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1st time to Africa: Kenya + Tanzania OR Botswana+SouthAfrica


May 5th, 2012, 02:22 AM
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I would definitely recommend East Africa i.e. Kenya and Tanzania then finish off by visiting Zanzibar. It is a famous destination(island) for honeymooners.You could do 1week in each country starting off in Kenya,Tanzania then finally in Zanzibar.
DAY1:The slopes of Mount Kenya
DAY2:North to Samburu
DAY3n safari in Shaba
DAY4:To Lake Nakuru
DAY5&6:To the Masai Mara
DAY7:Up the Rift Valley to Nairobi
In Tanzania visit Tangire National Park,L.Manyara,Ngororo Crater,Serengeti National Park,then en-route to Zanzibar for a perfect Beach gateaway!

And also;
1)Mosquitos are not an issue in East Africa. All lodges and hotels manage this by using mosquito repellants in the room and also nets. Make sure you get a yellow fever injection.
2)More animals will be seen in Kenya/Tanzania(Maasai Mara and Serengeti) due to the famous wildebeest migration. You will be able to see the big five.
3)Visit East Africa to experience luxury eco-tourism lodges as well as breathtaking wildlife sceneries.
4)Although climate/weather is unpredictable, In East Africa Kenya is generally warm. You will have to enjoy the sun at that time.

Well I cannot comment on that because I have never been. All I know in Kenya/Tanzania tourists use Land cruisers for their safaris hence very comfortable. You can take lovely photos by using these means.I would recommend Uniglobe speedbird Safaris as the professional outfitter for your trip.

Enjoy your honeymoon!!!
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May 5th, 2012, 07:52 AM
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Those smiley codes can pop up in surprising places. A cow safari in Shaba is not the suggestion in the above post, I'm certain.

To visit the above destinations (all worthwhile), then do the Tanzania component, and also include Rwanda for gorillas per your original request, I believe you would want 21 days in Africa. Otherwise you'll just be rushing around on the highways for 4-6+ hours at a time along with a plane or two.

Samburu deserves at least 2 nights on its own.
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May 5th, 2012, 12:20 PM
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Sorry about the crabby post above. I'm in finals season and I'm freaking out. I come here for fun and wind up being b*tchy. My mom wants to return to Botswana, but the prices have become prohibitive. We were at Vumbura Plains in 2006, and it's just too over the top for me. The "tents" are over 1000 sq ft, and the private outdoor space is at least as big. One of the best parts of a vacation (for me at least) is meeting people. With that kind of personal space, private pool included, makes it a private experience. Our last trip was all about meeting people - because the camps were geared toward the guests hanging out together. (maybe because drinks are not included in the rate ). Rack rates, high season - VP $1800 pppn, Mombo $2200. Between the price and opulent tents, it's just not my cup of tea. Even Banoka is $500. Mom is 83 - I'll try to get her to Mashatu!! (my fave so far). Sounds like a fantastic graduation gift, no?
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May 5th, 2012, 06:32 PM
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I didn't take your post as crabby, Christabir, just a comentary on prices that are well over $1K per person per night. Mombo is up to $2K now?

Good luck with finals.
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May 5th, 2012, 07:42 PM
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Once again I want to thankyou all for your help.
I didn't take your post as crabby either Christabir, in fact it was very helpful!
All of your advice has been helpful some way or another.

Atrevelynn your post were specially good for us, very enlighting!

We haven't decided yet on our destination, but I think we are bending more towards Botswana and South África...we'll let you know as soon as we hace a final decision!

With Sdb2 link one more ??? came to my head!! Important one... VISIBILITY
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May 5th, 2012, 07:44 PM
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and mosquitos are not a big issue but wat about the tall grasses the link talks about?
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May 5th, 2012, 07:53 PM
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Yes, atravelynn. It looks like classic camps are $1200, premiums are $1800, with Adu and Mombo in their own league. Low season has almost reasonable rates though!! I saw a horseback camp that looks way too fun. Rack rates available for most popular camps - change country by clicking on menu near top. Good for reference, but there are lots of specials.


I am looking at a quick trip with mom. Mashatu Main and somewhere in Sabi Sand. 8-9 nights. She's not as keen to stay in the affordable places I've been going lately. Maybe Kings. Not sure about Mala Mala, but since there is an available charter, might be the best option for my mom. Transfers might be tiring for her. I'll have to look into charters in/out Polokwane.
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May 5th, 2012, 08:05 PM
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Atravelynn I studied the web pages you sent me, The animal/where chart us grrrreat! But it doesn't talk about giraffes or zebras... Are those everywhere?
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In the low or Green season when it is wet the grass will be tall, which in turn makes it more difficult to spot game. But the guides are terrific at spotting animals: they not only look for their target (say you were interested in seeing a lion), they watch the skies to see what vultures are doing (indicating perhaps a carcass), and they watch the movement of prey (which might be trying to elude a predator). They're only too happy to have you help them too.

It's easier to show you what the grass may look like with a couple pictures. Below are links to two shots, both taken in Botswana (the description pic for the male says SA but that's incorrect) toward the end of the green season. But the point is that you'll still see plenty.



Here's another link to a detailed trip report to Botswana. As the poster points out, you save LOTS of money going during the Green season. Actually, reading the report has me thinking of going back then too.

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