anybody still going?

Sep 27th, 2001, 06:25 AM
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i will write here to every one who want for one reason or more to make a bad pablicity to EGYPT .
why why why EGYPT i never saw any EGYPTIAN dancing in the street for what happan in the stats we are very sad for many reasons ,
# 1- 1 of each 6 EGYPTIAN is work in the tourisum industry and now they lost thier food ok.
# 2- there is about 2,000,000 EGYPTIANS in the states they are working there ,and they will be in a bad section if we did such crazy things.
# 3- we lost some EGYPTIANS in this attack they are about 265 persons so can you imagin that about 300 families in EGYPT are sad to loss thier bread winners which it means that in every part of the country is waiting to know that they lost some one or no if they lost some one whocan give them the bread?
and if no so what will happen they will leave in a very good stat if they are inolved ?
# 4 - there is no country in the whole world love the U.S.A. the whole world hating the U.S.A. gover. not the people
even you because of your interesting
and you finally say that about EGYPT because you do not like to make it a good economic country which comes from the tourism industry.
do not foreget that many EGYPTIANs being
killed by Amarican since what happen there even the Christian of them
so please please stop doing this any more or we are going to write here what are you going to do for the world because of you are very bad
finally i would like to say that Egypt is mantioned in the bible more than 360 times as the most save place choosen by jesus CHRIST to be in it for 3 years and 6 month 10 days
Sep 28th, 2001, 01:27 PM
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Don't worry Wagih. Not everyone will cancel they're trip to Egypt. We're still going in December for sure!!
Sep 28th, 2001, 06:12 PM
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We were in Egypt two years ago and felt perfectly safe. We were on a tour and in some area - Luxor - we had an armed guard and there were many armed guards in the Valley of the Kings because of the terrorist attacks there a few years prior. Several times my husband and I were on our own in Cairo and Aswan and were not threatened at all. Egyptians walking down the streets would see that we were foreigners, guessed that we were English speaking and would routinely say, "Welcome to Egypt". They were always surprised and pleased when they heard we were from U.S.

Tourism is number two in Egypt's economy and they will welcome you. You must however have the courtesy to dress conservatively. Cover your arms, your hear in a mosque, no shorts. I would not hesitate to go even now.
Oct 2nd, 2001, 09:20 AM
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This message is mostly for Jason who is also planning a trip in December....My husband and I had a trip scheduled there in December as well, and now I have heard so many conflicting things on whether to still go or not to go that I do not know what to think...Can you tell me reasons why you are still planning to go, and do you have small kids that you are leaving at home while you are gone?? Thanks for your input in advance
Oct 2nd, 2001, 03:58 PM
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I will answer your question in a manner that you may not appreciate. We plan to go to Jordan in December if they let us. However we do not have any offspring or even any small kids at home. I cannot imagine anybody going away ever under any circumstances and leaving small kids at home alone. Perhaps this is a different world today. Perhaps this answers your question
Oct 2nd, 2001, 06:19 PM
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I know that most people think that it is cruel to leave kids home alone, but it is called an "anniversary trip"? Has anyone but me ever heard of that? And I am sure that those who have, never take their kids or "offspring" with them....They will be staying with their grandparents while we would be gone, even though with all of the events going on, I doubt we still will. But the risk of having something happening to BOTH of us is why we are concerned. That is why I was wondering if anyone else in these posts that are leaving in November and December are nervous about that as we are. But, we probably will not risk it due to that fact alone...It was a nice dream while it lasted. We are like many who will not get much of a refund since the State Dept did not send a specific warning to Egypt travelers, so I feel for those people...
Oct 2nd, 2001, 11:17 PM
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We feel exactly the way you do. In a previous posting I wrote that we would wait and see re. our upcoming trip to Egypt in October. We are also leaving our son with his grandparents and given that fact we have changed our destination and decided to stay within Europe (I live in Europe).
This has nothing to do with Egypt or the Egyptians because we love that country and its people. In these circumstances we just want to be not too far from home.
Oct 4th, 2001, 05:58 AM
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As an Egyptian living in Cairo, I can assure you that it is perfectly safe around here right now. However, if you are that nervous about it, there is no point coming here and having your holiday spoiled by your worries. However the lack of State Dept warning should also be a strong indication to you that it is no more dangerous to travel around here than it is anywhere else at this point. Once again Egypt is suffering economically from a situation it has nothing to do with. And guess what, your travel operators are probably benefitting from it as they might not be refunding you, but they most probably have not paid the hotels fare yet...
Oct 4th, 2001, 06:57 AM
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Message: Speaking as a brtish person who has seen both sides of the story and lived in egypt for 20 years , i can safely assure people that being in egypt is probably safer than being somewhere like london or a big city in the usa!
the people in egypt depend heavily on tourists comming in every year, and if anything happens to alter that, they are the first to suffer.
The same thing happened when the luxor incident occured years ago, lots of people still remeber the devestating effects it had on thier lifes in egypt, and how long it took them to recover from it. I doubt anyone wants this to happen again, EVER! I can assume they will be extra gratfull for anyone visitng during the next few months, and making the effort to make a stand against the few who try to ruin it for the majority who just want to enjoy this wonderful country and meet with its lovely people.

