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Kavey Jul 17th, 2001 01:46 AM

Andy <BR>I am sorry I dont know those camps, as we didn't stay in them, though I heard a lot of very positive comments about Savute in general, I cannot recall if they were about the area in general, about the camp you have mentioned, or another camp in the area. <BR> <BR>I am sure you will have the most wonderful time! <BR> <BR>I can answer questions on <BR> <BR>Wolwedans Dune Lodge <BR>Sossusvlei Lodge <BR>Damaraland Camp <BR>Little Mombo <BR>Little Vumbura <BR>Chitabe Trails <BR> <BR>Kindest Regards <BR>Kavita

Andy Jul 17th, 2001 05:55 AM

Kavita <BR> <BR>further thanks for your information. <BR> <BR>We had considered Mombo or Little Mombo and also Chobe Chilwero plus one other when we saw the Gametracker package and went for that. <BR> <BR>We are going on to Mauritius for a week after the safari as we got married there 6 years ago! <BR> <BR>I am already excited about both aspects of the trip and we don't go till November. <BR> <BR>best wishes <BR>Andy

Jone Jul 17th, 2001 07:20 AM

My family just returned from a Wilderness Safari trip to Vic Falls, Botswana and Cape Town. It was great. We did a camping safari in Botswana and it was lots of fun and more affordable than other options. We saw amazing wildlife! Botswana is known locally as the Switzerland of Africa due to its stability and well managed wildlife preserves. We were extremely pleased with our choice of itineraries. It was a great family trip for parents and young adult "children." We highly recommend Wilderness Safaris. Jone

john Jul 17th, 2001 07:15 PM

My wife and I just got back from our Honeymoon in South Africa. We Loved it! We flew South Africian Airways told them it was our Honeymoon and they upgraded us to Business class. We started out in Capetown at the Mt Nelson Hotel. Its a place that hasnt changed for about 50 years. It was charming it retains a Colonial English Feel. They upgraded us to a suite of rooms with champagne and flowers because of the honeymoon and the fact that winter is there low season. The Mt Nelson Breakfast was the best in Africa, they had cavier, champagne and smoked salmon on the Buffet. Next we flew to Port Elizabeth to a Private game reserve called Shamwari. Also wonderful two nights was just the right amount of time. Flew back to Cape Town and stayed in the winelands for 2 nights in Franschhoek at La Quartier francais, a really nice country inn. They also greated us with champagne. Dont miss the local wineries the wine is good and cheap we shipped a case home for about $65. Next we took the Blue train to Pretoria and yes more champagne. We transfred 2 hours to Sun city Lost Palace Hotel. It was something to see but more like disney than Africa. Sun city could be anywhere in the world, but it gave us a chance to golf and have a massage. Nextwe went to Mala Mala game reserve. The Animals were great and yes we did see the Big five. Finally we flew to Joberg were we stayed the night at the grace hotel in the suburb of rosebank. The Grace was just as nice as all the other hotels and we were told it was sake to walk within a few blocks of the hotel even a night. There was a very nice shoppiung complex there called the zone... we didour last minuet shopping and took in the new Tombraider movie. The movie costs about $8 for both of us. The Grace greated us with more champagne flowers and rose petals in the shape of a heart on the bed. Looking back We can't think of a better honeymoon. The weather was in the 70s in the south and in the 80s in the north in the day. It was cool a night. You will need warm clothes including a coat and maybe a hat for the game drives a night especially if you visit Shamwari. We used trans africa safaris out of cape town. Please feel free to email me if you have any questions. <BR> <BR> <BR>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <BR>

Lisa Jul 23rd, 2001 07:39 AM

Kavey, just started reading your trip report. What a wonderful way with words you have. Looking forward to reading it slowly and carefully.

