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Sep 21st, 2003, 03:29 AM
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Liz, thank you for the special effort to prepare and share the album. My family and I enjoyed the pictures. Relived our trip through your album. Looking forward to seeing a live lilac breasted roller!! And maybe we will be so lucky to have a cheetah use our vehicle as an observation point.
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Sep 21st, 2003, 05:07 AM
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So glad you saw the album and liked it. The all important question to you is: How do my photos with the 750 compare to what you're getting. I am so glad you told me about the camera. My husband and I are soooo in love with that camera. We couldn't have done this with our SLR. For those who have SLRs, I know they are superior cameras and we have done well with ours, but ours is 15 years old and so very heavy, etc. We had to change lenses a lot too. I doubt I would have gotten the cheetahs that 'dropped in' because by the time I changed the lens it would have been over. We really liked the simplicity of the dial to take automatic and then to view them. We really could tell the good ones after seeing them on the LCD. Liz
 
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Sep 21st, 2003, 12:08 PM
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What luck to start researching a possible trip to Kenya and to find your amazing photos....and the discussion on this thread is equally as important! Would you recommend a trip to Kenya or to South Africa for a first experience?
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Sep 21st, 2003, 12:51 PM
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I'd rather not try to answer that question. Glad you liked the photos and hope it inspires you to venture into a realm that will possibly captivate you for the rest of your life. Many folks start out by travelling to East Africa because of the information thats readily available to them. Trips are often easier to work into ones budget and many sites offer very affordable trips for a first timer. www.2afrika.com gives you an opportunity to taste Africa to see if you want to invest larger amounts to venture into more of the old Africa, that is less populated with tourists. Just research and decide which appeals to you more and you will come up with what is right for you. Each of us is so different that no one can tell you which is best for you. If you're younger or part of a larger group, taking a package trip is easier. After a few trips, some of us choose to go the other route and take private safaris. Just ask away and eventually you'll know which is best. Liz
 
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Sep 21st, 2003, 01:15 PM
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Uhoh busted -

Liz is correct - can't answer that for anyone, but you're talking two different experiences with Kenya vs South Africa.

Kenya is primarily safari, though there is Mombassa and some outer islands for post-trip relaxing. While South Africa is all inclusive - cities, beach, safari, canyons, rails, etc.

So you have to ask yourself "what do I want to experience?"

Most, but not all, start with East Africa (Kenya, the original safari country) and then move on from there "once bitten".

Read as much as you can - books, websites, this board. Consider your budget, group or independent travel, hotels or lodges or tented camps, time of year (climates are different in Kenya & SA at same time of the year).

Do your research then ask away.
 
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Sep 21st, 2003, 05:33 PM
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Liz, I am very pleased with the 740. For the most part I use the auto function as that seems to do just fine. I think the two models are very comparable. I recall reading the 750 came with a better bundle and one other major difference. But, since the store where my family shopped had just the 740 we settled for it. At work I normally use a relatively old by today's standard digital camera but on a recent field trip I slipped the 740 in my chest waders and used it for fish pictures and stream habitat photos. I was simply amazed with the outcome. Main thing for me to keep in mind and maybe you already learned it having taken hundreds and hundreds of pics is to take my time and allow the automatic focus to work especially when adjusting the zoom. From the pictures you shared (even the "impala" males) I would say you did quite well! Dick
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Sep 21st, 2003, 07:47 PM
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Thanks. I only used automatic, don't know how to do anything else. We really didn't need that model, but we didn't know what all the differences meant. Nothing I actually used. I mostly kept it at full zoom. So simple to switch though. The camera, as all digitals, pauses from when you take the picture until it actually takes the picture. Sometimes the animal would turn or walk out of the frame, but we just deleted those. Generally it isn't a big deal. On the crossing of the Wildebeests, I wouldn't have gotten that one Wildie in mid jump otherwise. He wasn't jumping when I snapped it. So sometimes it worked to my advantage. The book said to shoot ahead of there the action is heading, so I did and it worked. Liz
 
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Sep 23rd, 2003, 11:01 AM
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Liz,
I've been busy planning other trips so haven't been checking this forum, but just remembered that you should be back by now and really wanted to know about your trip. How terrific that you got to see the migration in Kenya and that it was as amazing as you had hoped.

For some unknown reason, the OFOTO addresses that you and Kavey listed aren't working for me and I really do want to see the photos. I did a "copy and paste", but I get a "cannot find server" message. Has anyone else had problems?
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Sep 23rd, 2003, 11:39 AM
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Yup, its down right now. Hope you can try later. Thats the first time I've had that happen. All of ofoto seems to be down.
Okay, Evelyn, where are you off to next?
 
