2nd trip to Israel. This time I want to see Petra

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We spent two weeks in Jordan. There is so much to see. I think trying to do it in such a limited time will only be a disappointment.
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Originally Posted by MFNYC View Post
I'm having 2nd thoughts about doing this excursion given the timeframe I'm working with. It sounds like too much hassle, and travel for minimal touring time. The more research I do, the more I see how you can easily spend several days in Jordan. I think I'll focus on Israel, and spend more time at the places where I felt we didn't have enough time during our last visit (primarily Jerusalem and Tel Aviv, where we have family in both and an event to attend, as well as some touring).

Last visit I really liked Nahariya (spent an overnight and ate at our favorite restaurant of the trip there, I think called Ida). Thinking of visiting there again, and revisiting Haifa and Akko as well, maybe doing an overnight in 1 of those places.
I think this is sound. If you've never been to a Middle Eastern / Arab country, Jordan will be very interesting to you and is worth more than a whirlwind tour to Petra. Plus, since it's too late for an open jaw flight, you're wasting a substantial amount of your short trip getting to Jordan and back.

There is plenty of stuff in Israel to keep you busy, even if you've already done the basics. Re-seeing Jerusalem in more detail would be good. Whether in Jerusalem or elsewhere, you could focus on more specialized things that pique your interest that you might not have had time for the first time around (e.g., wine tour in the Golan if you like wine, visiting the Knesset / Supreme Court if you like politics, any number of ancient ruins if you like ruins, the Maktesh Ramon craters if you like landscapes/desert).

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Glad to see all your pics again sir. Amazing!

Sue has been hinting about going to see the Egyptian pyramids one day so adding Petra to that is a must.

MFNYC I hope you have a great experience in the time you have.

Larry.
Thanks for letting me know about the link .
May I hijack this thread long enough to ask where your next trip is .
You know you guys can PM each other, right? It's really not fair to the OPs to keep de-railing these Israel threads (see also Being obsessive, starting 2021 research. Basic Israel & Jordan! )

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I am not derailing anything.

I asked a question and that is hardly re-railing, and what do you mean to keep derailing.

and I asked MFNYC if I may hijack this thread just to ask a question. Let me hear from her /him and not you , okay !!

Also I do not PM anybody.

We have Moderator here, if you want their job , then please apply accordingly.

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Old Jan 9th, 2020, 04:33 PM
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We've actually been to the Knesset and a Golan winery! I am really looking forward to wandering the streets of the Old City more leisurely, and revisiting some of the sights there. A friend recommended the Bible Land Museum (I think the name is awful, sounds like a theme park). We've been to the Israel Museum and Yad Vashem, both great, may revisit if there's time.
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Originally Posted by MFNYC View Post
We've actually been to the Knesset and a Golan winery! I am really looking forward to wandering the streets of the Old City more leisurely, and revisiting some of the sights there. A friend recommended the Bible Land Museum (I think the name is awful, sounds like a theme park). We've been to the Israel Museum and Yad Vashem, both great, may revisit if there's time.
Other ideas in Jerusalem: Western Wall Tunnel Tour (they keep excavating more and more, so you'll see new stuff even if you've already been)... Temple Mount (very limited hours; research them)... Mount of Olives (for views of the Old City)... Old City ramparts walk (you can walk on top of the Old City walls for much of the perimeter, and see the Old City from below; they recently expanded the path)... several other Old City excavations/ruins (Southern Wall, City of David)... Ein Kerem (cutsey neighborhood in the outskirts of the city)... Bethlehem (seeing the Separation Wall and all the graffiti on it is amusing, too)... Supreme Court tour (it's probably Israel's most beautiful modern building)

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I asked a question and that is hardly re-railing, and what do you mean to keep derailing.


A substantial number of posts in this thread are idle chatter between you and jacketwatch, which have literally nothing to do with the OP's questions and do nothing to provide any useful information to the OP.

Also I do not PM anybody.
Evidently...

