Decided on Tanzania, I think!


Feb 16th, 2007, 02:07 PM
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Decided on Tanzania, I think!

After a bit of advice on this board, I think I've decided on Tanzania (over Botswana). But I think Kenya is an option as well.

Why should I do Kenya over Tanzania or vice versa?

I'm going to go in late September/early October. From a bit of research I've found that northern Tanzania/Southern Kenya is best.

I just received a quote from a safari company that was a bit higher than I'd expected. Here's what I'd like:
1. There will be four of us, want private safari
2. I love the idea of luxery huts more than the lodges, although one or two nights at a lodge is fine. I want nice accomodations.
3. Want to do Ngorogoro, Serengeti, Tangire. Probably be on safari for 7-8 days, then three days in Zanzibar.

I've been looking at the info on the Good Earth website and it sounds right up our alley price wise. Why are other safari companies so much more? I want Abercrombie and Kent type safari without the uptight people and group atmosphere, and of course without the Abercrombie and Kent prices!

You all have been so helpful. Any advice? Other safari outfitters that I should look at?
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Feb 16th, 2007, 08:32 PM
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Why Kenya over Tanzania? In Sept/Oct the bulk of the migration is in the Maasai Mara. In areas around Samburu you can see different species that you cannot see in other Kenya or Tanzania parks.

Why Tanzania over Kenya? If you are going to be in Tanzania for Zanzibar, then it makes sense to safari there as well. You want your 7-8 days to be as productive as possible. The Ngorongoro Crater is unique. Mobile tented camps in the Serengeti.
Private for 4 is very doable.
Combo of tents and lodges is logical.
If you have 7-8 days for a safari, and you want the Tanzania parks listed, then I would not go to Kenya.

To include your parks
Arrival in Arusha (1)
Tarangire (2)
Ngorongoro Crater (2)
Serengeti (3) maybe one day in central Serengeti lodge and two in northern tented camp

If you are doing a private safari, then you will not have a group of A&K-ers or any others.

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Feb 17th, 2007, 04:55 AM
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If visiting Sept/Oct, I'd consider hitting the Masai Mara first, where the migration is in full swing.

You can arrive NBO, visit the Mara first, for 3/days (instead of Serengeti, as with the exception of Lobo in the northeast, other properties in Northern Serengeti are expensive). The Mara has lots of options - lodge/camps - at various budget levels.

From here you can fly via NBO to Kilimanjaro, visit Tarangire, then Ngorongoro, then fly to ZNZ. From ZNZ, you can return home from DAR which is a short 10/min flight or back to NBO.

Day 1 - Arv. NBO - o/n
Day 2 - Fly to Masai Mara - o/n
Day 3 - Masai Mara - o/n
Day 4 - Masai Mara - o/n
Day 5 - Fly to NBO; connect to flight to JRO; drive to Tarangire - o/n
Day 6 - Tarangire - o/n
Day 7 - Drive to Ngorongoro, afternoon crater visit - o/n
Day 8 - Option: morning crater tour; drive to Arusha o/n
Day 9 - Fly mid-morning to ZNZ
Day 8 - Drive to Arusha; afternoon flight to ZNZ

at conclusion on ZNZ, you can fly to DAR or NBO for your homebound flight.

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Feb 18th, 2007, 02:04 PM
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Hi Swany, Had to reply to this one since one of my friends is called Swanny. Take a look at our Itinerary from Last September. Went to Kenya and Tanzania. If we went at the same time to the same place we would probably do and stay at the exact same places. Except we would have taken an extra day to go to Lake Nakuru National Park since we didn't see any Rhinos at the other parks.

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Prepared For:


Saturday, September 9, to Friday, September 22, 2006

Friday September 08 Depart USA – Your own arrangements

Saturday September 09 Arrive Kilimanjaro/Arusha, Tanzania
– Impala Hotel

Arrive at 7:50pm via KLM Flight #571 at Kilimanjaro (JRO) Tanzania. After clearing Immigration and Customs (Visa is required at USD$50 – can obtain prior departure or on arrival), you will be met here and transferred to the Impala Hotel in Arusha (B&B)

Sunday September 10 Arusha to Ngorongoro Crater – Serena Lodge
After breakfast, you will have a pre-safari briefing, then head off to your Cultural visit at Il N’gresi village; here you will meet the community and learn about their daily lives - the people, animals, planting of crops and the women’s programs. At the conclusion of your visit you will have lunch in Arusha. You will then depart for the Ngorongoro Crater where you will check-in at the Serena Lodge for your 2-night stay… the balance of the afternoon is at leisure. At dusk you’ll enjoy “sundowners” and dinner at 8pm. (L/D)

Monday September 11 Ngorongoro Crater – Serena Lodge

An early breakfast awaits you before you depart for your Crater Tour on the floor of this long dormant volcano. The road descending into the crater is narrow, twisting and takes you down about 7,000’… it is slow going but once you’ve arrived, an amazing world opens to you. The animals found here are full-time residents having found there way here and stayed. Though they claim you won’t see giraffe as there are no acacia trees, we’ve seen them… so somehow, even giraffe are resident. There are rhino (usually seen from a distance) though with luck you may see them close-up. There are few elephants, but they are here, as are herds of wildebeest, zebra, antelope; lion prides; leopard, jackal, warthog, hyena and pods of hippo in the large pool at the far end of the crater floor.