Kavey Jul 29th, 2001 11:50 AM

Lisa <BR> <BR>Just got back from SF, California, to read your lovely comment, thank you! <BR> <BR>Now I have the SF trip out of the way (went to US to meet with my sister who is half way through a year travelling and now on a plane to New Zealand) I can concentrate on writing the rest of the African trip up. <BR> <BR>It takes me a long time as I am very picky with the descriptions and I have tor eally hunt for the right word and phrase each time... <BR> <BR>THanks for the support... <BR> <BR>Kavey

Celia Jul 30th, 2001 08:04 AM

Kavey, my husband and I have been to Southern Africa 8 or 9 times, and absolutely love that part of the world. Each time we talk about going back, we say "we should go to Namibia", but so far we haven't. Your posting here has changed that! Next time we go, in 2002 or 2003, we're going to Namibia! <BR> <BR>Thanks for the push we needed. <BR> <BR>Celia

Kavey Jul 31st, 2001 12:58 PM

Celia <BR> <BR>I am THRILLED that my post has persuaded you to finally go to Namibia after years of African travel... <BR> <BR>I have spent the last two evenings working through my photos, got through 6 films now, out of 19 altogether, all these being in Namibia and they are so fabulous I want to go back. <BR> <BR>Offer me the chance (and the money) and I would go back in a moment, though realistically, it will be more like a 5 year plus gap, though as there are still so many other wonderous places to see, I have many trips planned before that. <BR> <BR>I don't think many trips could match up to this one though. <BR> <BR>If you want more individual advice or to ask specific questions (espec on the camps, I would stay in all but one again) please email me directly or post here. <BR> <BR>Direct email follows (take out the MOOs): [email protected] <BR> <BR>Cheers <BR>Kavey <BR> <BR>

Laura Aug 7th, 2001 02:56 PM

What was your experience at Chitabe...was the wildlife in abundance...particularly the cats?

Kavey Aug 8th, 2001 12:59 PM

Laura <BR> <BR>I will check my diary to be sure... <BR> <BR>I don't think we saw any cats at Chitabe. Actually, I think we did see a fleeting glimpse of a leopard but not for very long, not close up and not a photographic opportunity. <BR> <BR>We really didnt see much of anything at this camp, a few birds really and thats it. <BR> <BR>I would personally recommend in Botswana Little Mombo for game viewing, it is literally right there within a metre of the jeep. Often so close that I couldnt get a shot because I had my 100-300mm lens on and the cat/ elephant/ animal was way too close for that! It is more expensive than other camps but the guides are superb, especially B.K. who is a particularly highly thought of guide, I think he may be the Guide Manager too. <BR> <BR>Also you should try and visit somewhere like Little Vumbura for a water experience, this camp offers Mokoro (canoe) trips, the nearest I can describe it is like a bush version of a Venetian gondola ride through Nature... also flat powerboat trips, for the sunset and for fishing... <BR> <BR>A great contrast to drier Mombo, I will never forget the papyrus lined waterways... <BR> <BR>Are you planning to visit Namibia too? They make a wonderful combination and offer intense contrasts. <BR> <BR>BTW I am intending to write more of the journal up but other commitments including a trip to USA have conspired against me. <BR> <BR>Kavey <BR> <BR>PS Laura, please feel free to email, miss out commas, spaces, and Moos (in at attempt to fool the automatic gophers or bots which mine popular forums looking for valid email addresses for mailing lists). <BR> <BR>kavMOOi ta_fav elle @ MOOtalk21. com <BR> <BR>

Kavey Aug 9th, 2001 12:19 AM

Linda <BR> <BR>I looked at my journal last night and it was two Cheetah brothers we saw at Chitabe. We followed them at a real distance (binoculars) for a short while before they sat down in the tall grass and we left to continue our unsuccessful attempt to find the lions whose tracks we had been following. <BR> <BR>Chitabe was quite good for birds (not as good as Mombo), pretty good for baboon families, which we did get a little closer to, and not too bad for zebra, impala etc. <BR> <BR>We did miss a game drive at this camp, as I was unwell, so perhaps we would have seen more but I believe the other guests said all they saw on that drive was the two Cheetahs who we caught up with that afternoon anyway. <BR> <BR>The biggest advantage in Mombo was the proxomity. <BR> <BR>There are not too many jeeps in the area, but the animals are familiar with them, most cats having really grown up with the sound and sight. <BR> <BR>Therefore you can get really really close... many of my cat pictures have a piece of the jeep in shot because I didnt have a wide enough angle lens, and the animals were right up next to the (open) jeep... <BR> <BR>Excellent...