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Originally Posted by LAX_Esq View Post
Other ideas in Jerusalem: Western Wall Tunnel Tour (they keep excavating more and more, so you'll see new stuff even if you've already been)... Temple Mount (very limited hours; research them)... Mount of Olives (for views of the Old City)... Old City ramparts walk (you can walk on top of the Old City walls for much of the perimeter, and see the Old City from below; they recently expanded the path)... several other Old City excavations/ruins (Southern Wall, City of David)... Ein Kerem (cutsey neighborhood in the outskirts of the city)... Bethlehem (seeing the Separation Wall and all the graffiti on it is amusing, too)... Supreme Court tour (it's probably Israel's most beautiful modern building)



A substantial number of posts in this thread are idle chatter between you and jacketwatch, which have literally nothing to do with the OP's questions and do nothing to provide any useful information to the OP.



Evidently...
It seems to bother you that I ask questions here and there.
No one is asking you to read them.
just skim pass them if you are so bothered.

You are actually rude and bossy.
I will let the Moderators ,NOT you, tell me if I am doing something wrong.

Yoi are not the self appointed Fodorite Police that you would like to be.

HI jackwatch ....
I am saying Hi for idle chatter.

Good Night MFNYC and good luck on your Petra
trip.
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The wall graffiti in Bethlehem intrigues me. I’m a fan of street art.

is Bethlehem easy to do on our own? I see there’s public bus, or cab to border. Can we walk from border entry (we’re walkers)?

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Old Jan 9th, 2020, 07:17 PM
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Just found this, pretty much answers my questions re Bethlehem and graffiti
https://www.suitcaseandi.com/banksy-...?cn-reloaded=1
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Originally Posted by MFNYC View Post
The wall graffiti in Bethlehem intrigues me. I’m a fan of street art.

is Bethlehem easy to do on our own? I see there’s public bus, or cab to border. Can we walk from border entry (we’re walkers)?
Yeah, very easy on your own. Bus or cab to checkpoint, as you say. It's a 15-20 min walk to the church, and the walk passes by more of the wall (more street art), some good landscapes of the hills, and then through the outdoor market. Bring your passport and blue entry card
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blue entry card
I know about the passport, but what is the blue entry card?
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I know about the passport, but what is the blue entry card?
it's the little slip of paper they give you when you arrive that's essentially your "visa." Looks like this:

2nd trip to Israel.  This time I want to see Petra-img_20180228_154814-e1533404897625.jpg

It's not really a visa; it's an entry card. But it shows the authorities quickly that you're a tourist.
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Isn't that what they give you instead of a stamp in your passport so that your entry to Israel isn't obvious to certain other countries?
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Isn't that what they give you instead of a stamp in your passport so that your entry to Israel isn't obvious to certain other countries?
Yep
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[QUOTE=Percy;17043196]It seems to bother you that I ask questions here and there.
No one is asking you to read them.
just skim pass them if you are so bothered.

You are actually rude and bossy.
I will let the Moderators ,NOT you, tell me if I am doing something wrong.

Yoi are not the self appointed Fodorite Police that you would like to be.

HI jackwatch ....
I am saying Hi for idle chatter.

Good Night MFNYC and good luck on your Petra
trip.[/QUOTE
Well said Percy.
Some people. Sigh.
These silly criticisms highjack the thread.
OP all the best. You deserve better.
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It seems to bother you that I ask questions here and there.
No one is asking you to read them.
just skim pass them if you are so bothered.

You are actually rude and bossy.
I will let the Moderators ,NOT you, tell me if I am doing something wrong.

Yoi are not the self appointed Fodorite Police that you would like to be.

HI jackwatch ....
I am saying Hi for idle chatter.

Good Night MFNYC and good luck on your Petra
trip.
Well said Percy.
Some people. Sigh.
These silly criticisms highjack the thread.
OP all the best. You deserve better.
Anyone reading this thread can see who has provided extensive substantive info that helps the OP plan his trip, and who has done nothing but derail this thread in lieu of providing a single piece of information in response to any of the OP's question. Some people. Sigh.
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[QUOTE=Percy;17042897]
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Glad to see all your pics again sir. Amazing!

Sue has been hinting about going to see the Egyptian pyramids one day so adding Petra to that is a must.

MFNYC I hope you have a great experience in the time you have.

Larry.[/QUOTE

Thanks for letting me know about the link .
May I hijack this thread long enough to ask where your next trip is .
Forgot to answer.
We leave for Delhi in around 10 days, stay there 4 days, fly to Dubai for 5 days, take a 7 day cruise in the gulf, back to Delhi for a few more days and then home.
OK back to the OP. Again all the best!
Pictures if you please.

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