After about 6-hrs enjoying this wonderful world of nature, you will return to the lodge for lunch or a picnic lunch during an afternoon Crater Rim Walk (3 to 4-hrs) with a local guide. When you return to the lodge at dusk you will be able to enjoy “sundowners” with the amazing view over and into the Crater from the lodge. Dinner will be served at about 8pm. (B/L/D)

Tuesday September 12 Ngorongoro Crater to Tarangire National Park
– Tarangire River Camp

After breakfast, you will drive to the Tarangire National Park. Upon arrival at the park you will check-in at Tarangire River Camp for two-nights. During this time of the year there is a mini-migration taking place at Tarangire where you will find large herds or elephants, zebra; of course, cats and other predators, antelope and hopefully, the elusive leopard. If you are bird enthusiast, this is the place to be. But the best part about Tarangire is the landscape with the amazing Baobab trees … called by locals the “upside down tree” as the top branches look like tree roots. When you return to the camp you will enjoy “sundowners” around the camp fire and have the opportunity to share your game viewing stories. Dinner served at about 8pm (B/L/D)

Wednesday September 13 Tarangire National Park – Tarangire River Camp

With an early wake-up (6:00am… earlier [or later] as you wish) you will be brought coffee, tea or juice and cakes/cookies, to be ready to depart at 6:30am for your morning game drive. You return to camp after about 3-hours for a full buffet breakfast of assorted fruits, cheeses, cereals, freshly prepared eggs, bacon, coffee and tea. You may choose to take a game walk for a few hours or relax, catch up with postcards, write in your journal. Lunch is served between 12N – 2:00pm. Between 3:30-4:00pm Tea is served followed by your afternoon game drive; again returning for “sundowners” and your dinner. (B/L/D)

Thursday September 14 Tarangire National Park (via Arusha to
Amboseli National Reserve – Tortilis Camp

Leaving Tarangire National Park after a very early breakfast, you will drive, via Arusha, to the Namanga Border with Kenya. Here, you will be processed through border procedures (Visa is required at USD$50 – can obtain prior departure or on arrival) and change vehicles, meeting your guide/driver for the Kenya portion of your trip.

From Namanga you will drive to Amboseli National Reserve arriving in time you’re your afternoon game drive and check-in at Tortilis Camp. The tents at the camp offer fantastic views of Mt. Kilimanjaro located only 30-miles south in Tanzania… a perfect backdrop for your stay here.

Amboseli is known for its’ large herds of elephant, and the conservation work done by Cynthia Moss and her team. Elephants are found in the swamp area not far from your camp, as well as other animals that come to drink. Though elephants are everywhere at Amboseli, there are numerous prides of lions often found at the palm-tree groves. Here you will also find the little rascal vervet monkeys, baboons, zebra Masai giraffe, warthog, hyena and birds of all kinds. You will return to camp for “sundowners” and gourmet dinners… many of which are specialized Italian dishes the camp is known for, all under the auspices of the camp matriarch’s training; with vegetables from the camps’ own gardens.
There is a Masai school nearby that is supported by the camps/lodges of Amboseli; if school is in session and you wish to visit, request to do so… arrangements can be made for the following day. (B/L/D)

Friday September 15 Amboseli National Reserve – Tortilis Camp

Today you will have morning and afternoon game drives. When you return from your morning drive and after breakfast, you can relax with a swim (weather permitting) at the pool or visit the school. After another amazing day of game viewing, you’ll be able to enjoy “sundowners” and meeting other camp guests before dinner. (B/L/D)

Saturday September 16 Amboseli National Reserve to Nairobi
– Serena Mountain Lodge

With another early breakfast before your 8:15am flight to Nairobi; your guide/driver will be leaving you here (returning himself, by road to Nairobi) to meet you after lunch. You will arrive an hour later at Nairobi’s Wilson (domestic) airport, where you will be met and transferred for a visit to the Sheldrick Elephant Orphanage and lunch at the world-famous Carnivore Restaurant (vegetarian menu is available). After lunch and with your original guide/driver you’ll head north to the Mt. Kenya area for your overnight at the Serena Mountain Lodge. The lodge is set on beautiful grounds, but known for the “salt-lick” where animals come to drink after dusk. Dinner (B/L/D)

Sunday September 17 Mt. Kenya to Samburu National Reserve
– Samburu Intrepid’s Camp

After breakfast, you will drive still further north through lush green forests, passing small villages and enjoy seeing locals, especially, the children along the roadside, who welcome and wave to you with smiles and laughter. Upon reaching the intersection, at the town of Isiolo, you’ll know you’re entering the (southern portion of) Northern Territories. The people look and dress differently and you’ll probably see your first camels. It’s a short ride from this point when you will enter Samburu National Reserve and on your way to your lodging at Samburu Intrepid’s Camp along the banks of the Ewaso Nyiro River.

