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Mar 24th, 2006, 01:09 AM
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Delta From USA To South Africa - How Many FF MIles Required?

Now that Delta will actually be flying their own planes to South Africa, how many miles will be required to fly Delta to South Africa? This flight is 120,000 miles for business class on SAA and 80,000 miles in economy class, if I am not mistaken.

Unless Delta has some decent planes for this flight, with good in-flight entertainment, I cannot imagine choosing Delta over SAA, IF I am allowed to use AMEX miles for SAA. Will AMEX points be transferable to SAA?
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Mar 24th, 2006, 04:26 AM
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Delta's points needed are the same. I just got 2 FF tickets to SA using my Delta points. Remember you need to book at the earliest allowed day (331 day ahead) because the FF spaces are gone within a few days.
But do you really want a Delta ticket now?
The way the pilots are talking they may not exist in a few months !
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Mar 28th, 2006, 02:05 PM
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Rocco,
The same number of miles would be required on Delta operated flights to South Africa or any Skyteam airline (KLM, Air France) for that matter - http://www.delta.com/skymiles/use_mi...nada/index.jsp

I don't think they plan to offer anything different than their current Business Elite service, so it'll be like your ATL-AMS flight. I find Delta's Business Elite to be on par with KLM's World Business Class and prefer both over Air France in business. Air France does offer first class though, but I've never tried it.

You can use Amex Membership Rewards points for SAA but only for an economy class certificate - http://www.membershiprewards.com/Cat...d=103&pid=4261

You cannot transfer Amex MR points to SAA's Voyager program.

You could look into redeeming SAA awards through Aeroplan or ANA. Both are Star Alliance members and both programs accept point transfers from Membership Rewards - http://www.membershiprewards.com/Cat...tid=103&ahcr=1
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Mar 28th, 2006, 02:17 PM
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Out of curiousity I dug up the Air Canada Aeroplan Star Alliance award chart - https://www.aeroplan.com/en/rewards/..._chart_eng.pdf

Seems like they require 130,000 in economy and 185,000 in business for an award from the US to South Africa. Ouch!

ANA is much better at 70,000/100,000 in economy/business - http://www.anaskyweb.com/us/e/amc/gu...iair_4.html#sa
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Mar 28th, 2006, 04:28 PM
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So, Patty, I guess what you are suggesting is that we can join ANA's frequent flyer program and then transfer 70,000 miles to get trip to South Africa. What's more interesting to me is that I can transfer 50,000 for a trip to Dakar (that trip requires 80,000 on Delta). Thanks
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Mar 28th, 2006, 04:42 PM
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Yes, that's what I'm suggesting as a potential option for those who have Amex MR points since SAA will end their partnership with Delta. However, I'm not familiar with ANA's frequent flyer program so don't know anything about the ease or difficulty of obtaining awards. You might want to check out the ANA Mileage Club forum at Flyertalk - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=443
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Mar 28th, 2006, 05:23 PM
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ANA accepts AMEX membership rewards points?

Website for ANA and where do they fly out of?

Thanks.
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Mar 28th, 2006, 05:45 PM
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ANA and Air Canada are both Star Alliance members that accept Amex MR points. ANA is All Nippon Airways based in Japan. It doesn't really matter where they fly since I think most on this board will be interested in redeeming SAA flights (see link above to ANA site).

On closer inspection, it looks as though the single airline SAA award through ANA may only be valid from a SAA gateway city (currently JFK, ATL, IAD) and doesn't include your domestic connection to get to one of these gateway cities, so that's something to consider if you don't reside in/near New York, Atlanta or DC.
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