Kavey Aug 9th, 2001 12:20 AM

That last post was to Laura not Linda, sorry!

Book Chick Aug 9th, 2001 04:51 PM

Kavey, <BR>I came here specifically to read your post of your adventure in Africa. What a delight! I sensed from something you said on the European board that you were not always treated with kindness, but you obviously did not let that mar your trip & I am so happy for you & all the lucky people who're reading what you've written--including myself! <BR>BC

Kavey Aug 10th, 2001 05:09 AM

Hey Book Chick <BR> <BR>Just to clarify, in Namibia and Botswana we were treated with nothing but kindness, excellent service, friendliness, genuine warmth... <BR> <BR>It was only on a long-ago trip to Kenya that I experienced the most profound and simmering racism that I mentioned in that post on the Europe board which I think you are referring to? (Where would you not go back to?) <BR> <BR>This June 2001 holiday was one of the best trips I have ever taken... and I would go back there this very minute if I could afford to do so... (and had any leave left) <BR> <BR>If I won the lottery I would be there now!

Lynda Howland Aug 11th, 2001 12:15 PM

For anyone who is interested: last October I did a 16 day safari (camping) in Botswana for US$1600 (Drifters out of Jo'Burg), all inclusive; air fare was about $1300 from N.Y. Then we flew to Namibia and did a 10 day trip there for about $800 (Chameleon). Both were incredible trips. You can do Botswana cheaply. If anyone would like more information, please e-mail me, as I rarely review this site.

kavey Nov 1st, 2001 02:06 PM

Lynda <BR>Those sound like great trips... <BR>Did you write any trip reports when you got home which you would share? <BR>Kavey

THAVERY Nov 5th, 2001 10:38 AM

Hi Kavey, <BR> <BR>I'm planning a trip to see Victoria Falls and also stay at Chobe Chilwero in Botswana for the games drives this coming June. The package is offered through Thompsons Tours in South Africa. Have you ever heard of this company and do they have a good track record?

Kavey Nov 5th, 2001 11:39 AM

Hi there <BR> <BR>I have never heard of Thompson Tours (which is strange as I work for the UK's largest tour operator, Thomson Holidays) but we have no presence at all in Botswana or anywhere near it so I know it isn't us. <BR> <BR>Unfortunately I didn't visit the camps you mention either. <BR> <BR>Sorry not to be more helpful. <BR> <BR>What country are you based in? If it's UK I can recommend the UK travel agency we used which was Sunvil. The operator for most of our trip in Africa was Wilderness Safaris but Sunvil put the trip together and advised on where to stay and so on. <BR> <BR>Kavey

Andy Nov 6th, 2001 05:47 AM

Hi Kavey <BR> <BR>Does Big T know you're consorting with the independents???

kavey Nov 6th, 2001 07:44 AM

Hi Andy <BR> <BR>Ha ha :) <BR> <BR>No! <BR> <BR>But they don't deal with this area of Africa anyway! <BR> <BR>I would probably use my own company's trips if I went to Kenya, which we do sell, because I could use one of my twice a year discounts. <BR> <BR>But only if we offered the same accommodation etc that I had already decided on! <BR> <BR>I often do independent trips, particularly to places where Thomson don't go and also where I can gain advantage from booking independently, e.g. a driving holiday to France. <BR> <BR>Any more trip reports from namibia and botswana! <BR> <BR>kavey

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