Arriving in time for lunch you’ll have time for relaxation before your afternoon game drive. Samburu is known for animals not seen elsewhere in Kenya – the reticulated giraffe with distinct markings; the Grevy’s zebra that looks more like a donkey than zebra; the gerenuk antelope that eats from the trees standing on its hind legs. Recently, wild dogs have been sighted… hopefully, you’ll come upon them. You will also find cheetah, lions, waterbuck, even more rascal vervet monkeys who will attempt to get into your tent… they are fun to watch and laugh about, but present no harm whatsoever… as long as you don’t temp them by leaving any food inside your tent. The scenery here is markedly different then Amboseli.

Here at Samburu you will find the Elephant Watch Conservation Project, for which you can make inquiries for a brief visit the following day. There are also Camel Safaris available – if interested, make arrangements today for sometime during your day tomorrow. At dusk, you will return to camp for “sundowners” and dinner. (B/L/D)

Monday September 18 Samburu National Reserve
– Samburu Intrepid’s Camp

Today you will have morning and afternoon game drives. When you return from your morning drive and after breakfast, you can relax, take a swim (weather permitting) at the very inviting pool, or if pre-scheduled, do a Camel Safari or visit the Elephant Watch Elephant Conservation Project, both or either taken at this time or after lunch and before your afternoon game drive. “Sundowners” await you after a full day here, with dinner following. (B/L/D)

Tuesday September 19 Samburu National Reserve to the Masai Mara
Reserve – Governor’s Main Camp

With an early morning game drive behind you and breakfast following, you will be transferred to the Samburu airstrip for your 10:00am flight to the Masai Mara Reserve to Kenya’s “big sky” country – for the next three-days… the remainder of your safari. Arriving here, you will be met by a driver for your first game drive in this pride of Kenya – on the way to Governor’s Main Camp, situated near the Mara River.

After lunch, you will share a seat in a camp vehicle for your afternoon game drive. Visiting during the annual Migration, you will see some of the million-plus wildebeest, half-million zebra and as many antelope of every kind. These herds will remain on the plains through the month and into October (sometimes even November) before heading back to the Serengeti in Tanzania, when the rains come.

Along with so many animals… read: meals… the predators aren’t far behind. With luck, you may be fortunate enough to see a “river crossing” and possibly a “killing” as the Nile crocodiles await for this same crossing and their next vittles - “The Cycle of Life” taking place right before your eyes. As the sun sets and the skies turn amazing colors, you’ll head back to the lodge for “sundowners” and dinner. (B/L/D)

Wednesday September 20 Masai Mara Reserve – Main Governor’s Camp

Very early this morning, about 5:00am, you will be transferred to the site for your Hot-air balloon safari. Lift-off is at sunrise (between 5:30 – 6:00am), where you will be aloft for about 1-hour. Upon landing, you will celebrate with a champagne breakfast set-up on the Mara Plains; after being returned to camp for a leisurely morning. You may wish to inquire about a visit to a local Masai Manyatta. Afternoon game drive and dinner. (B/L/D)

Thursday September 21 Masai Mara Reserve – Main Governor’s Camp

Morning and afternoon game drives on this your last full safari day. (B/L/D)

Friday September 22 Masai Mara Reserve to Nairobi
– Intercontinental Hotel

With breakfast under your belt, you will be driven to the airstrip for your 11:00am flight to Nairobi’s Wilson (domestic) airport. On arrival at about 12:15pm, you will be met and visit the Karen Blixen (Isak Dinisen “Out of Africa” author) Museum, the Giraffe Center and Kazuri Beads all located near the airport in the suburb of Karen.

You will than be transferred to the Intercontinental Hotel, where a day-room has been arranged until your evening departure. At 7:00pm you will be transferred from the hotel to Jomo Kenyatta International airport for your KLM Flight #566, departing 10:05pm (own arrangements) homebound flight. (B)

Saturday September 23 Arrive USA – Your own arrangements

Exclusive use of Vehicle in Tanzania
Exclusive use of Vehicle in Kenya – Amboseli, Nairobi, Mt. Kenya, Samburu
Seat in shared camp Vehicle – Masai Mara

Included: All airport/airstrip transfers; Daily Park Fees; transport in 4WD vehicle with English speaking Guide/Driver; Two (2) game drives daily while on safari; Exclusive use of Vehicle where indicated; Tours where indicated; VAT where applicable; Internal flights where indicated; Meals as indicated.

Not Included: Gratuities (for guides/driver, porters camp staff, hotel/lodge/camp staff); Alcoholic and non-alcoholic beverages; Services of a personal nature e.g., laundry, telephone, fax, email, etc. Immunization and Malaria medication; Tanzania and Kenya entry Visa fees; Trip Insurance and Flying Doctors Service; International air flights.


Tanzania – Kenya –

Days/Nights: 5/5 Day/Nights: 9/8
No. Flights: 0 No. Flights: 2 Scheduled
No. Meals: 13 No. Meals: 24
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