A cheaper plan to stop poaching

Old Nov 1st, 2007, 11:54 AM
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A cheaper plan to stop poaching

Give them jobs. Another good solution in Zambia.

http://tinyurl.com/3exjmf

Now if only some of those other parks like Kafue and LZNP could get behind programs like this. Maybe something the operators could do while they are so busy raising the rates.
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Old Nov 1st, 2007, 02:16 PM
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Rates go up because fees go up. Zam govt charging extortionist rates for some of older operators to retain their concessions....Gues what changed in the last 18 - 24 months... I wont go there.
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Old Nov 1st, 2007, 03:06 PM
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a similar plan was started in North Luangwa by Mark and Delia Owens. From what I read on their foundation's website it is still going strong even without their presence. Great idea, more need to be started.
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Old Nov 1st, 2007, 04:32 PM
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Do you have more information on these rate increases. I haven't seem anything about this yet.
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I thought the state of the USD$$$ has a part to play with the price increases?
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Old Nov 1st, 2007, 05:26 PM
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Hari,

That's one of the excuses I've heard in Bots too. Do you think rates will come down when the USD appreciates?

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Old Nov 1st, 2007, 06:05 PM
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I think the change in the dollar is a small part. Inflation on goods and fuel hasn't been that great either. The camps are usually on some lease agreement. In NLNP if memory serves, it was 5 years. And I bet they all are not up at the same time. I just wonder if the leases aren't based in dollars anyway.

Nope. I think the operators are just blowing smoke and raising rates to whatever the market will bare. I can't find anything that would prove otherwise. There are camps that don't charge anywhere near the market leaders and they aren't raising prices in multiples of hundreds of dollars.

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Old Nov 1st, 2007, 08:47 PM
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Hi John,

I don't know how the $ fares against African currencies especially major ones like the ZAR or Pula, but, i know that the Indian rupee has appreciated by about 12% vs the dollar in recent times (probably a year) and is forecast to appreciate a bit more over the next 6 months or so .....

Businesses here that depends on the export market to the USA or working with the USD have been suffering quite a bit ......

RE Bots prices, my guess is USD (definitely influential to some extent) and demand/supply too .....

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Old Nov 1st, 2007, 08:49 PM
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To answer your question ..... no, rates won't drop!
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I am sure the weak dollar has had some impact as have high oil prices. But that still doesnt explain the near doubling of prices in the past 5 odd years.

I think its a knock on effect from Wilderness Safaris policy of providing luxury and demanding high prices in the delta. After all, they pretty much control he market in the delta and are in a position to set the benchmark for others to follow.

In most western economies this could have provided a reasonably firm foundation for investigation into cartelisation and price rigging. Wonder if Botswana has the equivalent of the EU competition commission to investigate.
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sorry.. this thread's being hijacked...

One would have thought initiatives such as this would be a no-brainer..
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