step foot in one of their planes. The plane was filthy---in a long flight from JFK to Cairo, the bathrooms were never cleaned. We were served dinner when we boarded and got nothing else until a hasty breakfast was served just before we landed---no water, no nothing. The attendants never came down the aisles; they were in the back smoking and sleeping. The plane was on time, but the 60" wait for luggage made up for that. Just a warning---there are better ways to get to Cairo.

wanderlust123 Dec 18th, 2003 02:20 AM

Well, jacobsonel, that worries me a bit as I am flying to Egypt in February on Egypt Air. I have been hesitant to go with them, thinking about making my own flight arrangements, but the cost was considerabley more than the included air with the tour package. Any others with comments on Egypt Air?

sandi Dec 18th, 2003 04:11 AM

I certainly cannot guarantee any particlar flight on any given air carrier will be without fault, but on every flight I've ever flown they serve beverages and then meal-service about one to one-half hours after flight has reached cruising altitude.

Afterwards, shades are drawn and movies are available for passenger viewing. Flight attendents remain in the rear of the plane and don't bother passengers as most are sleeping, reading, or watching movies. If one wants water, they either get up and go to the rear to get it, or ring for an attendent.

Then about one-hour prior landing a lite meal (maybe breakfast) is served - this is usually a cold meal.

I've yet seen the schedule deviate regardless the carrier.

And none of the flight crew are part of the maintenance staff - they do not clean lavs, which, if messy or dirty is due to the passengers. They will, however, close a lav if it extremely dirty.

EgyptAir isn't better or worse than other carriers.

And remember, that you always have to option to bring your own meal (and alcoholic beverage) as EgyptAir doesn't serve.

As far as luggage delays once in Cairo, I've had that happen on half of any flights I've ever flown; more than seeing my luggage waiting for me by the time I've passed through Immigration.

Your main concern should be that the plane takes off and lands.

gail Dec 18th, 2003 09:51 AM

We had fine experience with Egyptair 2 1/2 years ago. Plane was newer 777, service was efficient, food a little odd. Offered splits of wine upon boarding at JFK (to Cairo). Flight attendants did smoke quite a bit a rear of plane, but were available to meet any needs. We found plane cleaner and newer than on most US carriers we have flown. Also took several flights within Egypt - same decent service. (although plane to Abu Simbel was a little older)

Regarding time of dinner service - our flight left JFK at 10 or 11 PM, and dinner was served as soon as plane reached safe altitude - then they left us alone to sleep. Got light meal about an hour before we landed. Luggage arrived within a reasonable time.

I think I have had good and bad service on just about any US carrier I can think of. Sorry, jacobonsel, that you had a bad experience. Just wanted to let wunderlust know not everyone had as bad a trip.

wanderlust123 Dec 18th, 2003 11:15 PM

Thanks so much for your feedback, sandi and gail! I appreciate the reassurance and feel better about flying Egypt Air. I agree, the most important part is that the plane takes off and lands. One more question -- do they really allow the flight attendants to smoke on the plane? I thought these were non-smoking flights.

sandi Dec 19th, 2003 03:56 AM

With few exceptions smoking is prohibited on most airlines; however, I've noticed that on some foreign carrier, though they don't make mention of it, they do hold a row or two at the rear of the plane for smokers - and many of the flight attendents take advantage of this. So while the plane is non-smoking, those who choose to, just use one of the seats in the rear for the time it take to finish a cigarette then return to their own seat upfront.

Joe_in_Silver_Spring Dec 21st, 2003 10:27 AM

We flew from JFK to Cairo on Egypt Air 11/29/03 and returned 12/13. The plane and flight were indistinguishable (sp?)from other flights I've taken this year, except there was no alcohol. Restrooms were clean and food was adequate--typical western fare.

ptcruiser Dec 28th, 2003 02:08 PM

Far as I know, answer is NO to the frequest flyer question. I flew JFK-Cairo October 2003. Had reading light problems in our section of plane on outbound flight, children somewhat cry-baby like, but no alcohol (or smoking). Return flight delayed 5 1/2 hours, but upon arrival at JFK, nearly everyone missed connecting flights. Egypt Air accomodated EVERYONE with overnight accomodations, including meal voucher, and full-fare return ticket next day to Orlando. That portion (Orlando-JFK R/T was MY responsibility, as I didn't book it as a thru ticket, so most generous of them.) I'd fly them again in a heart beat! Couple lavs got well used, but attendants kept them reasonably clean, even if it wasn't their responsibility. Go for it!

SmileyFace Dec 28th, 2003 03:19 PM

Terrible flights. Try another airline. We flew them recently on Business Class JFK to CAI and back. I wouldn't recommend them, especially if onflight smoking bothers you. Although all their flights are supposedly non-smoking, the flight attendants apparently felt that this did not apply to them. Except for meal times, most just hid at the front of the plane behind closed curtains smoking. This forced some of the business class passengers to get their own drinks from the galley and I noticed that some of the attendants even changed out of their uniforms into sweatsuits for about 1/2 of the flight. When one of the passengers complained of the smoke, they tried to pass it off as the smell of Egyptian food.

Check in at JFK and in CAI was extremely slow and confused. Some other passengers I saw actually upgraded to business just for the shorter check in line after becoming frustrated with the slow check-in process. Food was subpar and leave lots of time for connections because we never left on time (including our Domestic Egypt Air flights).

Egypt was great, however, just try to get there on another airline.

wanderlust123 Dec 30th, 2003 11:41 PM

Smileyface, how recently did you have this experience? I keep readimg a mixture of responses on Egypt Air and keep wondering if it has improved more recently or or if it depends on the particular flight or if it depends on the person's perspective experiencing the flight or if it is just a mixed bag. Any help appreciated.

ncanavan May 10th, 2004 12:08 PM

Just got back.

Egypt Air was fine. Food and service were exceptable, the plane was in good shape and flights (including three domestic flights)were on time.
No alchohol is served, and in-flight movies are censored in occasionally puzzling ways.
I do have one tip: the bulkhead row is row fourty (more leg room), and those sitting in windows on the right side get to see the pyramids prior to landing.

SmileyFace May 12th, 2004 01:09 PM

Just read the wanderlust 123's question. This was a Dec 2003 flight.

wanderlust123 May 12th, 2004 05:30 PM

I appreciate the feedback from everyone. Just FYI, I ended up flying Egypt Air to and from Egypt in Feb-Mar 2004, plus I took several Egypt Air domestic flights within Egypt and to and from Jordan. Had a variety of experiences. Prior to departing the US, I had considered switching to another airline for the International portion but decided the extra cost was not worth it.

As it turned out, I got three seats to myself on the flight from NYC to Cairo and slept quite well. The food was fine and I was thinking that Egypt Air was not bad. I did get a hint of smoke which I expect was from the flight attendants sneaking cigarettes behind the curtain. The flight back was more crowded so I "only" got one seat.

The domestic flights were another matter. Most were late (the monitors at the airport would read that the flight was boarding, or departed, before they even brought the plane to the gate, etc.) and one time Egypt Air provided tickets for people in our group who were actually wait-listed and did not really have confirmed seats.

The most unsettling event however was on a flight from Amman, Jordan to Cairo. There was a ruckus in the other aisle, across from me, just as we were ready to take off. Apparently someone had fallen unconcious out of his seat and into the aisle. Not knowing what to do and having no medical personnel respond to the plea for a doctor over the speaker, the flight attendants hauled the passenger (unconcious) back into his seat, buckled him in as the engines revved up, and we took off! The poor man was still unresponsive when we landed in Cairo. I have no idea what eventually happened to him.


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