Oct 5th, 2001, 11:24 AM
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I wanted to post a reply to "Latest Mid-east Developments," but was unable to get into that segment of it. Maybe one of them will read this. So here goes.

I was in Egypt last November and I have decided that, if our trip had been for this year instead of last, I would STILL have gone.

The Egyptians are not in this. Mubarak(sp?) has condemned the terrorist acts and has pledged his support for the U.S. I have been glued to the TV and NEVER saw Egyptians dancing in the street, just Palestinians. Now, maybe I did miss that one, but you have idiots in every country--heaven knows,we have enough over here (just read the aforementioned posting that I was trying to get into, if you don't believe me!) Timothy McVey(sp?) was born and raised in the good old U.S.A. Did we leave the country when he did his deed?

The fourth plane went down one hour's drive from my house and minutes from a close relative of mine--it could very easily have landed in my town, on my house or on her house. Should I move? Should she?

It may happen, it may not happen. It may happen here, it may happen someplace else. I might get hit by a car crossing the street in this tiny town when I leave work this afternoon. My furnace might blow up. I might be blown to bits by terrorists. Or I might NOT!

They will not affect my life in any way, except by the extra security at airports or anything that is INFLICTED on me, not on decisions I make. If we were at war with Egypt, of course I wouldn't go. Anyone would be nuts to. But we aren't.

People make me so tired. And in a couple of instances, people sent really catty replies, which is uncalled for. You shouldn't be on this website unless you're an adult.

I want to commend the people on THIS particular thread for having the courage and good sense not to let a bunch of outlaws change their plans. I know you'll all have a great time and be glad you went. The people in the "Latest Mideast Developments" thread are going to miss a wonderful country where the people go out of their way to welcome you and help you out. (And I'd like to know what that woman looks like who was accosted by the hotel employee in her room! We had no such problem anyplace!)

Sorry this is so long, but my blood was boiling.
Oct 5th, 2001, 07:25 PM
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I have to admit I was a little disturbed and saddened to see a group of Egyptians celebrating such a horrific event that happened to the U.S. I also know that this is not sentiment of the majority of Egyptians.

However, *once* the U.S. retaliates I persoanlly do not believe that being anywhere NEAR the Middle East will be particularily safe for Americans. I certainly would not want to be stranded in a country surrounded by enemies, be it other countries or fundamentalists within THAT country.

I know that a major source of income for Egypt is through tourism, I know that the Egyptian government works hard to protect tourists, but if skirmishes break out in the Middle East how safe do you think tourists will be from acts of terrorism.

I had plans to travel to Egypt next March. I am planning to postpone and wait to travel when things seem a little more stable. THIS March I'll go someplace else. I am not doing this out of fear, but rather out of common sense.

Oct 7th, 2001, 09:00 PM
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well, after today I will wait till next year.....Egypt will still be there waiting for me. Such a sorry situation for everyone.
Oct 8th, 2001, 05:31 PM
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See the first three paragraphs of the following story from yesterday's daily telegraph from the UK:

No, Patricia, maybe Egypt's "not in this", but they're surely not coming to the forefront to show their genuine support as you suggest. And there certainly have been significant anti-US sentiments expressed and now "protests".
Oct 9th, 2001, 05:37 AM
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Hey xxx, more for you:
"Mubarak Says Backs All U.S. Steps on Terrorism"

Next time, I hope you check your facts before spreading misleading information, and I hope you have the guts to give a real name and e-mail address. Otherwise, please spare us your deep insights!
Oct 11th, 2001, 02:45 PM
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Just keep making an appearance Tarek. You know it would help if you shared your opinion on things and when you know info is wrong pipe up!. I do think it is wise to leave less identifying info. Don't want to spark any slams but some of us our very concerned for your community living in U.S right now Tarek. Guess I want Arab and Muslims living here to know that.
Oct 11th, 2001, 02:51 PM
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If you live in the eastern U.S. PBS is hosting a show called frontline where they will be discussing the roots of conflict in the Middle East. 9pm EST channel 13 someone saw this on the European boad thought this was a good
Oct 15th, 2001, 04:44 AM
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Ginny, i think your point is excellent, the fact people like you are out there makes a big diffrence.
understanding the conflct, without fear or prejeduce is the key to making this whole situation work to the best. Getting worked up about it without even understanding wehre the anger is comming from is usless! please let us know how it went over there.
Oct 16th, 2001, 05:15 PM
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I have started a new post for people that are going and returning from Egypt or Jordan. This is for people that still plan to go during the remainder of this year and to provide a place to report their experiences on return. It would be nice to deal with travel information and avoid political comments. The best information that one can get is from those that go to this area and provide information on their return. I will try to keep my post on the top from time to time.

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