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Sep 23rd, 2003, 02:51 PM
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I'm glad I got an opportunity to see your pics, Liz. My DH and I were oooohing and aahhhhing for quite some time last night. We're really tempted to do a trip to Africa next year. I can't spend much time planning until our son is safe and sound out of Iraq, but that just might be happening sooner rather than later
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Sep 23rd, 2003, 04:20 PM
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Thanks for the kind comments. I hope you do get the opportunity to visit Africa because it offers so much to so many people.
My prayers are with your son. May he soon be home safe and sound. Liz
 
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Oct 3rd, 2003, 10:47 AM
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Hi Liz
I loved seeing your photos. We got back from Kenya a few days ago and were at the Governors camp for 3 days, the last day being 22nd Sept. We (very regretably) forgot our camera charger and as a result only got a limited amount of photos from the drives. Seeing your fantastic pictures has brought it all flooding back to me, (We saw what I believe was the same Cheetah and her 3 cubs kill a gazelle on our fisrt drive.)
Thanks for keeping our memories alive. It was the best holiday of my life, Kenya has something for everyone and I agree with what you said about wanting to help more. Care international do a lot of good work out there and I recommend a book by Bill Bryson called African Diary about his trip to see their work in Kenya. The charity get all the book's profits and it's a great read.
Thanks again! Sue
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Oct 3rd, 2003, 11:43 AM
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Thanks for the kind words. What a shame to forget your charger. I surely would have loaned you mine if I knew. Also we left on the 11th. Wasn't the flight a drag coming home? Looooong. I'm sure the Cheetah was the same if you were at Governors. We saw others when we were in the Mara Triangle returning from the hot air balloon drive, but Susan was the main one on the side we were on. Where all did you visit on your trip? Will you return? Liz
 
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Oct 5th, 2003, 06:56 AM
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Susan-
My photo album is now complete. When I read back on this thread, I see that you did see the album before. Somehow that slipped past me (during jet lag) I guess. When I set up the album I didn't think it mattered if folks commented or not. We'd had the trip and were satisfied with it. Both I and Kenya knew the 'affair' was over. Many signs were given to me on this trip to know it ended well for each of us. Well, anyways as folks viewed the album, I found they were completing it for us with their comments. I have the most treasured album of any trip I have ever taken. I did miss your comments not being there Susan, and I guess I came to feel you hadn't even viewed it. Silly, but I was sad until I went back and read this thread again. I saw you did see it and I simply didn't take the time to go back and review this thread for it. Your comments are very important to me, as are everyones. As I say, it is complete and I would like to take it with me forever. Thank you all good friends who helped us complete this part of our life. A friend, Liz and Max
 
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Oct 5th, 2003, 03:48 PM
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Someone asked before we left to try to post some of the meals we had at Governors. I came across my notes this evening. I will post generally what was served. Dinner was always at 8PM and that was late for us. We usually went to bed right from dinner because of the early morning wakeups. Before we left we had asked to have dinner at 7PM and we ate then. We avoided the smokers then too as smoking was allowed in the dining area and more Europeans seem to smoke than Americans. Since we were the only Americans at camp, we always had smoke in our face.
Dinner always started with a hot soup. Some of them were: Turnip soup, carrot soup with ginger, mostly cream soup of any available veggies.
The meat course consisted of Roast Leg of Lamb, Filet of Beef, Beef Tenderloin, Pork roast, Leg of Veal. The vegetarian was spaghetti bolognese, spinach ravioli, pasta w/creme sauce, stuffed peppers. Many seasonal vegetables were served. Turnips were delicious and I usually do not like them, carrots, green beans, squash and potatoes. Desserts were most delicious: passion fruit mouse (the best), strawberries with vanilla sauce (also very good). Many pies.
At lunch we had grilled pork chops, steak and kidney pie, or meat patties. Lots of salads and quiche or tarts.
Pies were made from any available fruits. For instance: Two crusted banana pie, pear pie, apple pie, papaya pie, cottage cheese pie, rhubarb pie, pineapple pie. These were amazingly delicious. All were two crusted. No meringues or creme tops. Also a fruit melange in a huge bowl. Also a wonderful crumble crust chocolate creme and banana dessert with shaved chocolate. That knocked your socks off.
We started out eating the meats and when we had such indigestion we switched to vegetarian. It was very good. The pasta with creme sauce was shells with a fettucine type sauce. The stuffed peppers were red bell peppers halved, stuffed with other veggies. The spinach ravioli also had a delightful creme sauce. We much preferred those choices. After we first ordered vegetarian I noticed they got better. Before that it mostly consisted of spaghetti bolognese.
No complaints about the food. We would have been happier eating at 6PM and sitting around the fire letting it settle before we went to bed. Any other questions, just ask. Liz
 
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Oct 7th, 2003, 07:01 PM
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Well Liz and all...I did my 1 week solo fly in safari to Kenya....all I can say is FANTASTIC! Exceeded all my expectations in every way! The hotel in Nairobi (the Intercontinental) even had a birthday cake for me upon my arrival! Samburu Intrepids Camp and Siana Springs Intrepids in Mara were awsome! I had dinner at the table next to the Princess of Thailand in Samburu! I will post a full trip report as soon as I get time. I'll try and post some photos also. Thank you ALL for your advice and counsel pretrip!
Sincerely, Peter
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